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Hillary told the truth!
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Speyside Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 8:07 AM EST
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Just ask her.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 10:16 AM EST
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Snopes says False... Shame on you
mikey1597 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:04 PM EST
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Tim Kaine promises 'We’re going to be real transparent, absolutely'


His first fib.
tonygraz Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 6:05 PM EST
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Got a count on Trump ?
Speyside Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 6:15 PM EST
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I lost count. LOL!
zitotczito Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 8:01 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Got a count on Trump ?


Nice job of deflection there. This thread is about Hillary and since she appears to be a sociopathic liar, beware not to be drawn into her web.
Brewha Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 8:59 PM EST
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zitotczito wrote:
Nice job of deflection there. This thread is about Hillary and since she appears to be a sociopathic liar, beware not to be drawn into her web.

And that's what you get for studying a politicians career on Fox....
zitotczito Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 9:03 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
And that's what you get for studying a politicians career on Fox....


The typical lefty response to always attack. You need to do better than that!
cacman Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 9:03 PM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
Tim Kaine promises 'We’re going to be real transparent, absolutely'

Heard the same line of BS from the last administration, twice.
Now we have a corrupt white lawyer from Arkansas supporting the 3rd-term of a corrupt activist black lawyer from Chicago whose one of many friends and mentors is Bill Ayers.
Perfect...
Brewha Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 9:09 PM EST
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zitotczito wrote:
The typical lefty response to always attack. You need to do better than that!

Check the overall record. Clinton is a relatively honest and altruistic career politician. Trump is a buisness Weasle and a liar extreme.

Honestly have really looked at this?
zitotczito Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 9:34 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Check the overall record. Clinton is a relatively honest and altruistic career politician. Trump is a buisness Weasle and a liar extreme.

Honestly have really looked at this?


Honestly, I have looked at this. I did like your use of the word "relatively" to describe Hillary as honest as compared to "completely." So can we agree that she has lied at times and has told the truth at times, being more truthful than a liar.

Regarding Trump, I take it that you dislike Trump since you used name calling (ie-Weasel) to describe him. Please stay on message as this thread is about Hillary.
cacman Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 10:03 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Clinton is a relatively honest and altruistic career politician.

The hell with this CO medicinal stuff… I want some of what you're smoking!

Hilldog's & Bill's path of lies & corruption goes all the way back to Nixon, Whitewater, and many others afterwards including Benghazi. Even the FBI recently stated her actions regarding simple email convo's where reckless.

How funny is it that the guberment only "suspects" Hilldog's emails where hacked, yet there have been 2 hacks on the DNC-side since then with promises of more on to be released on Wikileaks. However, we've been told nothing about hacks on the RNC.

It's all relative, depending on if you're wearing rose-colored glasses or not.
TMCTLT Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 6:08 AM EST
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WHEN Whistle
DrMaddVibe Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 7:45 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
The hell with this CO medicinal stuff… I want some of what you're smoking!

Hilldog's & Bill's path of lies & corruption goes all the way back to Nixon, Whitewater, and many others afterwards including Benghazi. Even the FBI recently stated her actions regarding simple email convo's where reckless.

How funny is it that the guberment only "suspects" Hilldog's emails where hacked, yet there have been 2 hacks on the DNC-side since then with promises of more on to be released on Wikileaks. However, we've been told nothing about hacks on the RNC.

It's all relative, depending on if you're wearing rose-colored glasses or not.



OR...


If your foundation is getting paid for the info!

Quid pro quo.


They're gonna want something for the money.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 7:58 AM EST
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She works hard for da money... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 9:05 AM EST
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You guys are a laugh. Here you all are arguing over which nominee is a bigger lier and POS while the country is a hot mess. Grow a pair and Vote for Johnson/Weld. fog ram27bat horse
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 9:48 AM EST
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or just don't vote... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:06 AM EST
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zitotczito wrote:
Honestly, I have looked at this. I did like your use of the word "relatively" to describe Hillary as honest as compared to "completely." So can we agree that she has lied at times and has told the truth at times, being more truthful than a liar.

Regarding Trump, I take it that you dislike Trump since you used name calling (ie-Weasel) to describe him. Please stay on message as this thread is about Hillary.

Zito, should I pretend for the moment that you know of an “honest” politician that never told a lie?

Truth is that in the political arena there are many shades of gray when they speak. We should remember that if they mis-speak or are taken out of context the opposition scores it as a “lie”.

Here is her score card from PolitiFacts:
The PolitiFact scorecard
• True53 ( 22%)(53)
• Mostly True67 ( 28%)(67)
• Half True50 ( 21%)(50)
• Mostly False34 ( 14%)(34)
• False27 ( 11%)(27)
• Pants on Fire5 ( 2%)(5)


And when I say relatively, I compare her to her opposition – as that seems most relevant.

Trumps card:
The PolitiFact scorecard
• True9 ( 4%)(9)
• Mostly True24 ( 11%)(24)
• Half True32 ( 15%)(32)
• Mostly False32 ( 15%)(32)
• False78 ( 36%)(78)
• Pants on Fire40 ( 19%)

Oh, Good luck with that...
Brewha Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:08 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
The hell with this CO medicinal stuff… I want some of what you're smoking!

Hilldog's & Bill's path of lies & corruption goes all the way back to Nixon, Whitewater, and many others afterwards including Benghazi. Even the FBI recently stated her actions regarding simple email convo's where reckless.

How funny is it that the guberment only "suspects" Hilldog's emails where hacked, yet there have been 2 hacks on the DNC-side since then with promises of more on to be released on Wikileaks. However, we've been told nothing about hacks on the RNC.

It's all relative, depending on if you're wearing rose-colored glasses or not.

Wake up man - Washington is not running....
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:11 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Zito, should I pretend for the moment that you know of an “honest” politician that never told a lie?

Truth is that in the political arena there are many shades of gray when they speak. We should remember that if they mis-speak or are taken out of context the opposition scores it as a “lie”.

Here is her score card from PolitiFacts:
The PolitiFact scorecard
• True53 ( 22%)(53)
• Mostly True67 ( 28%)(67)
• Half True50 ( 21%)(50)
• Mostly False34 ( 14%)(34)
• False27 ( 11%)(27)
• Pants on Fire5 ( 2%)(5)


And when I say relatively, I compare her to her opposition – as that seems most relevant.

Trumps card:
The PolitiFact scorecard
• True9 ( 4%)(9)
• Mostly True24 ( 11%)(24)
• Half True32 ( 15%)(32)
• Mostly False32 ( 15%)(32)
• False78 ( 36%)(78)
• Pants on Fire40 ( 19%)

Oh, Good luck with that...





Lies about what..?? Lies that killed peoples..?? Huh
Brewha Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:22 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Lies about what..?? Lies that killed peoples..?? Huh

Too much Fox?

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/06/trey-gowdy-admits-reporters-clinton-lied
DrafterX Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:36 AM EST
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Well, technically they were already murdered when she lied about it... if you want to get picky.. Mellow






And as far as I know Trump never denied killing anybody... Not talking
tonygraz Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 1:04 PM EST
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But he said he could in front of witnesses and get away with it.
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 1:05 PM EST
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that's not really a lie tho.... OJ got away with murder.... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 1:31 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Well, technically they were already murdered when she lied about it... if you want to get picky.. Mellow
Not talking


Technically? I think you meant to say factually her lies didn't kill anyone. horse ram27bat

REMEMBER TO VOTE FOR JOHNSON/WELD 2016!! fog
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 3:22 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Zito, should I pretend for the moment that you know of an “honest” politician that never told a lie?

Truth is that in the political arena there are many shades of gray when they speak. We should remember that if they mis-speak or are taken out of context the opposition scores it as a “lie”.

Here is her score card from PolitiFacts:
The PolitiFact scorecard
• True53 ( 22%)(53)
• Mostly True67 ( 28%)(67)
• Half True50 ( 21%)(50)
• Mostly False34 ( 14%)(34)
• False27 ( 11%)(27)
• Pants on Fire5 ( 2%)(5)


And when I say relatively, I compare her to her opposition – as that seems most relevant.

Trumps card:
The PolitiFact scorecard
• True9 ( 4%)(9)
• Mostly True24 ( 11%)(24)
• Half True32 ( 15%)(32)
• Mostly False32 ( 15%)(32)
• False78 ( 36%)(78)
• Pants on Fire40 ( 19%)

Oh, Good luck with that...




Hey!
Kool Aid!!!


(brewha comes crashing through the fence)
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 3:32 PM EST
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he better fix it... Not talking
Speyside Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 3:46 PM EST
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They both lie, imagine that.
Brewha Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 3:54 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
They both lie, imagine that.

I've had my suspicions about Drafter and Tailgater for a while now.....
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 3:56 PM EST
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d'oh!
tonygraz Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 7:21 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I've had my suspicions about Drafter and Tailgater for a while now.....


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