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frankj1 Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 10:15 PM EST
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Hillary has to pizz. But this is by far the greatest debate of all.

We'll be back after these words from big pharma and wall street.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 10:20 PM EST
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She must have an STD... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 10:26 PM EST
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too bad about the socialist tag cuz Bernie seems to understand the problems better than anyone...though you could argue with his cures.
But he is kicking AZZ tonight!
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 10:50 PM EST
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Good to hear... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 10:59 PM EST
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So, do we really want a President that has to take a tinkle break when it's time to push the red button..?? That's the question we need to ask the American peoples... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 11:26 PM EST
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So do you want to require prostate exams for all the males running ?
sd72 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 11:26 PM EST
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Her little red button or THE red button?
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jan 17 2016, 11:27 PM EST
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Doesn't Obama-care already do that..?? Huh
cacman Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:04 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Doesn't Obama-care already do that..?? Huh

Remember… the people that passed the law don't have to participate like everyone else.
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:03 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
So do you want to require prostate exams for all the males running ?


You volunteering?
teddyballgame Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:15 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
too bad about the socialist tag cuz Bernie seems to understand the problems better than anyone...though you could argue with his cures.
But he is kicking AZZ tonight!



Well, Bernie is proud of being a socialist. He proudly proclaimed he is a democratic socialist. He was also a member of the young people's socialist league when he was going to college in Chicago.
So it is a "tag" he put on himself. It actually should be Marxist.

(By the way, what is with Chicago and its universities spitting out Marxists and socialists?)


So you are one of the 10 people that watched this debate? Such a good time slot, Sunday when football playoffs are going on during a 3 day weekend.
gummy jones Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:21 PM EST
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i have to admit i had no clue there was a democrat debate

did that third guy show up?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:55 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
i have to admit i had no clue there was a democrat debate

did that third guy show up?



Yes he did...he just needs to be told that he's not ever going to win.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 2:01 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
So you are one of the 10 people that watched this debate? Such a good time slot, Sunday when football playoffs are going on during a 3 day weekend.



Make that 11.

I'd rather watch the debates than the games that were on. The debates matter to a degree as we're selecting a leader that will represent the US not some spoiled turf toed athlete owned by a billionaire master that tells him what uniform to wear. Meanwhile, a host of delusional people wearing jerseys that can't run the length of a football field because the chicken wings might get cold are tuned in to that charade thinking that the outcome matters. Its a game!

You can place the blame on The Whore's personal toady for selecting how many debates and when they were scheduled. She's been a placeholder in the DNC ever since the Kenyan King's coronation. She's enabled The Whore and denied everyone else. You'd think people would be asking for her resignation because of her closeness to the Clinton's but nobody is.
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#15 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 2:44 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yes he did...he just needs to be told that he's not ever going to win.


well i think its time to say the same thing to most of the repubs as well
teddyballgame Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 3:01 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Make that 11.
.




So, "Ours goes to 11"
tonygraz Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 3:37 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:

... You'd think people would be asking for her resignation because of her closeness to the Clinton's but nobody is.


Yes they are - just not broadcast much.
MACS Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 3:48 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
So you are one of the 10 people that watched this debate? Such a good time slot, Sunday when football playoffs are going on during a 3 day weekend.


http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/final-thoughts-dnc-come-play/
DrMaddVibe Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 7:09 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/final-thoughts-dnc-come-play/



I blame Glenn Beck for ramping up the insanity in the GOP and America.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 9:27 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
well i think its time to say the same thing to most of the repubs as well



MOST????

They're ALL insane!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 9:30 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
So you are one of the 10 people that watched this debate?


http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/democratic-debate-delivers-10-2-million-viewers-to-nbc/282426
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 10:37 PM EST
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My friend Teddyballgame,

10 mil and me. I had some mild interest in hearing those who might possibly be the next President of the USA, cuz no one on the GOP side (who could have easily stolen my vote) will see the need to make anything different. Forget Cruz, he's a lightweight, has some stuff you agree with philosophically, but is basically the same thing only different. But he ain't identifying nothing, never mind fixing.

That, and the games had ended. What were you watching? HA!

I look at it this way re: Bernie. Most people's research begins and ends with the word "Socialist", and it is undeniable, but it is an adjective, not an obsession. So Marketing 101...mission accomplished, no need to hear one frigging word he says. Lazy Americans resulting in more high office holders owned by the very people that have caused most of what ails us like Wall Street eg.

Never mind his solutions, though you would like some, but he is the ONLY candidate (now that Paul has been marginalized by his own team) unencumbered and correctly identifying what is broken.

I want the problems being screamed at full volume until the national debate is how to fix, rather than burying the reasons. 4 or 8 more years of anyone else will not do it.

Find what he said last night about what is wrong. Then all of us can debate what to do. He was great last night, the best performance on either side to date.

And don't worry about socialism. Nothing that left will ever get passed through Congress.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 11:01 AM EST
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^ I can agree with most of that except the last sentence.
ZRX1200 Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 11:03 AM EST
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I would addo though, Bern took the teeth right out of the audit the fed action.....so this whole outsider bringing down the man thing isn't as genuine as some believe.
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 12:56 PM EST
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politics makes strange bedfellows, but I still won't sleep in the van...any chance it's a double-wide though?
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2016, 3:37 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
My friend Teddyballgame,

10 mil and me. I had some mild interest in hearing those who might possibly be the next President of the USA, cuz no one on the GOP side (who could have easily stolen my vote) will see the need to make anything different. Forget Cruz, he's a lightweight, has some stuff you agree with philosophically, but is basically the same thing only different. But he ain't identifying nothing, never mind fixing.

That, and the games had ended. What were you watching? HA!

I look at it this way re: Bernie. Most people's research begins and ends with the word "Socialist", and it is undeniable, but it is an adjective, not an obsession. So Marketing 101...mission accomplished, no need to hear one frigging word he says. Lazy Americans resulting in more high office holders owned by the very people that have caused most of what ails us like Wall Street eg.

Never mind his solutions, though you would like some, but he is the ONLY candidate (now that Paul has been marginalized by his own team) unencumbered and correctly identifying what is broken.

I want the problems being screamed at full volume until the national debate is how to fix, rather than burying the reasons. 4 or 8 more years of anyone else will not do it.

Find what he said last night about what is wrong. Then all of us can debate what to do. He was great last night, the best performance on either side to date.

And don't worry about socialism. Nothing that left will ever get passed through Congress.


"don't worry about socialism"
Famous last words.

We can't ignore "socialist" as an adjective any more than we could ignore "racist". It need not be an obsession to be a concern.

Reparations alone is reason to be afraid of Bernie. Add to that his expanded medicare health solution and everyone thinks their HC costs are going to drop yet services remain the same.
You know. Because the federal government is the most adept at handling such an institution efficiently.
You know. Like they always do...
MACS Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2016, 4:19 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
politics makes strange bedfellows, but I still won't sleep in the van...any chance it's a double-wide though?


Chicken... buck-buGAWK!!
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2016, 4:34 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Chicken... buck-buGAWK!!



Think
What is Bloody taking a chiken for a walk Alex... Mellow
teddyballgame Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2016, 6:18 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
"don't worry about socialism"
Famous last words.

We can't ignore "socialist" as an adjective any more than we could ignore "racist". It need not be an obsession to be a concern.

Reparations alone is reason to be afraid of Bernie. Add to that his expanded medicare health solution and everyone thinks their HC costs are going to drop yet services remain the same.
You know. Because the federal government is the most adept at handling such an institution efficiently.
You know. Like they always do...




Oh you and your "logic."
Covfireman Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 6:28 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
"don't worry about socialism"
Famous last words.

We can't ignore "socialist" as an adjective any more than we could ignore "racist". It need not be an obsession to be a concern.

Reparations alone is reason to be afraid of Bernie. Add to that his expanded medicare health solution and everyone thinks their HC costs are going to drop yet services remain the same.
You know. Because the federal government is the most adept at handling such an institution efficiently.
You know. Like they always do...




What position on reparations? Or did you confuse your r words ? Perhaps you meant repatriation?
jpotts Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 2:34 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
My friend Teddyballgame,

10 mil and me. I had some mild interest in hearing those who might possibly be the next President of the USA, cuz no one on the GOP side (who could have easily stolen my vote) will see the need to make anything different. Forget Cruz, he's a lightweight, has some stuff you agree with philosophically, but is basically the same thing only different. But he ain't identifying nothing, never mind fixing.

That, and the games had ended. What were you watching? HA!

I look at it this way re: Bernie. Most people's research begins and ends with the word "Socialist", and it is undeniable, but it is an adjective, not an obsession. So Marketing 101...mission accomplished, no need to hear one frigging word he says. Lazy Americans resulting in more high office holders owned by the very people that have caused most of what ails us like Wall Street eg.

Never mind his solutions, though you would like some, but he is the ONLY candidate (now that Paul has been marginalized by his own team) unencumbered and correctly identifying what is broken.

I want the problems being screamed at full volume until the national debate is how to fix, rather than burying the reasons. 4 or 8 more years of anyone else will not do it.

Find what he said last night about what is wrong. Then all of us can debate what to do. He was great last night, the best performance on either side to date.

And don't worry about socialism. Nothing that left will ever get passed through Congress.


LOL. What a stooge.

Big Banks are the blame, is basically Bernie's schtick. And you know whose been knee deep in the financial system? government. Specifically progressives. Making things "fair."

And the brain-dead of this society keep falling for the same ploy. Some "good guy" talks about evil Wall Street for more control. They implement a bunch of idiotic "social reforms" and things get even worse. And people like you fall for it every...single...time.

Socialists like Bernie are a pox on humanity. It's because despite the moniker "democratic" in their title, they HATE free choice. They don't like people making their own decisions about their lives. No socialist does. Because socialism is all about central control of people's lives. Hence the word "social" in the name.

So Bernie is a fraud. And he's a fraud who has been in government or decades, calling the people who have created the majority of this mess his "friends" and "colleagues". No criticism of them, and their apparent failure to do what they said they'd do. No, for Bernie it's still the same evil villain.

And let's be honest, shall we? The only reason this guy is getting any traction is because Hillary is running.
tonygraz Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 4:01 PM EST
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If you really want to be honest, you would say that Bernie is the only one that's not a fraud. The big banks and Wall street nearly put us in a depression and will do so again if they are left to run rampant. If anyone hates free choice it's the republicans- they specialize in hate and are owned by big money. Bernie has lots of good ideas that could swing this country back to a democracy rather that the current kakocracy.
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#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 5:00 PM EST
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Bernie has a some good ideas. However...... who's paying for everything he wants to give away? He also said he would disarm all cops... That's simply stupid.

Not a fan of Bernie.. Not a big fan of any of the candidates.
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#34 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 6:06 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
If you really want to be honest, you would say that Bernie is the only one that's not a fraud. The big banks and Wall street nearly put us in a depression and will do so again if they are left to run rampant. If anyone hates free choice it's the republicans- they specialize in hate and are owned by big money. Bernie has lots of good ideas that could swing this country back to a democracy rather that the current kakocracy.





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gummy jones Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 7:19 PM EST
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the only thing centralized government is good at is spending other peoples money

the socialism already rampant in our country has us starting each fiscal year in the red

take a look at venezuela and their 750% inflation or everywhere in europe except germany and you see what socialism gets you

its great for the folks on top but everyone else who buys in (literally) on a hope and a prayer not so much.

our society loves to look for boogie men to blame for everything - the rich, the racists, the Christians, the cops, etc

couldn't possibly have anything to do with the coarsening of our culture, break down of the family and the rising dependent class who isn't even pretending to look for a job (yay 5% unemployment)

you want to see things get even worse then scare some more job creators into keeping more money offshore or fleeing the country
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#36 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 7:29 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
If you really want to be honest, you would say that Bernie is the only one that's not a fraud. .



LOL LOL LOL
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 7:33 PM EST
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Mainstream Media wrote:
If you really want to be honest, you would say that Bernie is the only one that's not a fraud. The big banks and Wall street nearly put us in a depression and will do so again if they are left to run rampant. If anyone hates free choice it's the republicans- they specialize in hate and are owned by big money. Bernie has lots of good ideas that could swing this country back to a democracy rather that the current kakocracy.
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#38 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 8:30 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
LOL. What a stooge.

Big Banks are the blame, is basically Bernie's schtick. And you know whose been knee deep in the financial system? government. Specifically progressives. Making things "fair."

And the brain-dead of this society keep falling for the same ploy. Some "good guy" talks about evil Wall Street for more control. They implement a bunch of idiotic "social reforms" and things get even worse. And people like you fall for it every...single...time.

Socialists like Bernie are a pox on humanity. It's because despite the moniker "democratic" in their title, they HATE free choice. They don't like people making their own decisions about their lives. No socialist does. Because socialism is all about central control of people's lives. Hence the word "social" in the name.

So Bernie is a fraud. And he's a fraud who has been in government or decades, calling the people who have created the majority of this mess his "friends" and "colleagues". No criticism of them, and their apparent failure to do what they said they'd do. No, for Bernie it's still the same evil villain.

And let's be honest, shall we? The only reason this guy is getting any traction is because Hillary is running.



funny getting a poli-sci explanation from the genius who thinks Hitler was a commie! Love that you think you know what I think when you don't understand what I say.

here are a few edited highlights from what you were unable to comprehend...

I wrote:
"I look at it this way re: Bernie. Most people's research begins and ends with the word "Socialist", and it is undeniable, but it is an adjective, not an obsession... no need to hear one frigging word he says. Lazy Americans resulting in more high office holders owned by the very people that have caused most of what ails us like Wall Street eg.

Never mind his solutions, ..but he is the ONLY candidate (now that Paul has been marginalized by his own team) unencumbered and correctly identifying what is broken.

I want the problems being screamed at full volume until the national debate is how to fix, rather than burying the reasons. 4 or 8 more years of anyone else will not do it."

So I'm guessing you think he's crazy to rail about 4 of the 5 largest banks that were bailed out are bigger than before? You're actually in favor of stuff like that?

I am not promoting his or any current politicians solutions (that's in my quote, need it color coded?) I am suggesting people get off the labels and listen to what he and the likes of Paul are identifying and then we can bring it to light and possibley address it. I can not find where I said he is the answer man as you moronically gleaned from my post.

Or we can follow you into your insulated cubicle, refuse to hear anything that might stimulate thought, and vote for...sorry pal, I missed the name of your new and different savior.

Now, I would be willing to exchange posts with you for as long as I find it intellectually enticing, as I have with others here for years despite different philosophies without acrimony, but I'm not convinced you can accept giving or getting respect.

So I say, Welcome Back! But I predict you've learned nothing and will be the subject of a funny thread in a matter weeks.
MACS Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Jan 22 2016, 10:25 PM EST
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A matter of weeks? Optimistic, aren't you? Gonz
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#40 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 12:12 AM EST
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Reading one of his posts takes more than a few weeks.

Welcome back potthead
teedubbya Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 12:13 AM EST
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And your apology is accepted.
frankj1 Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 12:34 AM EST
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I am sorry, sorry I don't feel like a commie.
And I tried to be nice but...

Hey, he pops in, sheds his skin, and slinks away. He's allowed to use this place that way, I just don't want him defining me.
tonygraz Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 8:06 AM EST
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To my people he is known as "2ZPotts".
bgz Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 9:25 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
If you really want to be honest, you would say that Bernie is the only one that's not a fraud. The big banks and Wall street nearly put us in a depression and will do so again if they are left to run rampant. If anyone hates free choice it's the republicans- they specialize in hate and are owned by big money. Bernie has lots of good ideas that could swing this country back to a democracy rather that the current kakocracy.


I thought the big end of the world, zomfg we're going to die moment with a fiat money system was hyper-inflation.

Depression implies everyone is hoarding, and the supply of available funds to spend is low...

The fiat system, they just print more... kind of the purpose for the system in the first place.

Ok, back to arguing about which chitty candidate is better...
frankj1 Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 12:28 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
I thought the big end of the world, zomfg we're going to die moment with a fiat money system was hyper-inflation.

Depression implies everyone is hoarding, and the supply of available funds to spend is low...

The fiat system, they just print more... kind of the purpose for the system in the first place.

Ok, back to arguing about which chitty candidate is better...

only because we are BFF's now, I just want to clarify that I am (so far) suggesting people listen to the guys on the fringes in identifying what may need fixing...I don't know that they actually have solutions, but for sure the other candidates and current office holders are so indebted that they can not honestly assess the situation even if they wanted to do so.

at this moment, Sanders and Paul may be the onliest ones that can approach the conversation AND get in front of a camera.
Brewha Offline
#46 Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016, 12:34 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
the only thing centralized government is good at is spending other peoples money

the socialism already rampant in our country has us starting each fiscal year in the red

take a look at venezuela and their 750% inflation or everywhere in europe except germany and you see what socialism gets you

its great for the folks on top but everyone else who buys in (literally) on a hope and a prayer not so much.

our society loves to look for boogie men to blame for everything - the rich, the racists, the Christians, the cops, etc

couldn't possibly have anything to do with the coarsening of our culture, break down of the family and the rising dependent class who isn't even pretending to look for a job (yay 5% unemployment)

you want to see things get even worse then scare some more job creators into keeping more money offshore or fleeing the country

And while we are on a tour of American boogie men let's not overlook the ubiquitous American fascist - who forever cries "socialism" to hide his tracks.....
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