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scompay Offline
#1 Posted:
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To crack down on gays in the Navy, FDR created a special unit that performed oral sex on men in order to out the gay ones


It's incredibly ironic, but prior to his presidency, FDR signed off on a secret Navy unit to seek out homosexuals. In 1919, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the assistant secretary of the Navy.

While the Navy secretary was in Europe, FDR signed off on an undercover Navy unit to investigate homosexual acts within the military.

It later became known as the Newport Scandal. Newport, Rhode Island’s Naval Base had numerous complaints of sexual solicitation by males around the base.

So, FDR’s Navy unit sought to entrap these men. Surprisingly, the unit was ordered to perform oral sex on suspected homosexuals on base, including a clergyman! Once the story broke, FDR claimed memory lapse and never admitted to signing off on the operation.

Surprisingly, this could have completely destroyed FDRs political career. Many people credit his later illness that left him paralyzed as the reason his career did not spiral down. FDR, of course, later went on to become the president of the US.
scompay Offline
#2 Posted:
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God damn,
It must have really sucked to be in that regiment that was ordered to blow a yard full of sailors to find out who was gay. LMFAO.
scompay Offline
#3 Posted:
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I can just see the grandkids inquiring 'Did they ever make any movies about your unit'
Special Unit Grandpa 'No grandpa had to do some undercover work that hopefully is still classified'
LOL
bloody spaniard Offline
#4 Posted:
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Holy mother of poopdeck pappy!! How did you find this story????
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#5 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Holy mother of poopdeck pappy!! How did you find this story????



His grandpa told him about it... Mellow
scompay Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Holy mother of poopdeck pappy!! How did you find this story????


What?? You aint ever heard of the Newport scandal?
Its legendary in the hall of fame of what were we thinking museum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Sex_Scandal
PorknBeans Offline
#7 Posted:
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homos pass down family stories just like everybody else
scompay Offline
#8 Posted:
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Here is another mindblower.
They did shorthand in the navy to determine if there were any gays onboard. Shorthand was checking a man' sausage and putting a finger in his bottom to see if he was aroused- thereby gay. What they never saw coming was the fact that folks doing the inspections had the biggest hard ons.
bloody spaniard Offline
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check please
no tip either Anxious
scompay Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
check please
no tip either Anxious

I know what you mean, it was terrible that everyone had to go through that just for a handful.
Then again there were some who stood in line twice.
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Sorry, had to look it up because I found it hard to believe. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. With governments I should never assume anything. The only comment I can think of is how bizarre.
scompay Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
Sorry, had to look it up because I found it hard to believe. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. With governments I should never assume anything. The only comment I can think of is how bizarre.


I was shocked that there were gays in the navy.

Thank you for at least looking into it. Most will argue and insult rather than accept the controversial.

What I find bizarre is that they asked one group of navy guys to go blow another, to see who was gay, and they only prosecuted one half.

It answers the age old question seafarers have, if you were commanded to blow, does it make you gay.
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Shouldn't it be "Naval" . . . ?
scompay Offline
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jetblasted wrote:
Shouldn't it be "Naval" . . . ?


LOL., no my astute vigilant brother. Navel team is when a group of men are sent in to blow another group of men to see if either of them are gay. Collectively they are referred to as Navy. Think of that song by the Village People...no not YMCA thats a whole nuther can of worms.
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#15 Posted:
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In case you doubt it.

Roosevelt's embarrassment

The Providence Journal, under publisher John R. Rathom, covered the trial proceedings daily, often with a critical eye toward the prosecution’s case. On January 8, 1920, Rev. Samuel Neal Kent, an Episcopal clergyman, was found innocent on all charges. In his charge to the jury in that case, the judge was at pains to discredit the witnesses who described their participation in illicit sexual acts. He reasoned that since no military or governmental authority could legitimately order them to participate in such acts against their will, they were either willing participants whose complaints were groundless or they were acting under the compulsion of unlawful commands on the part of their superiors. His analysis fueled opposition in Newport's religious community.

Within days, a committee of Newport clergymen drafted a lengthy letter to President Woodrow Wilson denouncing the Navy’s activities in Newport, specifically the "deleterious and vicious methods" used, including keeping those charged confined for months without trial. Among the signers were Rev. William Safford Jones of Channing Church, Rev. J. Howard Deming, Rev. Everett P. Smith of St. Mary's Church, Portsmouth, and Rev. Richard Arnold Greene of Newport. The Providence Journal published the letter. It put the Navy on the defensive and named Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels and Roosevelt. Assistant Secretary Roosevelt angrily charged that press coverage like Rathom's would damage the Navy's reputation to the point that parents would not allow their sons to enlist. Also at issue, however, were the methods employed in the investigation. Rathom and Roosevelt had a "tart exchange of telegrams" disputing whether anyone in the naval hierarchy in Washington had supervised the investigation closely or authorized the actual participation of investigators in illicit acts.[1][2]

While investigations dragged, Roosevelt resigned from his position as Assistant Secretary of the Navy in July 1920 when he accepted the Democratic Party's nomination for Vice President. He and the Presidential candidate James M. Cox were on the losing end of Warren Harding's landslide victory for the Republicans.

On July 19, 1921, a subcommittee of the Senate Committee on Naval Affairs denounced both Daniels and Roosevelt for the methods used in the Newport investigations. The New York Times reported that most of the details of the affair were "of an unprintable nature," but explained that the committee believed that Daniels and Roosevelt knew that "enlisted men of the navy were used as participants in immoral practices for the purpose of obtaining evidence." The committee report declared that using enlisted men in this way "violated the code of the American citizen and ignored the rights of every American boy who enlisted in the navy to fight for his country." The committee report also made public the earlier determination of a naval court-martial. To that court's assessment that Roosevelt's behavior was "unfortunate and ill-advised", the committee added "reprehensible." Daniels' rejection of the court's judgment, the committee declared, "is to be severely condemned."[3][4]

Given how difficult all concerned found discussing the details of the crimes at issue, their language characterizes the questionable activities repeatedly without ever specifying the actions themselves. They refer to a "lack of moral perspective" and invoked the youth of the navy personnel: "Conduct of a character at which seasoned veterans of the service would have shuddered was practically forced upon boys." Their most explicit description said that the navy personnel allowed "to be performed upon them immoral acts." And the committee wrote that for Daniels and Roosevelt to allow personnel to be placed in a position where these acts were even liable to occur, was "a deplorable, disgraceful, and most unnatural proceeding." Finally, the committee acknowledged that naval officials were facing a serious problem in Newport and it denounced "immoral conditions" that were "a menace to both the health and the morale of the men in the naval training station."

Roosevelt rejected the report, noting that the subcommittee's two Republican members had condemned him while the one Democrat issued a minority report. He contested many details and interpretations in the committee's report, then went on the attack: "This business of using the navy as a football of politics has got to stop." He had nothing to say about the court-martial's assessment.

Any damage to Roosevelt's political prospects paled when he was stricken with a paralytic illness while vacationing in August 1921
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#16 Posted:
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ironic that had he become vice president, he would have served under Cox.
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scompay wrote:
LOL., no my astute vigilant brother. Navel team is when a group of men are sent in to blow another group of men to see if either of them are gay. Collectively they are referred to as Navy. Think of that song by the Village People...no not YMCA thats a whole nuther can of worms.


Now we know why you have disgust for pics of Hot young Broads,,,

You are disturbingly up on the Queer stuff,,,


wheel,,
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted:
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scompay joined the navy because he figured he could ride something long, hard and full of seamen...


tailgater Offline
#19 Posted:
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Or maybe he simply joined with the hopes of being honorably discharged.

scompay Offline
#20 Posted:
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Jet I was not entirely content with my answer.
A naval exercise is when you send a bunch of sailors out to sea....and they have to go without having sex for months
A navel exercise is when you send a bunch of sailors to blow the other half...to see if a there are any straight ones.
MACS Offline
#21 Posted:
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scompay wrote:
I was shocked that there were gays in the navy.

Thank you for at least looking into it. Most will argue and insult rather than accept the controversial.

What I find bizarre is that they asked one group of navy guys to go blow another, to see who was gay, and they only prosecuted one half.

It answers the age old question seafarers have, if you were commanded to blow, does it make you gay.


Not gay unless you volunteer to go in the barrel.

Derp.
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