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teedubbya Offline
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Who is the worst president since WWII ?

Posted by
CNN Political Editor Paul Steinhauser
(CNN) - President Barack Obama tops the list of the worst presidents since World War Two, according to a new national poll.

And the survey, released Wednesday by Quinnipiac University, also indicates that a plurality of voters nationwide say in hindsight that the country would be better off if Mitt Romney had won the 2012 presidential election.


Thirty-three percent of people questioned in the poll say that Obama is the worst president since the Second World War, with 28% saying George W. Bush was the worst. Thirteen percent picked Richard Nixon, with 8% naming Jimmy Carter.

"Over the span of 69 years of American history and 12 presidencies, President Barack Obama finds himself with President George W. Bush at the bottom of the popularity barrel," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

It's important to note that Obama and Bush, his predecessor in the White House, are more in the public conscious than previous presidents, and that both have governed during a time of bitter partisanship that's made compromise between the two major political parties extremely difficult. When Quinnipiac last asked the question, in 2006, Bush topped the list, with 34% saying he was the nation's worst president.

According to the poll, Ronald Reagan (at 35%) tops the list of the best president since WWII, with 18% saying Bill Clinton was best, followed by John F. Kennedy at 15% and Obama at 8%.

Voters are divided on whether Obama's been a better president than his predecessor, with 39% saying he's better than Bush and 40% saying he's worse. No surprise, there's a wide partisan divide on this question.

Bush left office in January 2009 with very low poll numbers. But according to a recent CNN/ORC International survey, his favorable rating now stands at 46%, up 11 percentage points over the past five and a half years. His favorable rating, according to the CNN poll, is now on par with Obama.

Better off if Romney had won?

Forty-five percent of those questioned say that America would be better off if Romney had won the 2012 election, with 38% saying the country would be worse off. Again, it's no surprise that 84% of Republicans say that America would be better if Romney had won and nearly three quarters of Democrats saying things would be worse.

For Romney, this endorsement's close to home

An adviser close to the former Massachusetts governor told CNN that he received a bunch of calls Wednesday, following the release of the poll, from donors who contributed to the 2012 Romney presidential campaign.

Spencer Zwick, the campaign finance chairman for Romney's 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns, said that he thinks the poll "creates a hope and interest from a lot of those donors who would have loved to seen Romney become president but are hopeful there may be a shot in the future."

"It started a few months ago with donors saying 'do you think there's any shot,' to donors now saying 'how do we convince him to do it.' Which is kind of interesting because they have heard Gov. Romney say 'I'm not planning on doing this again' and I think some of these donors don't want to take no for an answer," added Zwick.

Romney has said over and over that he won't run for the White House a third time.

"I'm not running," Romney last month on NBC's "Meet the Press," a line Romney's used in interviews every time he's asked about 2016. Romney's wife, Ann, has also been adamant against another run.

Obama's job running the government

By a 54%-44% margin, the survey indicates that the Obama administration is not competent in running the government.

The poll's Wednesday release comes as the scandal rocking the Department of Veterans Affairs dominated headlines recently. It's the latest controversy of the past year, following the NSA snooping scandal, the controversy over the IRS targeting of some conservative non-profit groups, and the rough rollout of the new federal health care law.

The President has also faced numerous international challenges, including the new bloodshed in Iraq, the civil war in Syria, and the fighting in Ukraine, as well as the controversial swapping of five Taliban prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay for the release of a U.S. soldier held captive in Afghanistan.

"This poll gives a window into the sentiment of Americans at the moment," said CNN Chief National Correspondent John King, who said he suspects the numbers could change dramatically in four or five years.

The Quinnipiac University poll was conducted June 24-30, with 1,446 registered voters nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 2.6 percentage points.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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TOLD YA!
HockeyDad Offline
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At least he's #1!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
At least he's #1!



Geeks, sportos, motorheads, dweebs, dorks, sluts, buttheads...they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.Frying pan
victor809 Offline
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It's an interesting idea.

I'm not sure it's an accurate method though. Mainly because we're asking people now, how they thought about prior presidents who likely had no impact on their lives.

I think a more accurate way of performing the poll would have been to compare approval ratings at equivalent times in each presidency... or something like that.

DrMaddVibe Offline
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victor809 wrote:
It's an interesting idea.

I'm not sure it's an accurate method though. Mainly because we're asking people now, how they thought about prior presidents who likely had no impact on their lives.

I think a more accurate way of performing the poll would have been to compare approval ratings at equivalent times in each presidency... or something like that.




Let's ask animals and inanimate objects then?Think
MACS Offline
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teedubbya is used to being wrong. He's finally just admitting it.
tailgater Offline
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The New York Times had this on page one:

"Obama bests GWB in recent poll"


victor809 Offline
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It's interesting... and a little surprising. I don't particularly like Obama, but to think things would have been better under Romney is shocking.

Honestly, people have very short memories, and a strong ability to forget problems of the past (there are a lot of neuroscience articles on it, it's a coping method we have). So I'm not that surprised that the issues a person faces today will trump and seem much worse than the issues they faced 8 years ago, 16 years ago or 40 years ago. That would create an imbalance in the "worst ever" polling... whoever is currently president will be more likely to get it (if they're disliked).

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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Let's ask animals and inanimate objects then?Think

It would not be shocking to find out the Obama Administration has a focus group looking into if they could somehow deceive America into believing that--"Obama Administration Focus Group says 99% of all living in US approve of everything he does and thinks he's just dandy." When questioned by reporters about who they asked to get that 99% approval number, silence ensued and the press conference was abruptly ended.
gryphonms Offline
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TW, you forgot to say I'm sorry.

I'm just saying.
TMCTLT Offline
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victor809 wrote:
It's interesting... and a little surprising. I don't particularly like Obama, but to think things would have been better under Romney is shocking.

Honestly, people have very short memories, and a strong ability to forget problems of the past (there are a lot of neuroscience articles on it, it's a coping method we have). So I'm not that surprised that the issues a person faces today will trump and seem much worse than the issues they faced 8 years ago, 16 years ago or 40 years ago. That would create an imbalance in the "worst ever" polling... whoever is currently president will be more likely to get it (if they're disliked).




I'm sorry....did you say something.....
teedubbya Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
TW, you forgot to say I'm sorry.

I'm just saying.



I'm sorry
victor809 Offline
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TMCTLT wrote:
I'm sorry....did you say something.....


I'm sorry, I used multi-syllable words. I should have known you wouldn't be able to read it.
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Tw apology accepted.
teedubbya Offline
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Thank you
gryphonms Offline
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Victor multisyllabic words are fine. For example baba black sheep.
teedubbya Offline
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don't be dissing pappy harrington
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Wonder where the poll will put obumber in 2 years.
victor809 Offline
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Related:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/07/people-who-call-obama-worst-president-since-second-world-war-also-blame-him-for-starting-it.html?mobify=0

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)— A new poll released Wednesday revealed that people rank President Barack Obama as the worst President since the Second World War, and also blame him for starting the Second World War.

While the respondents slammed the President for his handling of the economy, Iraq, and a host of other issues, his perceived role as the primary cause of the Second World War was the biggest drag on his numbers.

Even more troubling, when compared to the three leaders of the Axis powers during that war, President Obama polled at the bottom of the list, finishing far behind Emperor Hirohito of Japan.

“Fair or not, the American people hold the President responsible for starting the Second World War,” Davis Logsdon, a political-science professor at the University of Minnesota, said. “If the President hasn’t gotten his version of the story out, there’s only one person to blame for that: Barack Obama.”

In other poll results, the most popular President in the survey was Ronald Reagan, widely credited with ending the Second World War.
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Wonder how many will vote?
CruzJ Offline
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Not all that surprised by their findings.
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