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What does 'Dixie' mean..??
DrafterX Offline
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who was the grassy knoll..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
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Chuck
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Think
Homebrew Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
That's why he bought a telefunken U47



With Leather.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)Beer
DrafterX Offline
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2 turntables and a telefunken U47... Mellow
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teedubbya wrote:
Remember all the crap nancy Reagan took for spending money for fine china, dresses etc. not to mention seeing psychics?

Reagan took it for being absent minded, bongo etc.

Clinton had the hit list, whitewater and a BJ.

Bush sr was always a wimp which I never understood because he was ex cia.

Ford was a clumsy oaf.

Even those running that lost got it

McCain had a black love child
Swift boating was absurd
Wasn't McGovern or someone supposedly crazy (electroshock or sumpthin)

Dirty politics has been around forever. Decent folks used to be appalled by it. Niw they willingly participate either out of ignorance (always true) or desire to win.

running mate Eagleton had been treated by a psychiatrist (depression?) and was driven out by many crazier than he was accused of being.
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teedubbya wrote:
Meh. I don't feel sorry for them. But it's also the reason we went to war. Questioning bush or the war was unpatriotic. Questioning the false information leading to the war was unpatriotic. Our weak politicians from either side would never risk being unpatriotic. Suspending our basic rights was unpatriotic.

And many in here were lock step with bush on these very things. I went from being a life long Reagan republican to a democrat in here because I questioned bush and his tactics. To do so made you a library etc. Many of the folks in here were the sheeple the accuse others of being. They know who they are.

Openly question the actions of our government is a true act of patriotism. If you care, you question and push for your view of what is right.
Saying we should not question our government is un-American.
tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Meh. I don't feel sorry for them. But it's also the reason we went to war. Questioning bush or the war was unpatriotic. Questioning the false information leading to the war was unpatriotic. Our weak politicians from either side would never risk being unpatriotic. Suspending our basic rights was unpatriotic.

And many in here were lock step with bush on these very things. I went from being a life long Reagan republican to a democrat in here because I questioned bush and his tactics. To do so made you a library etc. Many of the folks in here were the sheeple the accuse others of being. They know who they are.


What a load of crap.

Nobody was chastised for questioning anyone.
Saying things like "Bush went to war so his oil buddies could prosper" is not questioning, it's accusing.
Just like today, it is the hate-filled "that candidate can do no right" syndrome.

Bush could have cured cancer, and the lefties would cry because someone made a profit.

Likewise, Obama could raise wallstreet to new heights (!) and he'd never get the credit.


To sit there and use the 20/20 of hindsight is a feeble attempt to prop yourself up.
Sometimes it's not being a sheeple, so much as simple partisan politics as usual.

And for every disgruntled Reagan Conservative, I'll serve up TWO confused Kennedy Democrats. So stop patting yourself on the back.

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tailgater wrote:
What a load of crap.

Nobody was chastised for questioning anyone.
Saying things like "Bush went to war so his oil buddies could prosper" is not questioning, it's accusing.
Just like today, it is the hate-filled "that candidate can do no right" syndrome.

Bush could have cured cancer, and the lefties would cry because someone made a profit.

Likewise, Obama could raise wallstreet to new heights (!) and he'd never get the credit.


To sit there and use the 20/20 of hindsight is a feeble attempt to prop yourself up.
Sometimes it's not being a sheeple, so much as simple partisan politics as usual.

And for every disgruntled Reagan Conservative, I'll serve up TWO confused Kennedy Democrats. So stop patting yourself on the back.


You’re splitting hairs TG. In politics questions someone’s actions by an accusation is par for the course.

No one says “I wonder if Obamacare is good for the nation” they say “Obama is destroying the economy with Obamacare”.

It is how it is done....
DrafterX Offline
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Brewha wrote:
“Obama is destroying the economy with Obamacare”.
.



That Bassard..!! Mad
teedubbya Offline
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no hindsight involved. you can go back and read what was written back and forth in real time. There is no need to recreate or characterize it when it's out there.

And following 911 questioning Bush was considered unpatriotic by many, which was used by the administration.

I'm not sure about your kennedy, Reagan etc. comment. I still consider myself a republican. My only point was I voted for bush, figured out there was no meat on the bone when I expected powell to provide real evidence to the UN and said oh **** we got nothing. At that point I was frequently accused of not being a republican because I was outspoken against the person I voted for. I never really knew the reason Bush wanted to attack Iraq so bad, still don't, so I don't make that claim.

meh believe it or not.... it really doesn't matter. I was just comparing Uncle Teds comments to the Dixie chicks and find it interesting how unacceptable theirs was by everyone (patriotic fever) vs ted's only upsetting mealy mouthed liberals. Different times, different reactions. The patriotic fever we were in was leveraged well by the administration.
Brewha Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
That Bassard..!! Mad

d'oh!
tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
no hindsight involved. you can go back and read what was written back and forth in real time. There is no need to recreate or characterize it when it's out there.

And following 911 questioning Bush was considered unpatriotic by many, which was used by the administration.

I'm not sure about your kennedy, Reagan etc. comment. I still consider myself a republican. My only point was I voted for bush, figured out there was no meat on the bone when I expected powell to provide real evidence to the UN and said oh **** we got nothing. At that point I was frequently accused of not being a republican because I was outspoken against the person I voted for. I never really knew the reason Bush wanted to attack Iraq so bad, still don't, so I don't make that claim.

meh believe it or not.... it really doesn't matter. I was just comparing Uncle Teds comments to the Dixie chicks and find it interesting how unacceptable theirs was by everyone (patriotic fever) vs ted's only upsetting mealy mouthed liberals. Different times, different reactions. The patriotic fever we were in was leveraged well by the administration.


Who was Ted's audience?
Is Ted a top star, or a political caricature of himself?

The Dixie Chicks used the foreign audience's distaste of GWB to gain applause. It was reprehensible and low class. Poor form considering the times.

But Nugent went for the jugular and his comments are more a testament to his political leanings than they are to his current music popularity.
Face it, most artists are liberal. Uncle Ted is in stark contrast.

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TG in my neck of the woods I'll show you 50 disgruntled Conervatives to 1 Kennedy Democrat.

All of this is for show and more than a little whining over not being in power - and it happens no matter who is in office.

Although on the Obama/Wall Street thing - I think we have set a few stock market records in the last few years. Not getting much credit there, as you pointed out. Whether he deserves it or not, l'll leave to others to decide.
tailgater Offline
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
TG in my neck of the woods I'll show you 50 disgruntled Conervatives to 1 Kennedy Democrat.

All of this is for show and more than a little whining over not being in power - and it happens no matter who is in office.

Although on the Obama/Wall Street thing - I think we have set a few stock market records in the last few years. Not getting much credit there, as you pointed out. Whether he deserves it or not, l'll leave to others to decide.


Reagan Conservatives and Kennedy Democrats are interchangeable.
Everyone is proud to be one because the class doesn't exist any longer.

Kennedy was probably more conservative than most of today's GOP.

But none of that matters in an election year. Because we'll see the WORST of both parties before the winner from each steps forward and tries to shake off their partisan cloak.
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^there's no doubt about that!^
jetblasted Offline
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Wow ... A lot has sure changed in the 10+ years since The Dixie Chicks were around.

Now, just mentioning the fact you're patriotic is enough to get your name on a number of anti-government watch lists & audited by the IRS.

And, no record label would sign them using the word Dixie.
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I wish I was politically correct in Dixie

by Lewis Grizzard

I certainly agree with all those who have protested the playing of "Dixie" at Southern football games. Although slavery isn't mentioned in the song, it still makes people think of the Old South, where every white person owned African Slaves.

"Dixie" is definitely a politically incorrect piece of music. Even the word is offensive to some, and I apologize to those who are offended by my use
of it.

But I'm proud to say my alma mater, the University of Georgia, years ago rid itself of any connection with the song or there word you-know-what (see, I didn't use the word this time, as I despise offending people).

The Georgia band used to play the song at football games. But not anymore. The only place they still play the song is at the University of Mississippi. They also wave Confederate flags and they allow prayer before a football game.

I'm not certain how long it will be before members of the Speech Police move in and shut down such reprehensible behavior, but it could be any day now.

Georgia not only stopped playing the song, it even changed the name of the band, formerly knows at the Dixie Redcoat Band.
It became simply the Redcoat Band.

That prompted my stepbrother, Ludlow Porch, the famous radio talk show personality, to fire off a letter to the editor suggesting the following: "I applaud the dropping of 'Dixie' from the name of the University of Georgia band, but let us not stop there.

"How can we allow the word 'red,' which stands for communism? And the word 'redcoat' itself is an affront to the memory of all those Americans who fought against the redcoats of England in the Revolutionary War.

"And 'band.' Poncho Villa had a 'band' of desperadoes and we had to send brave young soldiers into Mexico after him. So 'band' should go, too, and that just leaves 'The,' which is a dumb name for a large number of musicians, so I guess they're just out of a name altogether."

I believe if we really try we can wipe away all symbols of the Old South forever. There's a company in Savannah that makes Dixie Crystal Sugar. Sorry, it's just Crystal Sugar from now on, and don't give me any grief about it.

And there's even a Dixie Highway in the South. It should be referred to from now on only as Highway. As in, "Well, you take Highway, then go down three blocks and…" There are even some people named Dixie, believe it or not. They will have to go by their middle names. And if anybody named Dixie lives on Dixie Highway, the Speech Police will likely demand they be shot.

And if the song and word "Dixie" are symbolic of the Old South, I guess we ought to stop using "Old South" as well. Instead of saying "Old South", perhaps we can refer to it as "Back Then," and we can roll our eyes when we use it so everybody will know we aren't talking about when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, but when slaveholders used to go around singing songs like "Dixie" and "Eating Goober Peas."

But wait. "Eating Goober Peas" is a song from Back Then, too, so don't anybody dare play that at a football game.


Rap songs about killing innocent people, incidentally, are just fine.
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tailgater wrote:
Reagan Conservatives and Kennedy Democrats are interchangeable.
Everyone is proud to be one because the class doesn't exist any longer.

Kennedy was probably more conservative than most of today's GOP.

But none of that matters in an election year. Because we'll see the WORST of both parties before the winner from each steps forward and tries to shake off their partisan cloak.

Reagan proudly identified as a Kennedy Democrat before his registering with the GOP...back when things got done.

edit: meaning that it was possible to side with the other side issue by issue. Today, it's political suicide. Party over country is the current mantra.

Interesting that I mentioned cure for cancer in much the same way you did in a recent thread, but I referenced Obama!
No wonder we get along.
tonygraz Online
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I knew a girl named Dixie, my ex-brother in law had the hots for her.
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didn't read every post, hope I'm not repeating but doesn't dixie, as a verb, also mean to get rid of or to quit something, to dispose of?
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tonygraz wrote:
I knew a girl named Dixie, my ex-brother in law had the hots for her.

Was her last name Normous?
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Brewha wrote:
Was her last name Normous?

wait. Aren't you Dixie Normous?
Brewha Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
wait. Aren't you Dixie Normous?

I don't go by that name here on the advice of Drafter.

He's kind of the forum sage, you know...
tonygraz Online
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No, but she was a bit too big for me to like.
tailgater Offline
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Yeah. Poor form to date a chick with a bigger ****** than you...
tonygraz Online
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Is that the voice of experience ?
tailgater Offline
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I know you are, but what am I?





























Brewha Offline
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Frightfully sharp banter and repartee….
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Whatcha expect from the Brady bunch.
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All the stations up here don't sign off with Dixie
The way they did in sweet home Alabama
The people here don't sip Jack Daniels whiskey
The way they do in that Tennessee mountain land

I've always heard lots about the big apple
So I thought I'd come up here and see
But all I've seen so far is one big hassle
Wish I was camped out on the Okeechobee

If this is the promised land, I've had all I can stand
And I'm headed back below that Dixie line
Well I just don't fit in and I'll never come back again
I'm busted here with Dixie on my mind
Oh, I'm stuck up here and I got Dixie on my mind

These people never smile or say a word
They're all too busy tryin' to make an extra dime
Oh, I'd love to haul 'em all down around Spartanburg
And show 'em how to raise hell in Carolina

Oh, the things you know that I miss most of all
Is the freedom of the rivers and the pines
They don't do much huntin' and fishin' up here, ya know
But I have met a few squirrels and one porcupine

If this is the promised land, I've had all I can stand
Wish I was down in Houston town tonight
Well I just don't fit in and I'll never come back again
I'm busted here with Dixie on my mind
Oh, I'm stuck up here and I got Dixie on my mind

_____________________________________________________


Hey porter, hey porter would you tell me the time?
How much longer will it be till we cross that Mason Dixon line?
At daylight would ya tell that engineer to slow it down?
Or better still, just stop the train 'cause I wanna look around

Hey porter, hey porter what time did ya say?
How much longer will it be till I can see the light of day?
When we hit Dixie will you tell that engineer to ring his bell?
And ask everybody that ain't asleep to stand right up and yell

Hey porter, hey porter it's getting light outside
This old train is puffin' smoke and I have to strain my eyes
But ask that engineer if he will blow his whistle please
I smell frost on cotton leaves and I feel that southern breeze

Hey porter, hey porter please get my bags for me
I need nobody to tell me now that we're in Tennessee
Go tell that engineer to make that lonesome whistle scream
We're gettin' close from home so take it easy on the steam

Hey porter, hey porter please open up the door
When they stop the train I'm gonna get off first 'cause I can't wait no more
Tell that engineer I said thanks allot and I didn't mind the fare
Gonna set my feet on southern soil and breathe that southern air

tailgater Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Frightfully sharp banter and repartee….


Alas, it is discouraging to see that you don't see the irony in my previous post, as I merely spelled out what Tony was doing. Although I'm not convinced he recognizes it either.





tonygraz Online
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I was tempted to respond, but the writing on the wall told me not to. So I just went off and left you whistling Dixie.
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tonygraz wrote:
I was tempted to respond, but the writing on the wall told me not to. So I just went off and left you whistling Dixie.


Well played.
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