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Nixon............
banderl Offline
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The Seventies on CNN featured ole Tricky Dicky tonight, forgot how much of a scum bag the dude was.
tonygraz Offline
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Just imagine what was on that 18 minutes of tape that got erased.
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tonygraz wrote:
Just imagine what was on that 18 minutes of tape that got erased.

In my dilinquent youth, we would walk up to the Nixon campaign booth at the local shopping center and say that we would help pass out flyers. We would walk to the nearest trash can and dump them and go back and say we need more.
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revisionists try to soften what happened.
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I think he was better than several we've had since.
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When I was in junior high in the mid-70's, my best friend's Dad was on his security detail in the secret service.

Incidentally, the secret service was established to go after rampant counterfeiting of money during the Civil War.
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jetblasted wrote:
When I was in junior high in the mid-70's, my best friend's Dad was on his security detail in the secret service.

Incidentally, the secret service was established to go after rampant counterfeiting of money during the Civil War.

Counterfeiting money was the earliest way that new money got introduced to meet the needs of a growing econony. Before the Federal Reserve and national control on printing money, counterfeiting was looked at with a blind eye as long as it was not blatant or excessive. Counterfeiters filled a need no one knew how to address. A new country and expanding economy was always running into a currency shortage. You could quintuple your production of corn and iron but who was going to increase the money supply? After the civil war, uncontrolled creation of money in the absence of commensurate economic growth would have been a disaster.
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teedubbya wrote:
I think he was better than several we've had since.

ya know, he is maybe the toughest of them all to place in a single slot. There were so many pros and cons, often confusing within the same events.

At the time of his presidency, the older brother of a still close friend was Kissinger's #1 aide. He even appeared on the Time or Newsweek cover with the gang as they landed in China...a much ballyhooed accomplishment triumphed by Nixon supporters as groundbreaking and unprecedented, as relations had been frozen for many years between our nation and China.

But in typical Nixonian inability to have clarity, many people with a smattering of knowledge of political history were aware that Nixon was probably the leading power in originally shutting the door on China in the 50's!

The guy burned both ends of many candles, could not stand success, was clearly paranoid (tapes, bugs, secrets) trust was not in his vocabulary.

Brilliant? Pretty likely.
Self destructive? Certainly.

But he left an undeniable stain on the highest office in the land, (fixing an election he was going to win in a landslide? WTF?) and from that point forward no administration has been able to be trusted...I don't mean loved or admired, and maybe there is a better word than "trusted" for what seems to be permanently removed from the relationship between the people and the Office.

Perhaps that is actually a good thing, perhaps the public was too naive, and if that is the case, once again Tricky ****** served a mixed drink of good result accidentally arising from self destructive crime.
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In retrospect what he did was the equivelant of deflating a ball or two. Presidents after him did worse.

He should have gotten a 15 yard penalty and $5000 fine.
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^+1. A very complex individual with his share of problems.
teedubbya Offline
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I knew you would agree with me.
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Was Nixon a Republican or a Democrat? I need to know before I decide who I'm enraged with...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Was Nixon a Republican or a Democrat? I need to know before I decide who I'm enraged with...



He was a crook.
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So was Robin Hood... But he was libertarian so no one cared...
banderl Offline
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Nixon went on TV and claimed that he wasn't.
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Cheap bassard only bought his wife a cloth coat.
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On another note, I'm related to the former Congressman & Senator Claude Pepper from Florida. He was involved with the Watergate hearings in the 70's.

I had a correspondance with him in the late 70's, regarding our genealogy. He was known to be a strong supporter for the rights of the elderly.

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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Was Nixon a Republican or a Democrat? I need to know before I decide who I'm enraged with...

though a Republican, it was a time when crossing the aisle on issues was actually not cause for excommunication.

Odd as it may sound, Nixon tried to create health care legislation along with Teddy Kennedy. Nixon had strong feelings about this nation being unable to provide equal quality health care to all of it's citizens because of ability to pay.
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