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fenderbendertex Offline
#51 Posted: Sun, Mar 8 2015, 10:52 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
On my off days, I work as an SRO in the school system. The lunches I've tasted SUCK. Not only that, they are IMHO inadequate in terms of volume. They are barley snack sized.

Outstanding observation! I'm still trying to figure out how the football teams at my schools can practice at 4:30 with a snack for lunch. BTW, bake sales and candy fundraisers are now illegal during the school day with a five- digit fine.
Anthony, thank you for helping the schools.
victor809 Offline
#52 Posted: Sun, Mar 8 2015, 10:56 PM EST
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Oh they may. Anything CAN happen. But frequently people seem to prefer believing on what they believe could happen based on their view of the world over actual evidence to the contrary.

Currently the only evidence I have seen that schools have prohibited food from home has been because of the Head Start program.

And you know tw isn't going to stop talking about you and jade... He's a jealous ex lover.
fenderbendertex Offline
#53 Posted: Sun, Mar 8 2015, 11:02 PM EST
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I hear you about the prohibited food victor. I hope the $10,000 fine for candy fundraisers is just my district. But somehow I doubt it. How are the kids reacting to the lunches? By sneaking in giant bags of hot Cheetos in their bags... I catch them often. Big step backward on the childhood obesity front...
victor809 Offline
#54 Posted: Sun, Mar 8 2015, 11:11 PM EST
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^ true. It probably isn't actually helping.
tailgater Offline
#55 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 7:09 AM EST
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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-04-11/news/ct-met-school-lunch-restrictions-041120110410_1_lunch-food-provider-public-school


Chicago tribune article detailing how one elementary school has banned food from home.
3.2 seconds of research.


If anyone thinks that this action is not related to the First Lady's programs, then you might consider seeking professional denial syndrome. Moochelle may not have mandated anything, but she seeded the pea brains that run our schools.

Sometimes, when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a f*cking duck.
jetblasted Offline
#56 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 11:53 AM EST
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In other news, Beverly Hall is dead.
I'm Batman Offline
#57 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 12:05 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
In other news, Beverly Hall is dead.


did the new lunches do her in?
victor809 Offline
#58 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 12:42 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-04-11/news/ct-met-school-lunch-restrictions-041120110410_1_lunch-food-provider-public-school


Chicago tribune article detailing how one elementary school has banned food from home.
3.2 seconds of research.


If anyone thinks that this action is not related to the First Lady's programs, then you might consider seeking professional denial syndrome. Moochelle may not have mandated anything, but she seeded the pea brains that run our schools.

Sometimes, when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a f*cking duck.



It's almost like you wanted to give me an exact example of:
that really smart guy victor wrote:

Just because a story fits your view of the world doesn't make it true.....


You may have been better served to spend an extra couple seconds of actually reading the article before claiming this is in any way associated with the First Lady's programs.

The article was written in 2011.
"[Principal} Carmona said she created the policy six years ago ..."

Michelle Obama became First Lady in 2009.
tailgater Offline
#59 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 1:25 PM EST
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When was the policy put into place?

This simply does not happen without Michelle's influence.
jetblasted Offline
#60 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 1:40 PM EST
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Beverly Hall was head Atlanta Public Schools who forced principle to change test scores of students in failing schools where they miraculously went from failing to college prep overnight.

As one teacher described her students, "They is dumb."
I'm Batman Offline
#61 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 1:51 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Beverly Hall was head Atlanta Public Schools who forced principle to change test scores of students in failing schools where they miraculously went from failing to college prep overnight.

As one teacher described her students, "They is dumb."


sooooo, the new lunches did do her in.
victor809 Offline
#62 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 3:25 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
When was the policy put into place?

This simply does not happen without Michelle's influence.



I don't know. I would interpret: "Carmona said she created the policy six years ago after watching students bring "bottles of soda and flaming hot chips" on field trips for their lunch." as implying she put it in place in 2005. That's when she became principle of the school. Nothing I've looked up has given an exact date of when this was put in place (except Snopes, which states 2001, but that is definitely incorrect... see, I saw information which should agree with my point, but looked at it closer because it seemed too convenient. Others should try that more often here)....

You seem to think that Michelle Obama is the queen health nazi or something. There are tons of people in this country who are involved in trying to make people healthier, whether they want it or not. to think that a stupid policy couldn't have been enacted before Obama became president is kind of ridiculous. It's like you believe dumb policies couldn't have existed pre-obama. I can guarantee you they did.
tailgater Offline
#63 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 7:34 PM EST
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You're wasting your time.
You know and I know that Moochell has influenced bad policy in the name of getting fit.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/14/usda-bans-all-junk-food-sales-schools-around-natio/

Another 2.1 seconds of research.

Not a home food ban, but a ban on vending items.

Bravo, first lady.
You're wide hips have been an inspiration.
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 8:10 PM EST
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... That may have been 2.1 seconds of research but it was a waste of time.

You're supposed to be proving that Michelle Obama's healthy food act is responsible for schools banning home-packed lunches, either intentionally or unintentionally... That's the argument you decided to take up TCBYs slack on.

Anything else is a distraction.
tailgater Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 9:00 PM EST
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Look! Something shiny.

never before in my life time have I heard of schools banning food from home. This is a new phenomenon and who happens to be the first lady? And what happens to be her policy? but let's not draw a conclusion from the facts at hand.
tailgater Offline
#66 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 9:03 PM EST
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in post 16 you say the schools are not banning food. when showing proof you then claim it's not the first lady. I believe if I spent a full 10 seconds on research I could find a more recent school banning.. But I'd rather enjoying my cigar. Goodnight.
victor809 Offline
#67 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 9:25 PM EST
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Tail. I specifically stated in post 24 that we are discussing the healthy lunch act. This entire post is about the healthy lunch act. In fact, if it doesn't have anything to do with the healthy lunch act, there's no need to blame Michelle Obama.

If we weren't specifically referring to the healthy lunch act one could bring up the multiple allergy related food bannings which restrict food from home.

Additionally, according to the article you posted the one instance of banning food from home you've cited, was developed during the Bush administration. So I assume we should blame Laura Bush?
frankj1 Offline
#68 Posted: Mon, Mar 9 2015, 9:39 PM EST
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Laura's Bush, s'il vous plait...it's not just for breakfast anymore
tailgater Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 6:55 AM EST
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12.4 seconds.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/school-bans-homemade-lunches-angering-parents-critical-federal-nutritional-standards-263026

School in VA cited federal guidelines as the reason to ban home lunches.
Post 2010.
victor809 Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 11:34 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
12.4 seconds.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/school-bans-homemade-lunches-angering-parents-critical-federal-nutritional-standards-263026

School in VA cited federal guidelines as the reason to ban home lunches.
Post 2010.








Sigh.

An "unnamed school in Richmond"?

You don't happen to think that "unnamed school in Richmond" could be the same Henrico County school in the first story you posted, do you? .... the one that is actually banning the school lunches because of the Head Start program. right?

Hell, the "federal program" they even cite (assuming that this is miraculously a different school also banning lunches) is the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, not the Healthy Lunches Act which is the program Michelle Obama was promoting. The Dietary Guidelines for Americans has been around WAYYYY longer than the obamas, it's just published every 5 years. There's a 2005 version too if you want.

Seriously Tail. start spending a little more time with your research. You're starting to sound like TCBY.
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 11:43 AM EST
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Even for in here this argument has been lame.
tailgater Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 3:58 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Sigh.

An "unnamed school in Richmond"?

You don't happen to think that "unnamed school in Richmond" could be the same Henrico County school in the first story you posted, do you? .... the one that is actually banning the school lunches because of the Head Start program. right?

Hell, the "federal program" they even cite (assuming that this is miraculously a different school also banning lunches) is the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, not the Healthy Lunches Act which is the program Michelle Obama was promoting. The Dietary Guidelines for Americans has been around WAYYYY longer than the obamas, it's just published every 5 years. There's a 2005 version too if you want.

Seriously Tail. start spending a little more time with your research. You're starting to sound like TCBY.


28.9 seconds.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/05/were-parents-we-do-know-better-dad-angry-after-hes-told-his-picky-eater-daughter-can-only-eat-center-provided-lunches/

Florida.
During Obama administration.
Cites "federal" rules.


And before your panties go all puffy, the federal "child care food program" is influenced (like every other school lunch program) by the actions that the first lady set into motion.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Politics-Voices/2014/0808/Back-to-school-No-snacks-for-you-Michelle-Obama-says

I think Moochelle is despicable.
I don't really need these types of facts to prove it. But you're so keen on defending her that I thought it would be fun.
banderl Offline
#73 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 4:18 PM EST
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Damn that wife of the Kenyan born Muslim commie!
teedubbya Offline
#74 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 4:53 PM EST
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I think the moral of the story is anything that happens to any local lunch program is a result of moo moo Obama.
victor809 Offline
#75 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 4:54 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
28.9 seconds.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/05/were-parents-we-do-know-better-dad-angry-after-hes-told-his-picky-eater-daughter-can-only-eat-center-provided-lunches/

Florida.
During Obama administration.
Cites "federal" rules.


You didn't read the entire article, did you?
Quote:

"After WOFL-TV dug deeper into the packed lunch ban, it found out that the state’s Department of Children and Families did conduct a routine inspection of lunches in April, but it didn’t note any issues in the meals brought by parents.

Kristi Gray, a spokeswoman for the DCF, told WOFL that nutrition of homemade lunches isn’t something it considers in its inspections."

“This agency does not require that facilities provide oversight of what parents pack for their children to eat. There would not be fines or citations issued as a result of the contents of a child’s lunch box.”

"“Shoot me, I really wanted to provide healthy meals,” Kathryn Sutherin, who owns the facility with her husband, told the news station, rolling her eyes in surprise to some of the parents’ backlash to the letter"

The woman just did it by fiat, randomly referencing an inspection as the reason. The inspection wasn't even looking at what she claimed they were looking at.


tail wrote:

And before your panties go all puffy,

I didn't know that not jumping all in THREE TIMES IN A ROW after patently false articles constituted getting one's panties puffy. You do realize, that if the 4th or 5th time (or whatever you're on now) you successfully dig something up, you've lost anyway. You've proven that people immediately believe the headline of anything they think is in line with their version of the truth. It's so bad that in half of these, the article actually contains information to the contrary, and you've still tried citing them.

Quote:

the federal "child care food program" is influenced (like every other school lunch program) by the actions that the first lady set into motion.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Politics-Voices/2014/0808/Back-to-school-No-snacks-for-you-Michelle-Obama-says

too bad the child care food program didn't actually influence that decision, per the quote from the woman running it.
Quote:

I think Moochelle is despicable.
I don't really need these types of facts to prove it. But you're so keen on defending her that I thought it would be fun.



You can think she's as despicable as you want. You're doing a piss poor job of proving that this particular cause of hers has done anything though.
jetblasted Offline
#76 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 4:58 PM EST
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I concluded in .003 seconds these rebuttals were Blah, Blah, Blah ... In my best Charlie Brown Teacher's Voice, of course.
victor809 Offline
#77 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 5:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think the moral of the story is anything that happens to any local lunch program is a result of moo moo Obama.


I heard they make the Iranian kids eat falafel at school.
DAMN YOU MICHELLE!!!!
gryphonms Offline
#78 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 5:34 PM EST
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Victor, your compeatly wrong on the issue, Falafel WITH Couscous.
teedubbya Offline
#79 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 9:29 PM EST
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I heard they are making the Jewish kids eat fried circumcisions and calling it calamari yet they are not making the mooslums drink the pork broth. I blame Obammy.
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#80 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 9:41 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard they are making the Jewish kids eat fried circumcisions and calling it calamari yet they are not making the mooslums drink the pork broth. I blame Obammy.

I heard the same, but didn't believe it.
tailgater Offline
#81 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 10:53 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard they are making the Jewish kids eat fried circumcisions and calling it calamari.


I ordered that once.
Didn't know what to tip...
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 11:05 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You didn't read the entire article, did you?

The woman just did it by fiat, randomly referencing an inspection as the reason. The inspection wasn't even looking at what she claimed they were looking at.



I didn't know that not jumping all in THREE TIMES IN A ROW after patently false articles constituted getting one's panties puffy. You do realize, that if the 4th or 5th time (or whatever you're on now) you successfully dig something up, you've lost anyway. You've proven that people immediately believe the headline of anything they think is in line with their version of the truth. It's so bad that in half of these, the article actually contains information to the contrary, and you've still tried citing them.


too bad the child care food program didn't actually influence that decision, per the quote from the woman running it.

You can think she's as despicable as you want. You're doing a piss poor job of proving that this particular cause of hers has done anything though.


In post 44 I stated:
"The fact is this:
Michelle Obama pushed her agenda, it was passed in Congress, and now some local school systems are taking it to an extreme. She's got her paw prints all over it."

I never said the federal policy created a no-home food rule. Just that it would be used as an excuse to do so.
You're arguing the wrong point.
Again.

I think her get fit program is a good cause. I dislike the fact that congress used it to create yet more rules and misguided funding. And I am just cynical enough to have known that some backwards school systems would take it to extremes. IF you can't follow the chain of reason (school blames fed program that was based on her guidelines) then I can't help you.

Now excuse me. I'm gonna order some calamari.
jetblasted Offline
#83 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 11:13 PM EST
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Squid is Bait.
pdxstogieman Offline
#84 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 11:22 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You know that's not true, why do you have to get TMSTCLT's hopes up?


Talking crap about Michelle Obama is the only thing that gets him hard.
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#85 Posted: Tue, Mar 10 2015, 11:34 PM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Victor, your compeatly wrong on the issue, Falafel WITH Couscous.


Hummus a few bars and I'll fake it
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#86 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 12:30 AM EST
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I'm gonna start slinging cheeseburger at schools.

Easy to woof down the evidence.
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#87 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 1:29 AM EST
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My kid takes her lunch to high school everyday. She says none of the kids will eat cafeteria food because its so bad and almost everyone brings their lunch to school. I wonder what they do with all the food that isn't eaten?

Its sad - I ate cafeteria food at school and remember it as being decent - burgers, fries, pizza on one side - healthy choice meals on the other side. I ate both, sometimes on the same day.
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#88 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 1:37 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
In post 44 I stated:
"The fact is this:
Michelle Obama pushed her agenda, it was passed in Congress, and now some local school systems are taking it to an extreme. She's got her paw prints all over it."

I never said the federal policy created a no-home food rule. Just that it would be used as an excuse to do so.
You're arguing the wrong point.
Again.

I think her get fit program is a good cause. I dislike the fact that congress used it to create yet more rules and misguided funding. And I am just cynical enough to have known that some backwards school systems would take it to extremes. IF you can't follow the chain of reason (school blames fed program that was based on her guidelines) then I can't help you.

Now excuse me. I'm gonna order some calamari.


Dude Tail... you're grasping here.

I mean, the stance you're taking is that now ANY school which does anything relating to children's lunches is doing it because it's Michelle Obama's fault. Even if they are simply doing it on a whim, and even when justifying that whim they are claiming it's because of a state program?

It's one thing if the Administrator were saying something like "I want our school to follow the Healthy Hunger Free Kids Act" and then does something stupid. Sure, they're clearly misguided and following the Act incorrectly. But the example you gave me they aren't even citing that federal act. They're citing a state program, which itself is claiming it has nothing to do with it.

The school ISN'T blaming a fed program based on her guidelines. It's blaming some Florida Child Care Food program. And yes, that's a part of the USDA Child Care Food Program, but I can't find any data on when that started and I'm willing to bet it was well before the Obamas.

What's funniest about this whole thing is I actually DO believe you're correct. I'm willing to bet that statistically speaking, there are enough schools out there that at least ONE of them probably has misinterpreted the Healthy Hunger Free Kids Act. But, I'm confident enough there is so much noise and misinformation out there surrounding it, that you're likely not going to find a good example of it actually happening. Basically, so many people are lying or not bothering to figure out the truth, that I don't believe you'll actually ever find a real example of it happening. :)
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#89 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 6:08 AM EST
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I still blame her.
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