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tonygraz Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2015, 9:01 PM EST
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The proposed omnibus budget calls for 1.1 trillion is spending. 548 billion defense plus 73.7 billion for ongoing combat ops- that's a total of 621.7 billion or 56.5% of the budget.

I guess Rubio hasn't been paying attention as he stated the shrinking size of our navy and air force in last night's debate or he may just want to spend a lot more.
banderl Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2015, 9:37 PM EST
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They need to cut some of that back, there's a lot of waste there.
gummy jones Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2015, 10:07 PM EST
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When it has bipartisan support you can count on it increasing spending and adding more debt

But I have grown to expect no less out of our ruling class
tonygraz Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2015, 11:49 PM EST
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Some of the crap I've seen the government overpay for. If we could only cut overpaying and waste.
Mikekoz13 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Dec 17 2015, 11:55 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Some of the crap I've seen the government overpay for. If we could only cut overpaying and waste.


I agree.
Things like "generational poverty" where generations of healthy people sit on their asses and collect "their checks".
Or paying to house and feed "illegal immigrants" (I prefer to call them invaders and they should be dealt with accordingly).
Or the misuse of Social Security funds.
Or....
TMCTLT Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 10:57 AM EST
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Mikekoz13 wrote:
I agree.
Things like "generational poverty" where generations of healthy people sit on their asses and collect "their checks".
Or paying to house and feed "illegal immigrants" (I prefer to call them invaders and they should be dealt with accordingly).
Or the misuse of Social Security funds.
Or....



And the list goes on.....well said brother Mike

For those interested in knowing how your elected officials voted on this Bloated Spending Bill.....


https://www.conservativereview.com/votes/s3361142015?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=trillion-dollar-budget
tailgater Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 11:04 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
They need to cut some of that back, there's a lot of waste there.


Did you snopes this?
banderl Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 11:46 AM EST
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Mikekoz13 wrote:
I agree.
Things like "generational poverty" where generations of healthy people sit on their asses and collect "their checks".
Or paying to house and feed "illegal immigrants" (I prefer to call them invaders and they should be dealt with accordingly).
Or the misuse of Social Security funds.
Or....



No mention of the DOD's 40 million dollar CNG station in the desert?

For TG too.
TMCTLT Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 11:55 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
No mention of the DOD's 40 million dollar CNG station in the desert?

For TG too.



Chump change in comparison to what Mike had listed....CHUMP CHANGE.


Executive Summary

Unlawful immigration and amnesty for current unlawful immigrants can pose large fiscal costs for U.S. taxpayers. Government provides four types of benefits and services that are relevant to this issue:

Direct benefits. These include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and workers’ compensation.
Means-tested welfare benefits. There are over 80 of these programs which, at a cost of nearly $900 billion per year, provide cash, food, housing, medical, and other services to roughly 100 million low-income Americans. Major programs include Medicaid, food stamps, the refundable Earned Income Tax Credit, public housing, Supplemental Security Income, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.
Public education. At a cost of $12,300 per pupil per year, these services are largely free or heavily subsidized for low-income parents.
Population-based services. Police, fire, highways, parks, and similar services, as the National Academy of Sciences determined in its study of the fiscal costs of immigration, generally have to expand as new immigrants enter a community; someone has to bear the cost of that expansion.
Brewha Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 11:56 AM EST
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Mikekoz13 wrote:
I agree.
Things like "generational poverty" where generations of healthy people sit on their asses and collect "their checks".
Or paying to house and feed "illegal immigrants" (I prefer to call them invaders and they should be dealt with accordingly).
Or the misuse of Social Security funds.
Or....

These of course are trifles compared to corporate welfare and the 6% tribute we pay to the private owners of our money, called the Fed.

What do you mean by misuse of SS funds?


But the real issue is that we spend far and away too much on our military. We spend more than the next seven biggest spending countries combined.
bgz Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 1:13 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Some of the crap I've seen the government overpay for. If we could only cut overpaying and waste.


Holy chit, I agree with tonygraz on something.

There are policies in place that promote wasteful spending across the board. One such policy is if a department doesn't use their entire budget, then their budget for the next year will get cut.

This forces departments to spend their allocated money or lose it. Very wasteful.
banderl Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 1:21 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Chump change in comparison to what Mike had listed....CHUMP CHANGE.


Executive Summary

Unlawful immigration and amnesty for current unlawful immigrants can pose large fiscal costs for U.S. taxpayers. Government provides four types of benefits and services that are relevant to this issue:

Direct benefits. These include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and workers’ compensation.
Means-tested welfare benefits. There are over 80 of these programs which, at a cost of nearly $900 billion per year, provide cash, food, housing, medical, and other services to roughly 100 million low-income Americans. Major programs include Medicaid, food stamps, the refundable Earned Income Tax Credit, public housing, Supplemental Security Income, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.
Public education. At a cost of $12,300 per pupil per year, these services are largely free or heavily subsidized for low-income parents.
Population-based services. Police, fire, highways, parks, and similar services, as the National Academy of Sciences determined in its study of the fiscal costs of immigration, generally have to expand as new immigrants enter a community; someone has to bear the cost of that expansion.



Did you write that?
Or is that taken from your daily RWNJ talking point e-mail?

How much of that is WASTE?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 1:45 PM EST
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Cuban Pete Rubio couldn't even make it back to vote!

He wants to be El Presidente!
banderl Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 2:46 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Cuban Pete Rubio couldn't even make it back to vote!

He wants to be El Presidente!



Lay off our Cooban friend.
He's too busy!
Mikekoz13 Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 3:52 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:


What do you mean by misuse of SS funds?


Most of us have heard the stories over the years. A quick Google search gives us WAY more than we would care to know or read about how our monies are being abused and misused.

And yes our military budget is bloated. I work in the industry so I know.
TMCTLT Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 3:59 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Did you write that?
Or is that taken from your daily RWNJ talking point e-mail?

How much of that is WASTE?



I was certain you'd like those numbers!!!!

And how much of your DOD project you cited is considered waste? @least we as taxpayers get something in return from the DOD. I'm sorry your right though...it wasn't from MSNBC or pick your favorite LWNJ publications
banderl Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 4:55 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
I was certain you'd like those numbers!!!!

And how much of your DOD project you cited is considered waste? @least we as taxpayers get something in return from the DOD. I'm sorry your right though...it wasn't from MSNBC or pick your favorite LWNJ publications



Sorry I don't watch MSNBC or subscribe to any political info.
So you are stating that the programs "you" mentioned in your plagiarized piece have a 100% waste factor?
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 5:08 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
No mention of the DOD's 40 million dollar CNG station in the desert?

For TG too.


Waste in the federal budget?
Next you'll tell us that politicians lie and I'll have none of that dear sir!
banderl Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 5:32 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Waste in the federal budget?
Next you'll tell us that politicians lie and I'll have none of that dear sir!






Then what would be the point of hanging out here?
Brewha Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 5:50 PM EST
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Mikekoz13 wrote:
Most of us have heard the stories over the years. A quick Google search gives us WAY more than we would care to know or read about how our monies are being abused and misused.

And yes our military budget is bloated. I work in the industry so I know.



Well, at least you'er not putting too fine a point on that.....
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 6:34 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Then what would be the point of hanging out here?


I once got banned for hanging out here...
banderl Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 6:56 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I once got banned for hanging out here...




Just for hanging out?
Like lurking?
Surely, you must of said something offensive.
MACS Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2015, 10:01 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
They need to cut some of that back, there's a lot of waste there.


You don't know the half of it.
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 7:59 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
Just for hanging out?
Like lurking?
Surely, you must of said something offensive.


A. Never been banned. Just a sternly written letter warning me.
B. This is CBid. "Hanging out" was an attempt at suggestive sophomoric humor. Ask TW. He'll explain it to you. But be careful, or he'll use pictures to make his, uh, point.
C. The pictures are not me.
tonygraz Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 8:09 AM EST
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I knew B - but I wasn't touching it. You're not worthy till you've been banned somewhere.
TMCTLT Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 8:20 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
Then what would be the point of hanging out here?




There is NO point.....for ANY of us. The Only power we " had " was our vote during elections, now they don't even pay attention to that. Everyone thought we might see change after the 2010 and 2014 mid-terms....and look how that worked out. Ryan is just another Boehner LITE....( he prolly won't cry as much though )
teedubbya Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 2:23 PM EST
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If you are someone who access your way and your view only our system of government must suck with all the comprise and stuff.
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 4:40 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If you are someone who access your way and your view only our system of government must suck with all the comprise and stuff.


First day with the English language?
tonygraz Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 5:28 PM EST
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Sometimes you need to read things twice. I think it was meant to confuse TCBY.
Brewha Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2015, 5:44 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If you are someone who access your way and your view only our system of government must suck with all the comprise and stuff.

TW, TMC wrote work with passion and moisture replete cognition of heart felt burn. There is no cause for sinusoidal repleneration or small bits of dry toast without marmalade oil. Drink not from the well that pours only time in amorality disenchanted by the lurch of bygones in front of the watershed.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2015, 1:10 PM EST
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^word.
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2015, 1:15 PM EST
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...that was pretty awesome.
dstieger Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2015, 1:20 PM EST
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Makes more sense than 96.2% of the other posts here in Politics
TMCTLT Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2015, 2:11 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
First day with the English language?



Or....drunk??
gummy jones Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2015, 2:55 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Or....drunk??


cheers
frankj1 Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2015, 4:45 PM EST
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HA!
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