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Lois Lerner of IRS: 'Lincoln should have just let the South go'
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AL.com - Lois Lerner, the embattled former Internal Revenue Service official who has come under fire for targeting conservative groups, once said President Abraham Lincoln made a mistake when he fought the Civil War to keep the southern states in the Union.

"Look my view is that Lincoln was our worst president not our best," she told a friend in March 2014, after she left the IRS, USA Today reports. "He should (have) let the South go. We really do seem to have 2 totally different mindsets."

The statements were part of a series of emails included in the Senate Finance Committee's investigation into the Lerner's tenure as IRS Director of Exempted Organizations. Republicans have accused Lerner and the IRS of targeting tax-exempt applications from conservative political groups.

The IRS has maintained that many of Lerner's emails have been lost, claims that have angered many in Congress. In all, the committee reviewed more than 1.5 million pages of Lerner's emails.

Committee report

The bipartisan Senate report highlights several instances where Lerner, who has since retired from the IRS, refers to conservative groups as "crazies" and "a__holes." Other emails show her questioning if the IRS should investigate a group that paid Bristol Palin, daughter of former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, a speaking fee.

The report shows Lerner mismanaged the applications from Tea Party organizations and fostered a hostile atmosphere within the office. Committee members disagreed as to whether the targeting was motivated by Lerner's Democratic beliefs.

"This bipartisan investigation shows gross mismanagement at the highest levels of the IRS and confirms an unacceptable truth: that the IRS is prone to abuse," said Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. "The Committee found evidence that the administration's political agenda guided the IRS's actions with respect to their treatment of conservative groups."



rfenst Offline
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So?
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In order to save the union there had to be a war and Lincoln was smart enough to let the south fire the first shot.
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tonygraz wrote:
In order to save the union there had to be a war and Lincoln was smart enough to let the south fire the first shot.



How'd that work out?
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rfenst wrote:
So?




Pretty typical of the O'Blunder camp.
teedubbya Offline
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I honestly don't give a **** what this person does or says. But apparently she told "a friend" something bad and stuff.
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Lois Lerner, just another example of a worthless attorney.
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VaMtnMan wrote:
Lois Lerner, just another example of a worthless attorney.



There you go....and one who should be behind " The Bars "
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Burner02 wrote:
Pretty typical of the O'Blunder camp.



What's more typical is his supporters, no matter what you tell them about this administrations overall behavior as facts roll out.....the usual comeback is " SO "!!
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TMCTLT wrote:
What's more typical is his supporters, no matter what you tell them about this administrations overall behavior as facts roll out.....the usual comeback is " SO "!!




That would be the case.
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teedubbya wrote:
I honestly don't give a **** what this person does or says. But apparently she told "a friend" something bad and stuff.




I don't give a **** either what one says, but when you get to a certain level you should be able to carry out your duties and responsibilities with out bias. But maybe I'm just ******* old school.
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Well as a Southerner I'm outraged!!!
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In hell, Vlad the Impaler patiently awaits the arrival of Lois Lerner.
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Good thing we don't decide that. Otherwise the two of them and GWB could be forming a power trio band.
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Mattie B wrote:
Well as a Southerner I'm outraged!!!


Not as outraged as the union was.
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teedubbya wrote:
Good thing we don't decide that. Otherwise the two of them and GWB could be forming a power trio band.



In your opinion.
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tonygraz wrote:
Not as outraged as the union was.




Not according to Lois.
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Burner02 wrote:
In your opinion.



Correct. It is my opinion no one in here determines who goes to hell and who doesn't. I guess I could be wrong.
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teedubbya wrote:
Correct. It is my opinion no one in here determines who goes to hell and who doesn't. I guess I could be wrong.


It isn't much, but short of vigilante justice calling them names and speculating on their eternal damnation is the best we can do.

The poor atheists got nothing.Not talking
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teedubbya wrote:
Good thing we don't decide that. Otherwise the two of them and GWB could be forming a power trio band.



A Duke Tumatoe reference.....Cool.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Tumatoe


If your analogy were true.....this entire administration will have the ability to form an entire brass ensemble...with BHO acting as the Composer and band leader.
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Very well could be. If it were up to us to decide not many would end up anywhere else. That's why it's not for us to decide I suppose.

Love duke and crew. Saw him many times in college and a couple years after. Listen to his I love my job cd often.

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teedubbya wrote:
Very well could be. If it were up to us to decide not many would end up anywhere else. That's why it's not for us to decide I suppose.

Love duke and crew. Saw him many times in college and a couple years after. Listen to his I love my job cd often.




We were lucky to have him as a staple around here always doing his " Lord....Help Our Colts " montage every week before and after the games. Used to see him jogging regularly on the N side years ago. I concur it's not up to us, I'd just like to know why virtually none of these law breakers @the federal level ever get prison time.
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Thanks for the Tumatoe reference, I listening to this right now: https://youtu.be/lU3rM_P7MtQ
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Reminds me that I have to pick tomatoes.
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