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Clinton Benghazi Hearing on Al Jazeera America
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rfenst Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 10:39 AM EST
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C-Span coverage sucks!
mikey1597 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 10:49 AM EST
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Got it live with Washington Wire. Hilldog is full of schitt.
Speyside Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 10:50 AM EST
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I have been pleasantly surprised with All Jazeera Americas news coverage.
rfenst Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 10:54 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I have been pleasantly surprised with All Jazeera Americas news coverage.


agreed
SmokeMonkey Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 11:01 AM EST
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I haven't watched, but I hear good things about them.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 11:01 AM EST
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Has she taken the 5th yet..?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 11:30 AM EST
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Why do you hate America ?
teddyballgame Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 11:42 AM EST
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why don't the Democrats want to find out what happened in Benghazi?

Your party goes on and on about 18 min of missing Watergate tapes.

You have 7-8 hours unaccounted for by Clinton for brains and your dear president.

He took the call, went to sleep and then flew to Vegas for a fundraiser, while 4 people died.
dstieger Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 11:46 AM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
while 4 people died.



Admittedly, I haven't paid much attention to Benghazi stuff.....and my memory is foggy...Were the 4 people killed by firearms?
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 11:47 AM EST
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I believe Ambassador Stevens was raped multiple times then burned.
rfenst Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 12:20 PM EST
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Rs are not looking too good (which is not to say Hillary is).
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 12:25 PM EST
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Ate lunch in my car so I could listen... what a mess... d'oh!
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 1:48 PM EST
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Elijah isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 2:52 PM EST
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well, he was a prophet and stuff... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:01 PM EST
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If this is a witch hunt they certainly found one.
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:06 PM EST
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That aside this is just a side show. There's nothing there to get at. Never has been. There's just about as much meat as the birther thing.

Pure politics.
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:23 PM EST
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Yeah except that whole illegal arms sales n stuff, but it's only bad when Ronnie did it.
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:24 PM EST
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I liked when Ronnie did it. I don't see it as clearly as you do though.
teedubbya Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:27 PM EST
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I think it's funny the same folks that call Ollie a great American would get upset about that particular allegation. My amusement comes from the other direction. If I take no issue with Ronnie I should take no issue when it's not my guy if I want to pretend to be objective. That and the whole proof thing.
jackconrad Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:52 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I believe Ambassador Stevens was raped multiple times then burned.


And Dragged around the town behind a truck..
teedubbya Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 4:57 PM EST
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I bet it was a Chevy.
teddyballgame Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:08 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I bet it was a Chevy.


That ain't humorous. Making light of a guy brutally abused and killed while the idiot sticks in office did nothing.


..but nothing to see here- "nothing there to get at", according to you.. who cares about the 4 dead Americans that could have been helped? Just let big government abuse go.

So the big huge 1300 page and 900 page document dump of Steven's emails right before the hearing doesn't mean anything. Nothing to see here, please move on.

This is a huge scandal and it dwarfs anything the left side could hope Watergate could be.

From now on, the government scandals should be called "fill in the blank- ghazi"

For instance, New Jersey's "Bridge-gate" should be "Bridge-ghazi."
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:12 PM EST
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Get over it. We joke about worse in here all the time. I'll move in to dead baby jokes next. Don't like it? Meh.

I hate Hillary. I could certainly never vote for her. I don't trust her and think she is slimy. My party is actually making her look better with these tactics.

Your outrage is duly noted however lol.
teddyballgame Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:13 PM EST
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duly noted?

well as long as it is duly noted then we are all good.
teddyballgame Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:15 PM EST
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teed, who is your guy on the Republican side? If you say Bush I am gonna kick you in the pills
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:16 PM EST
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I do hope we minimize the use of impeachments and hearings to influence presidential elections or to cripple the other teams guy when they get elected. I know it's niece but I'm an optimist.

It reminds me of line item veto. My party wanted it desperately and the demos kept killing it. I'm sure glad the big o didn't have it. His executive orders alone were bad juju. Can you imagine?
teedubbya Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:20 PM EST
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Dude I'll tell you later but ask around here if anyone thinks I like Bush lol.

Hint - I honestly don't like anyone currently running from either party but am narrowing down towards one I may plug my nose and vote for..... Although they won't win.

I sort of liked huntsman last time but that was hopeless. He was smart and didn't join the crap parade.

teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:21 PM EST
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And your apology is accepted.
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:21 PM EST
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Besides Chevys are purpose built for killing.
teddyballgame Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:25 PM EST
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those terrorists prefer toyotas
teedubbya Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:27 PM EST
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They must modify them because Chevys are the ones designed from the ground up to kill. It's why they are built.

Huntsman -

"I will not be attending this year's convention, nor any Republican convention in the future until the party focuses on a bigger, bolder, more confident future for the United States — a future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as our fiscal and economic deficits."
teedubbya Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 5:30 PM EST
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I don't like the demogoging (sp?) and how both sides just crap on each other (and their own) without really proposing any legitimate plans or solutions. I will not vote for anyone from that cloth (like Cruz). Ronnie was positive for the most part.
teedubbya Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 8:01 PM EST
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Dirty politics.
ZRX1200 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 8:51 PM EST
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Like hiding witnesses and releasing thousands of emails two days before the hearing?

Oh and firing generals who were directly involved with the area in question.
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 8:56 PM EST
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And she didn't bring her birth certificate!

I hate her but this was absurd and had nothing to do with finding out about Benghazi. The republicans are the only ones that could make her look almost sympathetic. They over played their hand and it was obvious.
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 8:59 PM EST
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They just took a hit with independents would be my guess.
banderl Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 9:12 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
They just took a hit with independents would be my guess.



Agreed, it will be interesting to see how much of a bounce in the polls that she gets from this.
DrafterX Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 9:30 PM EST
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I dunno if she'll get a bump or not... but she won't lose anything... her followers don't care if she lied when people died... Mellow
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#39 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 9:59 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Dude I'll tell you later but ask around here if anyone thinks I like Bush lol.



closet exit?
teddyballgame Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2015, 10:38 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
.. her followers don't care if she lied when people died... Mellow



+1 to that.


And to say this is a witch hunt (no pun intended) is foolish.

4 people died. Hillary was Sec of State and didn't get any of the 600 requests for more security, yet she got emails from her friend on the matter and those found their way to her desk, even though her buddy wasn't in Benghazi?

Yes.. nothing here, another "right wing conspiracy."

Independents dislike and distrust Hillary, and seeing her with that smug look on her face ain't gonna change that. We are all peons anyway in her eyes- she just can't hide it like hubby did.
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#41 Posted: Fri, Oct 23 2015, 12:19 AM EST
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What a load of bullsh|t!!!
I've never heard so much blame put on "security professionals" (which shall not be named) of which Hilldog was never briefed in all the morning briefings she clamored she was briefed about.

The statement that we where in Benghazi in a "temporary" capacity to access the situation after a number of other agencies (including non-profits) pulled-out while the US dumped millions into securing the location is nothing more than a smoke screen to cover the alleged illegal arms sales. It sounds more like the "coup" the US was attempting in "national interests" to take Moammar Kadafi out back-fired like it did in Chile on 9/11/73. Is it ironic or coincidental that these anniversaries all fall on the same date - 9/11? It's odd that Cuban relations where started again (for what political gain) after Benghazi? Is it ironic or coincidental that Hilldog was also involved in bringing-down Nixon who orchestrated the Chile coup. If anything, Hilldog has mastered her way to bullsh|t through the political system.

It's also funny how she still blames it all on a video, and still condones Rice's appearances on 5 News programs.

Lies, lies, and more lies. We will never know the truth of why we where there, or what really happened. The public does not pass the 'confidential clearance" of knowing in the matter of "national security".

Let me put my elbow on the table, rest my head against my palm, and look like I care what's being discussed or questioned. The Clintons carry more baggage than all the airlines combined.
teedubbya Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Oct 23 2015, 7:21 AM EST
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I can watch a team I like and be critical of how they are playing. I can watch one I dislike and recognize they are kicking ass.

There is nothing here and the republicans are over playing their hand. They looked foolish and partisan and really look like they are the ones politicizing these deaths.
rfenst Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Oct 23 2015, 7:32 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I can watch a team I like and be critical of how they are playing. I can watch one I dislike and recognize they are kicking ass.

There is nothing here and the republicans are over playing their hand. They looked foolish and partisan and really look like they are the ones politicizing these deaths.


+1
teedubbya Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Oct 23 2015, 7:40 AM EST
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When Powell went to the UN I expected and wanted him to show proof and rationale to go in to Iraq. He had nothing. It was an oh **** moment. This is another. There is nothing there. You want there to be but there isn't.

I think I saw something like 75% of independents thought this was a partisan attack by the Republicans prior to this hearing. If that's the case this clearly reinforced that. It was a bad play and the Republicans looked silly even to some of us that we're rooting for them. I know the polls are biased just like they were when they suggested the big O would win.

History will look unkindly to a party trying to tear apart another party's candidate through 11 hours of testimony like this with questions that clearly were not intended to make things better or find out what really happened. It reminds me so much of Iraq when folks want to believe something and nothing can convince them differently. Birther issue same thing.

The Republicans are playing in to her hands. Personally I think/thought/hoped she is/was unelectable. The Republicans sure made themselves look bad and her look good. Hopefully that doesn't translate to the one on one match up. Only the republicans could get her elected and they sure are trying to.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Oct 23 2015, 7:57 AM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIdVXsqsOog - As a Presidential Candidate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3RfxNJBArU - As Secretary of State

Talk about BULL ****!

The WHORE can't keep her own lies straight

Let's really face the facts...this administration got busted running guns...again!

Like it always does...it costs lives.

She is unfit, because she cannot tell the truth...EVER!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFFleTc_fKo - The 60 Minutes take on it...from more than one set of eyeballs that was on the ground there while it happened!
MACS Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Oct 29 2015, 4:20 PM EST
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Things I trust more than Hillary Clinton

* Mexican tap water
* A rattlesnake with a "pet me" sign
* OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection
* A fart when I have diarrhea
* An elevator ride with Ray Rice
* Taking pills offered by Bill Cosby
* A Palestinian on a motorcycle
* Gas station Sushi
* Brian Williams news reports
* Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton

The last time she had a meaningful job, she outsourced it to Monica Lewinsky.
DrafterX Offline
#47 Posted: Thu, Oct 29 2015, 4:23 PM EST
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I heard she has a confeferate flag in here office.... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, Oct 29 2015, 6:41 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard she has a confeferate flag in here office.... Mellow


I heard that too. Not talking
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