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DrMaddVibe Offline
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Lead by example there Francis!

Pope Francis Asks Nations to ‘Open Their Hearts and Their Doors’ to Migrants

In his general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis launched an appeal to the nations of the world to open their hearts and their doors to migrants who are standing “at the border,” in an apparent reference to the many migrants camped at key border positions trying to enter Europe.

During the last year, more than 1.1 million migrants entered the European Union and the unabated flow has prompted countries along the main migration corridor through the Balkans to seal their borders, leaving tens of thousands encamped in Greece.

The Pope compared today’s migrants to the people of Israel who were deported into Babylon in the 7th century BC, as recounted in the Biblical book of the prophet Jeremiah.

“How many of our brothers and sisters are living in this time a real and dramatic situation of exile,” Francis said, “far from their homeland, still in their eyes the reflection of their homes reduced to rubble, their hearts full of fear and often, unfortunately, sorrow at the loss of loved ones!”

“And when they try to go somewhere else, they find the door closed to them,” Francis continued, “There they are, at the border, because so many doors and so many hearts are closed. Today’s migrants suffer from the cold, without food and with no way to enter. They do not feel welcome.”

“How it pleases me to hear of nations and rulers who open their hearts and open their doors!” he said.

Earlier this month, Pope Francis called Europe’s migrant crisis a veritable “Arab invasion,” and framed the inundation of primarily Muslim migrants in the context of invasions that Europe has suffered in the past, immediately adding: “How many invasions has Europe suffered in its history!”

In his audience Wednesday, the Pope related the situations of contemporary migrants to the Israelites’ deportation to “a foreign land,” which tried their faith in God’s goodness.

Francis said that the Babylonian exile was a “devastating experience for Israel.” Faith had faltered because in a strange land, without a temple and without worship, “it was difficult to continue to believe in the goodness of the Lord.”

“In these cases, one may ask, where is God? How is it that so much suffering can befall men, women and innocent children?” he asked.

The prophet Jeremiah was called upon to assure these people that “God is not absent even today in these dramatic situations,” Francis said. “God is near, and makes great works of salvation for those who trust in him.”

The Pope said that that Israel’s experience of exile, and above all returning home, presaged the mission of the Lord Jesus as redeemer.

“The real and radical return from exile and the comforting light after the darkness of the crisis of faith, is realized at Easter,” Francis said, “in the experience full and definitive love of God, the merciful love that gives joy, peace and eternal life.”


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/03/17/pope-francis-asks-nations-to-open-their-hearts-and-their-doors-to-migrants/



I hear Vatican City is really nice this time of year.horse
ZRX1200 Offline
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Sounds the the Vatican should be the new Mecca of tolerance and support.
bgz Offline
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Well they do got the walls to keep them in once they get there... oh wait, the Vatican doesn't support walls, I forgot.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Was it the Nazi, Commie, or the Pedo pope that said "do as I say, not as I do"?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Was it the Nazi, Commie, or the Pedo pope that said "do as I say, not as I do"?



Well to be honest they hit a trifecta with that combo with the last one!!!Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
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Y'all folks sound like real men, picking on an 80 year old with only one lung that just wants to see the world at peace.
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Mr. Pope ! Tear Down that Wall !!Herfing
bgz Offline
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jjanecka wrote:
Y'all folks sound like real men, picking on an 80 year old with only one lung that just wants to see the world at peace.


trololol
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Last I heard… genocide was being committed against Christians.

F*ck them all if they don't like the "wall".

They helped build it, therefor they shall pay for it.
teedubbya Offline
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I'm confused. By they are you referencing the abused children, the nazis, or the commies because the church sure hasn't paid for that. Their cover ups seem to get a pass.
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this pope sure reminds me of a lot of other socialist elites
teedubbya Offline
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They wear funny hats too?
gummy jones Offline
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yea...at their secret meetings
frankj1 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
They wear funny hats too?

not a Pro-kippa!
Speyside Offline
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When he speaks like that is it considered his opinion or the opinion of the Catholic Church?
jjanecka Offline
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Unless he's speaking from the chair (ex Cathedra) it's his own opinion.

When the pope speaks Ex Cathedra he is speaking with Authority. Meaning that it has the full force of doctrine. It's not used often and it's reserved only for the Pope (He is considered the High Priest of The Church since Jesus is currently on vacation somewhere).
ZRX1200 Offline
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They say Jesus is coming, he must be walking he sure ain’t running. Who could blame him, look how we done him Hallelu!
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Jesus and his lawyers, are coming back...The Eels

Oh yeah, I'm coming back. I'm coming back when my hands stop whistling...Sam Kinneson (sp?)
tonygraz Offline
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Religion- love it or hate it ? Without it we would be overpopulated.
jjanecka Offline
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Atilla the Hun was atheist and he was the "Scourge of Europe."
bgz Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
Religion- love it or hate it ? Without it we would be overpopulated.


On the contrary to that, we wouldn't breed as much...

But you're probably right.
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I don't think it ouldcngge much. Sure we think of Christianity or Judaism etc as religion but if they didn't exist something would. It's the curse of having ur advanced cognitive minds and opposable thumbs.
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Not everyone is meant to live without following a supreme deity. The world is just too cold and lifeless without an organised group of men dedicated to the purpose of common good. That's the aim of religion, albiet things don't necessarily end up the most agreeable sometimes, religion's purpose is to create a center of cultivation and dedication to higher thought. Hospitals, sanitation, scientific advancement, and many other ideas were spawned out of man's need to know God and how he architected the universe. Sure the mode might feel outdated sometimes but I guarantee, when you walk into a Catholic hospital and see old pictures of the tireless efforts of nuns working with doctors to understand the human body or when you consider that the Vatican has it's own center for scientific research and has yielded fruits such as the big bang theory and others, is religion all that bad? Men dedicated to a true sense of science or the purest forms of religion are most certainly the same; they both aim to seek the Ultimate Truth.
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jjanecka wrote:
Not everyone is meant to live without following a supreme deity. The world is just too cold and lifeless without an organised group of men dedicated to the purpose of common good. That's the aim of religion, albiet things don't necessarily end up the most agreeable sometimes, religion's purpose is to create a center of cultivation and dedication to higher thought. Hospitals, sanitation, scientific advancement, and many other ideas were spawned out of man's need to know God and how he architected the universe. Sure the mode might feel outdated sometimes but I guarantee, when you walk into a Catholic hospital and see old pictures of the tireless efforts of nuns working with doctors to understand the human body or when you consider that the Vatican has it's own center for scientific research and has yielded fruits such as the big bang theory and others, is religion all that bad? Men dedicated to a true sense of science or the purest forms of religion are most certainly the same; they both aim to seek the Ultimate Truth.



I would argue the purpose of religion to exploit man's desire to seek truth.

TW's right, if it wasn't our current big 3, it would be something different.

In fact, back in the day, the dominant religion could have been any number of religions that were competing with Judaism, where most of them were trying to recruit as many members as possible to obtain power and control.

Any such religion with leaders that didn't seek power would not have lasted very long.
frankj1 Offline
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fear was/is a strong selling point.

just for my own understanding, no one is seriously considering Judaism as one of the BIGs, are they? There are so few of us left, and we don't recruit. In fact we make it difficult to convert.
Not trying to be controversial (this time!) but I have been wondering...
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teedubbya wrote:
I don't think it ouldcngge much. Sure we think of Christianity or Judaism etc as religion but if they didn't exist something would. It's the curse of having ur advanced cognitive minds and opposable thumbs.


You don't read the political forum much anymore do you....
bgz Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
fear was/is a strong selling point.

just for my own understanding, no one is seriously considering Judaism as one of the BIGs, are they? There are so few of us left, and we don't recruit. In fact we make it difficult to convert.
Not trying to be controversial (this time!) but I have been wondering...


Well, I would consider it a big one, after all, without Judaism, there would be no Christianity and Islam.

You guys may be an exclusive club now, but back in the day 2/3 thousand years ago, I'm sure it was a much different animal.
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true
tonygraz Offline
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I think the church of the flying spaghetti monster has not espoused anything evil yet. Great thing for colander sales too.



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