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Two ISIS attackers kill a French priest and take hostages...
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Jnorman Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 9:57 AM EST
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.. And the Pope will probably call to love them and forgive. Would you consider this an act to start a religious war?
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 9:59 AM EST
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They tried to kindap a RAF soldier too. Apparently some goat fuggin Imam decared that they should start kidnapping people.
jjanecka Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:02 AM EST
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Do not get confused, the Church does not condone "religious wars." The Church has what we call, Just War Doctrine meaning that the aggression of one group of people whether it be a Nation, Tribe, or Even Terrorists for that matter becomes so agregious that basically the Church's stance is, go to war because if we do not we'll get wiped off the face of the planet. Meaning it has to be a very extreme and dire situation for the Church to call arms. One martyrdom is not the case.
jjanecka Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:04 AM EST
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More than likely, he'll be declared a martyred saint which needs to happen. All those people innocently slain for their religion deserve sainthood.
Jnorman Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:04 AM EST
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Obviously ISIS isn't going to go straight to the Vatican and knock down the Pope's doors, but if this continues on, where is the line in the sand?
gummy jones Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:07 AM EST
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if only we could curb global climate warming change and get them better wages they wouldnt be forced to act this way
TMCTLT Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:10 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
if only we could curb global climate warming change and get them better wages they wouldnt be forced to act this way




LMAO....Right??? Applause
jjanecka Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:11 AM EST
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Jnorman wrote:
Obviously ISIS isn't going to go straight to the Vatican and knock down the Pope's doors, but if this continues on, where is the line in the sand?


Pope Francis along with several Vatican officials have already been requesting that western governments do everything they can to contain ISIS.

Recently Cardinal Burke, the Cardinal Presiding over the Order of Malta has wrote a letter openly admitting that anyone who is concerned about Islam's inability to separate Church from State has a legitimate concern and should gravely work toward ensuring that Muslim law and rule does not occur in the west.
Jnorman Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:15 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
if only we could curb global climate warming change and get them better wages they wouldnt be forced to act this way


I think Gummy is on to something with this....

The Pope has his own army, why doesn't he just go after ISIS? I'm sure the US would supply them arms and then deny it..
jjanecka Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:28 AM EST
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The only thing the pope has is the Swiss guard. Lol where is this army you speak of?
Jnorman Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 10:55 AM EST
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He could call upon different nations and ask for a Crusade...
jjanecka Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 11:01 AM EST
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See post 3
Speyside Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 11:05 AM EST
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But this was a lone wolf terrorist, not one with a religious affiliation. We must be sure we do not make accusations that upset our Muslim citizens. At this point we really do not know who was at fault. What we do know is if we had more gun control laws this would not have happened. Boy can I sound Presidential or what?
Jnorman Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 11:11 AM EST
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Speyside-Drafter 2016

Drafter would be able to get all of the canine votes for ya...
Jnorman Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 11:13 AM EST
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jjanecka, crusade just sounds more valiant.. but I do understand and made myself look dumb
Speyside Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 11:23 AM EST
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This is particularly horrible to me, any of the shootings and mass murders are horrific, but shooting a member of the clergy of any religion goes deeper yet. It is an attack on Religion. I think it hurts many of us profoundly.
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 12:36 PM EST
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I prefer it.
Honestly thus crap should be left to the religious leaders on both sides. Leave the "civilians" out of it... Priests vs imams, steel cage match or something like that.
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 1:40 PM EST
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Why do you hate da Pope..?? Huh
gummy jones Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 2:10 PM EST
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at least europe's tombstone can read "pc to the bitter end"
bgz Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 2:46 PM EST
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Make it a reality show, it'll sell.

Tune in tonight at 8/7 Central for "Crusades v 2.0" brought to you by Bandaid.
Speyside Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 2:50 PM EST
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Victor, are you really saying you condone murder? I thought Atheists had humanistic values. A priest or an imam are still human beings.
rfenst Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 2:56 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
This is particularly horrible to me, any of the shootings and mass murders are horrific, but shooting a member of the clergy of any religion goes deeper yet. It is an attack on Religion. I think it hurts many of us profoundly.


Yup.
bgz Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 3:01 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Victor, are you really saying you condone murder? I thought Atheists had humanistic values. A priest or an imam are still human beings.


He's not promoting murder, he's promoting a cage match... Don King style
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 3:47 PM EST
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Opening act will be some gay rugby dude kicking a hobo.
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 3:55 PM EST
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aMIt3yvcMUE
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 5:54 PM EST
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Tail is upset because the homeless beat him up.

tailgater Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 7:06 PM EST
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I'm not upset. I've got 20 bucks riding on that gay hooker.

Wait.

Nevermind.
tamapatom Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 8:20 AM EST
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Fighting that insurgent Christian group of French 85 year olds. He killed one and took out 20% of their members.
Gene363 Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 8:43 AM EST
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tamapatom wrote:
Fighting that insurgent Christian group of French 85 year olds. He killed one and took out 20% of their members.


+1
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 8:45 AM EST
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attackers were teenagers... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 9:58 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
attackers were teenagers... Mellow


probably nice kids
just turning their lives around
[insert 2nd grade smiling picture]
Buckwheat Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:04 AM EST
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"Well, of course, warfare isn't all fun. Right — stop that! It's all very well to laugh at the military, but when one considers the meaning of life, it is a struggle between alternative viewpoints of life itself. And without the ability to defend one's own viewpoint against other perhaps more aggressive ideologies, then reasonableness and moderation could, quite simply, disappear." - MP fog
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:10 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
probably nice kids
just turning their lives around
[insert 2nd grade smiling picture]




they were prolly on the dope.. Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 5:23 PM EST
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Got a lot of play at the DNC yesterday.






NOT!
Speyside Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 5:48 PM EST
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We all know that PC in the Democratic party has been out of line for some time. Imagine what they would be saying if an Imam had been murdered by 2 Christian teenagers doing it for Catholics.
Mr. Jones Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 8:10 PM EST
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ALL THESE RECENT OCCURANCES
are reaching the "limit of restraint"...
I forsee a MODERN CRUSADE coming
Against THESE terrorists...
They are just begging for it...
And they will get it.
Everybody is tired of this assault on civility.
Stinkdyr Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 1:37 PM EST
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Religion of peace strikes again.

Bomb
Speyside Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 5:11 PM EST
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Mr Jones, I hope not, but do think you could be correct. I would not be suprised to see a revolt in France.
jjanecka Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 12:54 AM EST
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Highly unlikely, Europeans don't want to risk the union falling apart. More than likely it will be a call to seize power by demanding a standing European military.
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