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filler up Kookifornians....
ZRX1200 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
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December 15, 2014 Tony Francois

You read that correctly. Today, California motorists have the right to buy as much gasoline as they want, and fuel companies have the right to sell as much as they can supply, at prices agreeable to both. But in the New Year, California will limit sales of gasoline, diesel, and natural gas and propane for business and home use.

The California Air Resources Board is doing this through its Greenhouse Gas Cap and Trade Regulation. This rule makes it illegal to burn conventional fuels like coal and natural gas in industrial facilities without a state permit for each ton of resulting carbon dioxide.* Since California only issues a limited number of allowances each year, the limit on carbon dioxide effectively limits the amount of fuel that can be used to produce it. Starting in two weeks, the limit will expand from factories and power plants to fuel used in ordinary cars and trucks, and natural gas and propane for home heating and cooking.

How is this going on without an enormous public outcry?

Because the Air Resources Board is requiring gasoline and diesel refiners and importers to have the permits in order to sell fuel, rather than imposing that obligation on retail fuel purchasers. As a result, this statewide rationing system is invisible to most citizens. Their free market right to buy gasoline is being replaced with a bureaucratic central planning regime, the purpose of which is to reduce the overall supply of conventional fuel legally usable in California.

Adding insult to injury, California is collecting billions of dollars of illegal taxes through the fuel rationing cap and trade program, by auctioning all of the fuel permits to the highest bidders. Pacific Legal Foundation is challenging these billions in illegal fuel taxes in the California court of appeal. The California legislature never approved them, and the state Constitution would prohibit them if the legislature had.
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#2 Posted:
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If you don't know, or want to go down a deep rabbit hole....here's a term many aren't aware of. This is how the far left is using the universities to push unpopular agendas without REAL public input. Ever asked yourself "how did this get enacted?" Well .....


What is Collaborative Governance?

Leaders engaging with all sectors—public, private, non-profit, citizens, and others—to develop effective, lasting solutions to public problems that go beyond what any sector could achieve on its own.
What results does it produce?
The best public solutions come from people working together on issues. Collaborative governance takes as its starting point the idea that working together creates more lasting, effective solutions.
Lasting—Solutions developed through collaborative governance won't simply be undone in the next year or legislative session.
Effective—The collaborative governance approach ensures that the realities of the situation are considered and discussed; decisions are not made in a vacuum.
More buy-in—From the outset, all with a stake are involved in authentic ways; all have a role in the final agreement.
Why is it needed?
Accelerating change
Overlapping institutions and jurisdictions
Increasing complexity
A need to integrate policies and resources
How is this different from "government?"
"Governance" is the process by which public ends and means are identified, agreed upon, and pursued. This is different than "government," which relates to the specific jurisdiction in which authority is exercised. "Governance" is a broader term and encompasses both formal and informal systems of relationships and networks for decision making and problem solving.
What does it take?
Collaborative governance requires three elements:
Sponsor- an agency, foundation, civic organization, public-private coalition, etc. to initiate and provide support
Convener/Leader- a governor, legislator, local official, respected civic leader, etc. with power to bring diverse people together to work on common problems
Neutral Forum- an impartial organization or venue, etc. to provide and ensure skilled process managament
How does it work?
The System integrates the principles and network to assure an effective collaborative governance process:
Sponsors identify and raise an issue
Assessment is made on the feasibility for collaboration and who needs to be involved
Leader(s) convene all needed participants
Participants adopt this framework for addressing the issue
Conveners and participants frame (or reframe) the issue for deliberation
Neutral forum/facilitator designs and conducts a process to negotiate interests and integrate resources
Written agreement establishes accountability
Sponsors identify and raise an issue or opportunity that calls for a collaborative response
This collaborative governance system can work anywhere as long as several key principles are adhered to: transparency; equity and inclusiveness; effectiveness and efficiency; responsiveness; accountability; forum neutrality; and consensus-based decision making.
MACS Offline
#3 Posted:
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Perhaps leaving California will not suffice.

Perhaps leaving the country would be preferable...
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#4 Posted:
Joined: 03-03-2013
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MACS wrote:
Perhaps leaving California will not suffice.

Perhaps leaving the country would be preferable...


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QGgGCvuez14
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted:
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And now:

JANUARY 2, 2015 9:50 AM
INVASION U.S.A.
(CA Political Review) – State officials hope a new law that offers California driver’s licenses to immigrants in the country illegally will also encourage them to buy insurance.

To encourage the practice, the California Department of Insurance is aggressively marketing its Low Cost Auto Insurance program to the large pool of immigrants projected to seek licenses under the AB 60 law taking effect Jan. 1.

“It would be a tragedy if after all this effort, the 1.4 million people who are getting driver’s licenses for the first time don’t have auto insurance,” said Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones.

Jones and others recognized that the cost of getting licensed — $33 — is a lot cheaper than buying insurance for hundreds of dollars a year. So, Jones, working with Senator Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, got the state Legislature to open up the low-cost insurance program to the new category of immigrant drivers.

“The price will be less than $450 a year, which is less than $38 a month,” Jones said. He said that’s about a third of what it costs to get private auto insurance in many markets across California.

Jones said more than 90 percent of AB 60 applicants are expected to be Spanish speakers. So the state’s been pushing its low-cost insurance through Spanish-language media and ads like this:

Los Angeles-based insurance broker Susan Rocha said the state program likely offers the lowest prices for low-income immigrant drivers, especially since they have no official driving record.

“Any place else it’s going to be much more, because they are considered a new driver,” Rocha said.

But Rocha cautioned that the state’s low-cost program is very basic, and those who can afford more might want to join a private plan with beefier coverage. If they can jump on a relative’s plan, they may be able to enjoy loyalty discounts, Rocha said.

For years, California law has allowed immigrants in the country illegally to buy insurance even without a license. But day laborer Alfredo Vidal said he just didn’t see the point.

“Why?” said Vidal, who borrows his friend’s pick-up truck for construction gigs around L.A. “I don’t have a driver’s license.”

But going without insurance can lead to hundreds of dollars in fines, not to mention losing one’s driver’s license, and car registration. In a crash, a driver might not be able to afford thousands of dollars in repairs. Some drivers might be apt to leave the scene. And this could raise insurance costs for everybody.

Vidal was willing to accept the risks.

“I have to take people with materials to the houses,” Vidal said. “I have to be driving all the time.”

Immigrant advocates have largely avoided handing out insurance advice. Ana Garcia gives workshops on the new law for the Central American Resource Center, and said her priority is helping immigrants get their license.

“We only went over insurance when they take the driving test,” Garcia said. “I let them know that whatever car they need to use for the driving test needs to be insured.”

For his driver’s test, Vidal said he’ll borrow his friend’s car, which is already insured. If he passes and gets his license, Vidal says he’ll take all the proper next steps.

“We’re going to get insurance – everybody,” Vidal said. “We know it's the law now".
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#6 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,306
ZRX1200 wrote:
And now:

JANUARY 2, 2015 9:50 AM
INVASION U.S.A.
(CA Political Review) – State officials hope a new law that offers California driver’s licenses to immigrants in the country illegally will also encourage them to buy insurance.

To encourage the practice, the California Department of Insurance is aggressively marketing its Low Cost Auto Insurance program to the large pool of immigrants projected to seek licenses under the AB 60 law taking effect Jan. 1.

“It would be a tragedy if after all this effort, the 1.4 million people who are getting driver’s licenses for the first time don’t have auto insurance,” said Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones.

Jones and others recognized that the cost of getting licensed — $33 — is a lot cheaper than buying insurance for hundreds of dollars a year. So, Jones, working with Senator Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, got the state Legislature to open up the low-cost insurance program to the new category of immigrant drivers.

“The price will be less than $450 a year, which is less than $38 a month,” Jones said. He said that’s about a third of what it costs to get private auto insurance in many markets across California.

Jones said more than 90 percent of AB 60 applicants are expected to be Spanish speakers. So the state’s been pushing its low-cost insurance through Spanish-language media and ads like this:

Los Angeles-based insurance broker Susan Rocha said the state program likely offers the lowest prices for low-income immigrant drivers, especially since they have no official driving record.

“Any place else it’s going to be much more, because they are considered a new driver,” Rocha said.

But Rocha cautioned that the state’s low-cost program is very basic, and those who can afford more might want to join a private plan with beefier coverage. If they can jump on a relative’s plan, they may be able to enjoy loyalty discounts, Rocha said.

For years, California law has allowed immigrants in the country illegally to buy insurance even without a license. But day laborer Alfredo Vidal said he just didn’t see the point.

“Why?” said Vidal, who borrows his friend’s pick-up truck for construction gigs around L.A. “I don’t have a driver’s license.”

But going without insurance can lead to hundreds of dollars in fines, not to mention losing one’s driver’s license, and car registration. In a crash, a driver might not be able to afford thousands of dollars in repairs. Some drivers might be apt to leave the scene. And this could raise insurance costs for everybody.

Vidal was willing to accept the risks.

“I have to take people with materials to the houses,” Vidal said. “I have to be driving all the time.”

Immigrant advocates have largely avoided handing out insurance advice. Ana Garcia gives workshops on the new law for the Central American Resource Center, and said her priority is helping immigrants get their license.

“We only went over insurance when they take the driving test,” Garcia said. “I let them know that whatever car they need to use for the driving test needs to be insured.”

For his driver’s test, Vidal said he’ll borrow his friend’s car, which is already insured. If he passes and gets his license, Vidal says he’ll take all the proper next steps.

“We’re going to get insurance – everybody,” Vidal said. “We know it's the law now".


Considering the fact that they are US illegally, I'm sure they are going to rush out and buy insurance since it's the law.
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#7 Posted:
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Yeah they did in all the other states that did the same thing already...... um..


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