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Do we really want our politicians to do nothing?
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Buckwheat Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 10:28 AM EST
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The american public appear to like their representatives to do little in the way of actually trying to solving any problems in our country. Based upon my limited observations of our elected representatives; anything that they actually do in passing laws polarizes and alienates at least half of their electorate that they represent.

So is it better to have a "do nothing rep" over a "do something (possibly wrong) rep"? I recall that I read an Op-Ed piece on McCain saying that he couldn't get elected president because he had worked on too many pieces of legislation prior to running for President and that this encumbered him with too much political baggage.
scompay Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 10:39 AM EST
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You have an excellent point.
This is going to be the outcome of our polarization.
Now-the only way anybody gets elected is if they have zero credentials and skeletons.
You know where the rot started- when we went after Clinton for what now the world looks at as a joke.

Romney too was a great guy- dint stand a chance against these vile tea party sonsabitches. They want a Kenyan in there so that they can bellyache. Note, if things actually went their way, there would be no tea party because there would be nothing to bitch about. Its the same reason a dog never catches the school bus, only barks at it.
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 10:43 AM EST
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poor puppy-dog... Sad
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 10:50 AM EST
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Buckwheat I think alot of Americans see selective enforcement and blatant disgregaurd of written law with no consequence. When that happens how much faith can citizens have in NEW Laws?

Yeah part of this is polarization, but the guilty parties are the hands at the throws of power that levers.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 10:58 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
The american public appear to like their representatives to do little in the way of actually trying to solving any problems in our country. Based upon my limited observations of our elected representatives; anything that they actually do in passing laws polarizes and alienates at least half of their electorate that they represent.

So is it better to have a "do nothing rep" over a "do something (possibly wrong) rep"? I recall that I read an Op-Ed piece on McCain saying that he couldn't get elected president because he had worked on too many pieces of legislation prior to running for President and that this encumbered him with too much political baggage.


I'm guessing the fact that he has never found a war that he didn't like, the fact that he doesn't have a vision, the fact that pretty much everyone in DC, including those who would be his handlers thinks he's the biggest a**hole they've met; or the fact that he comes off as phony as his facelift had something to do with it.

There's more, but isn't that enough???
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 11:06 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Buckwheat I think alot of Americans see selective enforcement and blatant disgregaurd of written law with no consequence. When that happens how much faith can citizens have in NEW Laws?

Yeah part of this is polarization, but the guilty parties are the hands at the throws of power that levers.


To be fair, most americans want "selective enforcement" of laws themselves. Human nature... most people seem happiest when laws only apply to people other than themselves and belonging to groups they don't identify with.

(Not a political statement. Just pointing out that everyone's guilty on that count)
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 11:07 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:

There's more, but isn't that enough???


I heard he kicks puppies too.
Abrignac Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 11:32 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I heard he kicks puppies too.



There ya go. I knew he was a scumbag.
Buckwheat Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 11:48 AM EST
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I wasn't really thinking that much about Obama when I posted this question. I was thinking of Kentucky's senator before Rand Paul (i.e. Jim Bunning). Bunning was an empty suit in congress if there ever was one. He didn't sponsor or co-sponsor any substitutive piece of legislation during his terms and people here thought the world of him. Hell he didn't even vote very often unless it was along struck party lines (which I think is one of the things that does absolutely no good for us). Obama didn't learn from Hillary trying to fix our healthcare system back in the day and it was smacked down like ****mbe Mutombo blocking shots in insurance commercials. Obama could've just passed this problem down the line like so many before him. He just couldn't keep away from the third rail. Oh well. Same chit different day.
gryphonms Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 11:48 AM EST
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I want a politician who follows though on campaign promises. I know this is not likely, but you did ask what we want.
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 12:42 PM EST
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Buckwheat fair point. But had the legislation and implementation not been so partisan there would be less resistance. Pesky tea partiers only seeing black and white constitutional law.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:04 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
You have an excellent point.
This is going to be the outcome of our polarization.
Now-the only way anybody gets elected is if they have zero credentials and skeletons.
You know where the rot started- when we went after Clinton for what now the world looks at as a joke.

Romney too was a great guy- dint stand a chance against these vile tea party sonsabitches. They want a Kenyan in there so that they can bellyache. Note, if things actually went their way, there would be no tea party because there would be nothing to bitch about. Its the same reason a dog never catches the school bus, only barks at it.


You truly are full of crap. I thought you might be a smart guy, just a little polarizing, but no, I truly think you ARE Bill Maher. I'm sure you'll wear the label proudly.

The left calls the rights viewpoints polarization. Theirs are called "reaching across the aisle", though they don't, and won't, and have no intentions of doing so, and state so publicly.

Romney didn't stand a chance against a vile, lying media owned by socialists. That and a rigged election. Just like the one before it, and before it...

Now, you think you can peg Hussein Obama on the teaparty!! That's rich right there!! Good luck with that - but hey, I guess if it helps you sleep at night, right? Ends justify the means, right?

Oh, and buy a book, it all went downhill Loooong before Clintax - long before. It musta been hard to watch it on TV after voting for him for your first time voting, huh? Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan


Bitter Klinger Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:06 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Buckwheat fair point. But had the legislation and implementation not been so partisan there would be less resistance. Pesky tea partiers only seeing black and white constitutional law.


BAZINGA! There it is, right there. We're from the left, and were here to tell you whats best for you, whether you know it or not.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:09 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Buckwheat fair point. But had the legislation and implementation not been so partisan there would be less resistance. Pesky tea partiers only seeing black and white constitutional law.


Not entirely, but there are meanings to words. I think they wrote the words to prevent any alterations. That was the point of choosing them carefully.
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#15 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:13 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I wasn't really thinking that much about Obama when I posted this question. I was thinking of Kentucky's senator before Rand Paul (i.e. Jim Bunning). Bunning was an empty suit in congress if there ever was one. He didn't sponsor or co-sponsor any substitutive piece of legislation during his terms and people here thought the world of him. Hell he didn't even vote very often unless it was along struck party lines (which I think is one of the things that does absolutely no good for us). Obama didn't learn from Hillary trying to fix our healthcare system back in the day and it was smacked down like ****mbe Mutombo blocking shots in insurance commercials. Obama could've just passed this problem down the line like so many before him. He just couldn't keep away from the third rail. Oh well. Same chit different day.


I agree.

Politicians are like underwear, best changed often & for the same reasons.
Buckwheat Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:14 PM EST
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Klinger lately you have been assuming that you are older and wiser than anyone else here. You remind me of Fredo in the Godfather II.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:23 PM EST
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I don't assume Buckwheat, I only state my opinion and try to base it on what I perceive the facts to be. I'm actually happy there are some opposing viewpoints, but if I cant find facts to back what I read, I call it out.

Maybe if more people stood up and tossed a B/S flag once in a while we'd all be better off. Instead I feel like too often, we line up like sheep, on our assumed sides, and tow the line. I'm guilty of it myself.

Guess who I'm voting for next election? The guy who isn't the incumbent, all the way down.

We're not changing our underwear frequently enough, and its starting to stink.
gryphonms Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:25 PM EST
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^+1 I have been voting that way for some time.
Buckwheat Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 1:36 PM EST
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Bitter Klinger wrote:
I don't assume Buckwheat, I only state my opinion and try to base it on what I perceive the facts to be. I'm actually happy there are some opposing viewpoints, but if I cant find facts to back what I read, I call it out.

Maybe if more people stood up and tossed a B/S flag once in a while we'd all be better off. Instead I feel like too often, we line up like sheep, on our assumed sides, and tow the line. I'm guilty of it myself.

Guess who I'm voting for next election? The guy who isn't the incumbent, all the way down.

We're not changing our underwear frequently enough, and its starting to stink.


"... Klinger. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!" Sarcasm
teedubbya Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:03 PM EST
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I must have missed all the facts thrown out there
gryphonms Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:08 PM EST
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Lots of stuff being thrown here, including some facts.
victor809 Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:14 PM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Lots of stuff being thrown here, including some facts.


This is cbid. Facts are the last thing to be mentioned.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:22 PM EST
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Victor, without your snopes link nobody takes you seriously.
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:26 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Victor, without your snopes link nobody takes you seriously.


Sorry... let me rephrase that then.

This is cbid. Facts are the last thing to be mentioned.
www.snopes.com/politics/cbid/cbid-posters-cant-find-facts-if-they-were-stuffed-up-their-butt-like-a-cucumber.asp
teedubbya Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:32 PM EST
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hey.... I just **** out a huge fact
Gene363 Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 2:55 PM EST
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Voters live in dreamland where they believe politicians run to represent the voters and everything is free or paid for by others.

Gridlock is the best thing we can hope for until a meteor strikes DC during the state of the union address.
Abrignac Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Sorry... let me rephrase that then.

This is cbid. Facts are the last thing to be mentioned.
www.snopes.com/politics/cbid/cbid-posters-cant-find-facts-if-they-were-stuffed-up-their-butt-like-a-cucumber.asp



Ughhhh.....

Quote:
I can't find the page you're looking for.
It was probably a page about something really interesting,
but the URL you entered doesn't point to anything on this site.
Might I recommend you try the search engine at http://www.snopes.com/search to help you locate the item you want?
You really should try it.
I have lots of great stories to tell you about vanishing hitchhikers
and bloody hooks
and exploding whales
and glurge
and gun-toting grannies
and hairy-armed hitchhikers
and murdered roommates._
Buckwheat Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:01 PM EST
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"Never let the facts get in the way of a good story." - Mark Twain Beer
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:17 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Ughhhh.....




Dude... the page must have been taken down. The NSA doesn't want you to know the truth.
gryphonms Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:17 PM EST
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Never said many facts.
Abrignac Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:26 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Dude... the page must have been taken down. The NSA doesn't want you to know the truth.


Naw, its hosted on the Obamacare web server.
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:29 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Naw, its hosted on the Obamacare web server.


Makes sense.
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 4:12 PM EST
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98.2% of the time
Buckwheat Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 9:20 PM EST
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Works 98.2% of the time, 100% of the time.
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