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You can't make fun of terrorists at the U. of Minnesota
Burner02 Offline
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-"The Minnesota Republic published a back cover mocking terrorists in 2011.

-"The University of Minnesota's funding committee said that the cover demonstrated "an overt lack of sensitivity to the portrayal of members of the Arab world."

-"Such material could, according to the committee, "compromise the cultural harmony of the campus."

No student or student group at a public university should have to fight for their First Amendment rights. But as I’m preparing for graduation in a few short months, that’s exactly what I find myself doing—fighting for the rights of my student publication.

At the Minnesota Republic, we pride ourselves in standing up for freedom of speech on campus because we might not exist without it.

"In the future, close attention may be paid to the content published by Students for a Conservative Voice to ensure that any material that is produced with student fee funds does not compromise the cultural harmony of the campus." Tweet This

Our publication, derived from the University of Minnesota’s Students for a Conservative Voice (SCV), allows students on campus to share their viewpoints no matter what—even if they are considered offensive.

And no other publication on campus can say that.

When Vice Provost of Student Affairs and Dean of Students Danita Young Brown apologized to students for a student group throwing a fiesta on the grounds that it might offend the Chicano and Latino students, we printed Goldy Gopher with a sombrero on the front cover. After the Charlie Hebdo attacks, we put a drawing of Muhammad on the cover, asking for speech over terror.

We do these things to show support for students’ right to say what they want on campus.

But the Student Service Fees Committee (SSFC) is now putting our rights in danger.

Every year student groups apply for funding from this committee, which is responsible for allocating millions of dollars. And while it’s a fight every year to secure the funding needed to print the Minnesota Republic, this year we were faced with a new challenge—the right to publish what we want.

At SCV’s budget presentation to the committee, we were asked about a back cover from an issue published in 2011 that pictured a man with a gun burning an issue of the Minnesota Republic with the words, “Terrorists hate the Minnesota Republic.”

Other than the protection afforded by the First Amendment to print such things, the SSFC even has its own rule that protects students’ rights to print content without hurting their request for funding.

And if the fees committee was following its own rules, a four-year-old newspaper cover would not have been questioned.

“While reviewing one of the sample publications, committee members came across material that demonstrated an overt lack of sensitivity to the portrayal of members of the Arab world,” SSFC’s funding recommendation to the Minnesota Republic said. “When pressed for information on how this piece made it into print, representatives informed the committee that, based on the date of this particular publication, the members responsible for that work are no longer in the organization and that this particular piece is not representative of the work produced by the organization today.”

“After assessing this information, the Student Service Fee Committee would like to emphasize for the group the significance of culturally sensitive discourse on a campus like the University of Minnesota, which prides itself on being home to a wide range of values and beliefs held by members that originate from countless cultures across the globe,” the recommendation continued. “In the future, close attention may be paid to the content published by Students for a Conservative Voice to ensure that any material that is produced with student fee funds does not compromise the cultural harmony of the campus and to ensure that the material that is produced is not at odds with the criteria in place for receiving this funding.”

I am shocked that not one person in the room during these deliberations questioned the committee’s flagrant disregard for our right to free speech as it was questioning whether or not our publication disrupts the “cultural harmony” on U of M’s campus.

It’s clear that their statement is meant to scare students on campus from publishing or saying anything that the committee might not like.

Students should be encouraged to share their views at a public university, not threatened when they do so.

Sadly, this is not the first time that the Minnesota Republic has had to deal with censorship issues at the U of M. Earlier this year, a stack of our publication was found in the garbage next to our newsstand. Our newsstands have also been vandalized and signs promoting the Minnesota Republic have been ripped up and thrown on the ground.

The Minnesota Republic has dealt with all of this, while the U of M has stood by and allowed it to happen. Whether it is offensive speech or not, all speech on a public university campus should be protected.

Students on campus should not have to feel as though the university is spying on them, waiting for a chance to strip them of their First Amendment rights. Instead, students—especially on a public campus—should be undeterred in their discourse and dialogue on any issue.
teedubbya Offline
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I've always wondered what rights are taken away when someone simply says I wont fund you if ....... Funding always comes with strings

While I sympathize with desire to be a freedom writer I find irony with the entitlement mentality. Fund it yourself and do what you want. Learn what the first amendment is and isn't if you want to have anything to do with this field.

No one is forcing them to be a student there, or to lobby the university for funding. Student fees are at the discretion of the university usually with student input. Bitch about the inequity or hypocrisy but the 1st amendment has nothing to do with it and shows ignorance.

This whole thing is quaint and contrived and smacks of typicall campus silliness and immature outrage.


I'd also like the source because I find it interesting and would like to get the whole story rather than one side.
gryphonms Offline
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I see no connection between funding a student group and freedom of speech. This is another idiot spouting off ignorantly.
bgz Offline
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I agree with teedub and gryph, with funding comes strings, that's just the way it is.

The kid that's complaining has every right to complain without being thrown in jail for it though, so all is good.
rfenst Offline
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Meaningless without seeing the image.
Burner02 Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Meaningless without seeing the image.




http://campusreform.org/?ID=6329
Burner02 Offline
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Maybe the crux of the problem is a liberal institution of higher learning is flexing its muscle over a conservative student paper about a pic that was published in 2011 that according to the university is "an overt lack of sensitivity to the portrayal of members of the Arab world."

If it is offensive now, it would seem that it was offensive in 2011.
teedubbya Offline
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Maybe. Or it could fluff.
teedubbya Offline
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teedubbya wrote:

Bitch about the inequity or hypocrisy but the 1st amendment has nothing to do with it and shows ignorance.

This whole thing is quaint and contrived and smacks of typicall campus silliness and immature outrage.


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gryphonms wrote:
I see no connection between funding a student group and freedom of speech. This is another idiot spouting off ignorantly.



I agree to some extent however I see him no more an idiot than the Vice Provost MS Brown and her over the top political correct approach to everything.


When Vice Provost of Student Affairs and Dean of Students Danita Young Brown apologized to students for a student group throwing a fiesta on the grounds that it might offend the Chicano and Latino students, we printed Goldy Gopher with a sombrero on the front cover. After the Charlie Hebdo attacks, we put a drawing of Muhammad on the cover, asking for speech over terror.


I find this kind of thinking completely idiotic, because if we want to we " coulda mighta " get offended over anything or everything as is becoming the case.
teedubbya Offline
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Uptin Sinclair could publish whatever he wanted as long as he had the funding to do so and they (the funders) agreed with it. It's all about the sausage.
Burner02 Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
I see no connection between funding a student group and freedom of speech. This is another idiot spouting off ignorantly.


Probably a product of their environment, U of M.
victor809 Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
Maybe the crux of the problem is a liberal institution of higher learning is flexing its muscle over a conservative student paper about a pic that was published in 2011 that according to the university is "an overt lack of sensitivity to the portrayal of members of the Arab world."

If it is offensive now, it would seem that it was offensive in 2011.


What's interesting is that they were in no way punished for the 2011 cover.
The committee asked them about it, were given an answer, and the committee then told them that they didn't believe that sort of material is appropriate and they were going to keep an eye on the newspaper....

They were warned is all. And now someone wants to try to make it into something that it's not.

If they don't want to get warned not to publish certain things, then sell ad space and become self-funded. Or get an outside donation... granted, they'll have to make sure they don't publish anything that outside donor doesn't like.

It's dumb. And I don't blame the students for blowing it out of proportion. When you're in college, of course something like this would seem like a tragedy, a trampling of your rights (because as a college student you don't understand your rights on campus aren't the same rights you have in the real world, un-supported by the university). I blame whatever idiot thought this was an actual "news" story fit for adults. And whoever decided to propagate it as such.
gryphonms Offline
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I would agree that the university also is acting idiotic. Though they did not violate anyones freedom of speech.
teedubbya Offline
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Every time I try to say **** in here my first amendment rights are violated.
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If you can't make fun of terrorists, then the terrorists win.
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