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The UN Arms Trade Treaty has nothing to do with restricting the legal sale or ownership of guns within the United States. The aim of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is to combat the illicit international trade of arms by "tightening regulation of, and setting international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons" in order to "close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market":
The Arms Trade Treaty obligates member states to monitor arms exports and ensure that weapons don't cross existing arms embargoes or end up being used for human-rights abuses, including terrorism. Member states, with the assistance of the U.N., will put into place enforceable, standardized arms import and export regulations (much like those that already exist in the U.S.) and be expected to track the destination of exports to ensure they don't end up in the wrong hands. Ideally, that means limiting the inflow of deadly weapons into places like Syria.

The Obama administration has stated that mandatory conditions for U.S. approval of such an arms trade treaty include the following:

1. The Second Amendment to the Constitution must be upheld.
2. There will be no restrictions on civilian possession or trade of firearms otherwise permitted by law or protected by the U.S. Constitution.
3. There will be no dilution or diminishing of sovereign control over issues involving the private acquisition, ownership, or possession of firearms, which must remain matters of domestic law.

As the Wall Street Journal reported, the U.S. 'voted in favor [of the treaty only] after the Obama Administration secured its key "red line" that the treaty would have no impact on the Second Amendment. The final draft specifies "non-intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction" of signatories.'

You bought into your site's info which looks like a questionable gun site (WTF is "How To Build Your Own AR-15 “Ghost Gun.” No Serial Number. No Registration. 100% Legal."?)

Pot meet kettle.

And Walt Disney said the same thing about home sites in the everglades.

NRA Reacts to Signing of UN Arms Trade Treaty: Blatant Attack on Constitutional Rights
Sep. 25, 2013
Secretary of State John Kerry has signed the UN Arms Trade Treaty on behalf of the Obama administration and the National Rifle Association, which has spent years fighting the treaty, isn't happy about it.

“The Obama administration is once again demonstrating its contempt for our fundamental, individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms,” Executive Director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action Chris W. Cox said. “This treaty threatens individual firearm ownership with an invasive registration scheme. The NRA will continue working with the United States Senate to oppose ratification of the ATT.”


Keep in mind, the treaty isn't about weapons "of war" as the UN wants us all to believe, but instead covers "small are and light weapons," which means firearms owned by U.S. citizens are fair game. More from the NRA:

Notably, the ATT includes "small arms and light weapons" within its scope, which covers firearms owned by law-abiding citizens. Further, the treaty urges recordkeeping of end users, directing importing countries to provide information to an exporting country regarding arms transfers, including “end use or end user documentation” for a “minimum of ten years.” Each country is to “take measures, pursuant to its national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under its jurisdiction for conventional arms.” Data kept on the end users of imported firearms is a de-facto registry of law-abiding firearms owners, which is a violation of federal law. Even worse, the ATT could be construed to require such a registry to be made available to foreign governments.
That being said, the Senate would have to ratify the treaty for it to go into full effect, which is not expected.

“These are blatant attacks on the constitutional rights and liberties of every law-abiding American. The NRA will continue to fight this assault on our fundamental freedom,” Cox said.

We don't have to when we have reaaaaaaly smart guys like you and Victor the ALL Knowing / seeing

As far as advocating ghost guns TW, ANY source trying to limit or remove US citizens rights IS exactly why this kind of thing gets started in the first place!!m. ( their knowledge that gun grabbers will NEVER stop trying to limit or remove OUR Constitutional Rights. ) and I will hands down take the NRA's side on this matter Time and Again

A "ghost gun" is one which contains no serial number. Since home manufacturing of a firearm without a serial number is COMPLETELY legal, what credibility is that source lacking?

As far as the treaty is concerned, I skimmed through it reading and re-reading certain parts. For the most part this is a treaty aimed at control the international trade in arms. I seriously doubt the UN's endgame is to add a layer of gun control in the US. But, it would without a doubt lead to a national registry.

There are provisions in the treaty which would force creation of some sort of national database, though limited only to arms covered by the treaty, but would more likely than not be argued that it would be expanded to include all lawfully owned firearms since in theory they could all be exported. In a defacto way it would subject lawful gun owners to being registered in a UN database. It also provides for those lawful gun owners information to be shared with all treaty signees.

Article 2, 1. (h) Small arms and light weapons

Article 5, 2. Each State Party shall establish and maintain a national control system,
including a national control list, in order to implement the provisions of this Treaty.

Article 5, 4. Each State Party, pursuant to its national laws, shall provide its national
control list to the Secretariat, which shall make it available to other States Parties.
States Parties are encouraged to make their control lists publicly available.

Article 5, 5. Each State Party shall take measures necessary to implement the provisions of
this Treaty and shall designate competent national authorities in order to have an effective and transparent national control system regulating the transfer of conventional arms covered under Article 2 (1) and of items covered under Article 3 and Article 4.

For those interested, here is a link to the treaty. Read it for yourself and see what you think.

https://unoda-web.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/English7.pdf

Yea you don't have to understand all the fancy talk to know what it means lol.

After actually reading the text of the treaty I can see why the NRA is up in arms over the "national control system" (i. e. Registration System of guns manufactured overseas and sold in the US) that each country is required to maintain and provide to members of the treaty and the UN. So if you buy a Berreta then you go on the list. Article 2 does include "weapons of war" (tanks, missiles, artillery, rockets, warships and helicopters) as well as light arms, ammo and parts. I understand what they are trying to do with this treaty but I don't like the idea of giving the names of US citizen gun owner names to foreign governments.

Lol

I was actually thinking about you this morning. No not during my private time with lube and the Internet.

You are one of the folks that actually goes towards source documents and interpreting things must be s curse of your profession.

I think it would be a more accurate to say something about voting for it so it can be read. There's nothing to veto. The Senate called a vote to ratify the treaty. Thankfully, it failed.

By the way, this treaty originated from the UN Office of Disarmament.