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Palin - Proved Correct...AGAIN!
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DrMaddVibe Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 4:29 PM EST
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Palin on Ukraine: I told you so

Sarah Palin may be having a bragging rights moment.

In 2008, when she was the GOP vice presidential nominee, Palin questioned in a speech whether then-Sen. Barack Obama would have the foreign policy credentials to handle a scenario in which Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.

"After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence – the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next," she said in Reno, Nevada on October 21, 2008.

The former Alaska governor was happy to highlight her prediction on Friday and scold those who criticized her 2008 comments.

"Yes, I could see this one from Alaska," she said on Facebook. That remark was a reference to a 2008 interview in which Palin argued that Alaska's proximity to Russia helped boost her foreign policy experience.

Saturday Night Live parodied her remarks in a now-famous sketch with Tina Fey, who played Palin on the show, saying "I can see Russia from my house."

On Facebook, Palin continued to explain how she anticipated a growing crisis between Russia and Ukraine, where there has now been an uncontested arrival of Russian military forces by air at a Russian base in Ukraine's Crimea region. They are believed to be Russian land forces, according to a U.S. assessment.

Political tension grows in Ukraine's Crimea region

"I'm usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate prediction being derided as 'an extremely far-fetched scenario' by the 'high-brow' Foreign Policy magazine."

In October 2008, Foreign Policy labeled Palin's prediction as "strange."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/28/palin-on-ukraine-i-told-you-so/


Mr. Hopey Changey was an easy read for those paying attention. For those that thought he was actually going to deliver...you should be caned.
TMCTLT Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 4:35 PM EST
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I said it then and I'll say it now, I'd have given her my vote over Barry.....@ least she had some experience and a set of BALLS something he lacks on both fronts.
bloody spaniard Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 4:39 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
I said it then and I'll say it now, I'd have given her my vote over Barry.....@ least she had some experience and a set of BALLS something he lacks on both fronts.

I would have as well but couldn't pull down the crank on her nutbag of a skeezy running mate.


I'm over her now though. We need much better than a spunky winker to get us through this mess...
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 5:45 PM EST
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I might be real dumb, but I don't see what she says Obama should be doing, or even what she would be doing, or what anyone should be doing.

Was she saying 6 years ago that he wouldn't have the balls to go after Russia with U.S. Military? Or that he should? Or that she would?

I'm not supporting him or her when I ask...what American born person currently old enough to be POTUS has the foreign policy credentials to know exactly what to do about Russia invading Ukraine 6 years later? I can't think of one politician from any party that I'd have faith in being ready with the answers to this recent unpredictable chain of events.

Did she or anyone know the government would be toppled, prompting Russia to invade? For what reason could anyone have been expecting this invasion back then or even a few months ago? How could any Western leader be prepared for this moment? I wouldn't expect Obama, Palin, McCain, Romney or anyone to have this clairvoyance.

I don't get this story from the original comments to the ones today.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 8:51 PM EST
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Frank its the 3am phone call.

As a leader you have to think of every scenario. To act after an event is reactionary. Being able to think 3 steps ahead is a leadership.

She has the experience. She's a leader. She's bold enough to actually act without a script and when you're able to see the events after they were played out...almost perfectly. ..you're able to see the chess game afoot. She was the best of the four running and the reason why I even voted for grandpa tumorhead. He was outclassed, outspoken, outflanked by a governor with executive experience. The other 3 have none. 2 of them despite their title still don't. The other 3rd had sour grapes in his mouth.

The 2008 election was a wake-up call. America wanted the free stuff and a promise that there was hope and change on the horizon. Leadership doesn't promise a thing. It leads. When you see it you just know.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 8:58 PM EST
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I highly encourage anyone to getting to YouTube and listen to her acceptance speech for VP on the GOP ticket.

Its like a fortune cookie of correctness.
frankj1 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Mar 1 2014, 11:36 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Frank its the 3am phone call.

As a leader you have to think of every scenario. To act after an event is reactionary. Being able to think 3 steps ahead is a leadership.

She has the experience. She's a leader. She's bold enough to actually act without a script and when you're able to see the events after they were played out...almost perfectly. ..you're able to see the chess game afoot. She was the best of the four running and the reason why I even voted for grandpa tumorhead. He was outclassed, outspoken, outflanked by a governor with executive experience. The other 3 have none. 2 of them despite their title still don't. The other 3rd had sour grapes in his mouth.

The 2008 election was a wake-up call. America wanted the free stuff and a promise that there was hope and change on the horizon. Leadership doesn't promise a thing. It leads. When you see it you just know.

Doc, I understand how Americans feel about our current (lack of) leadership, but I am not clear on what she feels should be our reaction to the Russian invasion, and what are people agreeing with her about beyond dissatisfaction with Obama's response. What would be her response?

HD correctly pointed out that the situation is comparable to Russia getting all pissy at us if we invaded our neighbor. But what exactly is Palin saying the proper moves should be?

I don't see anything on her resume with this type of experience, no previous President had this type of experience either when sitting in a state elected position before becoming Prez...maybe a couple who had been Generals in times of war, but even they made mistakes.

edit; Hd's comments were made on a different Ukraine thread
DrMaddVibe Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 11:09 AM EST
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As governor of Alaska she was privileged to military briefings regarding Russia.

Check it out. Its not me making up hopey changey stuff. She was the most uniquely qualified person to hold office instead we have the Kenyan King & Plugs O'Biden.
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 12:27 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
As governor of Alaska she was privileged to military briefings regarding Russia.

Check it out. Its not me making up hopey changey stuff. She was the most uniquely qualified person to hold office instead we have the Kenyan King & Plugs O'Biden.

I don't know specifics about her governance other than she was a pragmatic, successful governor generally beloved by her state. IMHO, I agree, she would have had no problems doing a better job than the current comedy team we have in the White House. That's not saying much however. Like Obama, she is a mental lightweight & will never get a chance again after been ravaged by the media.

Hillary vs Jeb in 2016
the dynasties continue
frankj1 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 1:05 PM EST
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I'm not reliving the election choices, though. Lord knows we have enough posts about that. But the topic of this thread makes me want to know what she thinks Obama should be doing about Russia invading Ukraine, regardless of her briefings as governor 6/8years ago.

Biden and Kerry likely had much more info than any governor and yet no one sees this as an edge today. I just question what she thinks should be done, and I can't get an answer from her. maybe it would be brilliant...can't tell as yet.
Buckwheat Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 1:37 PM EST
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She quit Alaska. What makes you think she wouldn't do the same if she was VP? I really didn't care for her then or now. Not a fan of Obama. But she isn't the answer. Rand Paul would get my vote over her.
Gene363 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 1:44 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
She quit Alaska. What makes you think she wouldn't do the same if she was VP? I really didn't care for her then or now. Not a fan of Obama. But she isn't the answer. Rand Paul would get my vote over her.


+1 Applause Applause Applause
bloody spaniard Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 1:47 PM EST
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Who cares what Palin has to say. She's a chatty cathy with memorized talking points. We're not talking Nixonian intellect here. LOL
Same thing with Biden, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, and gang. Just self-serving apparaitchik functionaries. You scratch the veneer & there's bone (in other words no meat/substance). When are we going to learn? LOL (some more)
bloody spaniard Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Mar 2 2014, 1:50 PM EST
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Rand Paul will NEVER get the nomination. He's just been delegated a Steppin' Fechit pot stirrer by Republican hierarchy.
smokeeman Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Mar 3 2014, 4:44 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I highly encourage anyone to getting to YouTube and listen to her acceptance speech for VP on the GOP ticket.

Its like a fortune cookie of correctness.


And you can add "in bed" at the end of each of her sentences.
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