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MACS Offline
#1 Posted:
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I always hear that republicans are racist, but history doesn't support that narrative.

Democrat Party founded in 1829 – fought against every civil rights initiative, defended slavery, founded the kkk, imposed segregation, lynched people, and fought the civil rights act of 1964.

1857 – Dred Scott v Sandford Supreme Court Case 7 democrats voted that slaves were property, 2 republicans voted nay, they were not.

After Booth (democrat) assassinated Lincoln (republican), Andrew Johnson took over the presidency. He opposed integration. The democrats opposed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments which abolished slavery, gave blacks citizenship, and the right to vote.

After Union troops left the south, democrats came back to power and enacted black codes restricting blacks from owning property or businesses, initiated poll taxes and literacy tests to keep blacks from voting, and enforced it through terror from the kkk, founded by Nathan Forrest… a democrat.

1912-1921 Woodrow Wilson (democrat) shared views with the kkk, re-segregated federal agencies, and screened the first film ever shown at the White House “The Birth of a Nation” also known as “The Clansman” – clearly a racist movie.

1964 – Democrats opposed the civil rights act, and even filibustered for 75 days until the republicans could get the swing votes.

It's purported that Lyndon Johnson (democrat) said, "If them n***ers are gonna vote, we'll have 'em voting democrat for 200 years".

This information provided by Carol Swain, professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University (she's black, by the way).
tailgater Offline
#2 Posted:
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Racist.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#3 Posted:
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I'm not a racist but my guess is a lot of old white politicians who live in really nice mostly white neighborhoods and who were alive during days of segregation are probably at least a little bit racist... republicans and democrats both...
MACS Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I'm not a racist but my guess is a lot of old white politicians who live in really nice mostly white neighborhoods and who were alive during days of segregation are probably at least a little bit racist... republicans and democrats both...


Yeah, I was going to include a poll: Dems, Reps, Both, Neither.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted:
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And they still like keeping their "help" on the "plantation".
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted:
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what were the whigs up to in 1829?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#7 Posted:
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Probably cross dressing... if you dig wearing em in the day time, you're probably adding a dress at night...
MACS Offline
#8 Posted:
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^LOL!
MACS Offline
#9 Posted:
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Maybe the lefties are taking just a wee bit longer to research the veracity of Ms. Swain's own research... or they're done and realize there is nothing to say. She's correct.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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Or maybe the fish just aren't biting today.
Speyside Offline
#11 Posted:
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LOL!, Shawn, I biotch and moan when I think something is wrong, or inaccurate, or an opinion taken as fact. In this case the professors research seems accurate. The Democtatic party was terrible for a long time.
Speyside Offline
#12 Posted:
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BTW, it's terrible again, but for different reasons.
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted:
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They should start body slamming reporters... Mellow
MACS Offline
#14 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
They should start body slamming reporters... Mellow


Hey, that guy won... it worked for him. I'm wondering why just audio, though... does the video not fit the narrative of what's being reported?
MACS Offline
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Speyside wrote:
BTW, it's terrible again, but for different reasons.


I wouldn't say different... I'd say more reasons. Angel
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted:
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Go Montana!
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Not so fast Kemosabe...

The Poli Sci Professor (or the author of your source material) left out a few details. The two parties have switched ideologies and platforms many times in American history...RINO and DINO would be more accurate terms... it is the beliefs and platforms that matter, not the name of the party...

Using progressive and conservatism as a major ideology, both parties have embraced those flags over the past 200 years. Complicating this was the rise of factions within each; large blocs of people whose ideas differed from their party's primary ideology and embraced the beliefs of the opposition during their time. So there have been periods in American history when Republicans could honestly be called "libtards": and Dems could be called "contards"...


http://factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/

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MACS wrote:
Hey, that guy won... it worked for him. I'm wondering why just audio, though... does the video not fit the narrative of what's being reported?


...apparently no video, but there were Fox News reporters who witnessed the incident and verified the reporter's version, contradicting the Congressman's statement. He is being charged with criminal assault and battery.

The incident happened the day before election day, but more than 2/3 to 3/4 of Montanans had voted already, by mail. Some people in Montana are still dignified and upstanding. Several newspapers who had endorsed the GOP candidate withdrew their endorsements because of the incident. Is this a reflection of the new conservative party under Trump?

"Beat the crap out of them" indeed...
DrafterX Offline
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He's still learning.... a 'List' is a much better way to deal with this stuff... Mellow
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
...apparently no video, but there were Fox News reporters who witnessed the incident and verified the reporter's version, contradicting the Congressman's statement. He is being charged with criminal assault and battery.

The incident happened the day before election day, but more than 2/3 to 3/4 of Montanans had voted already, by mail. Some people in Montana are still dignified and upstanding. Several newspapers who had endorsed the GOP candidate withdrew their endorsements because of the incident. Is this a reflection of the new conservative party under Trump?

"Beat the crap out of them" indeed...


Yes. It's definitely a reflection on Trump.
Just like Ferguson was a reflection on Obama.
delta1 Offline
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Black Lives Matter!




DrafterX wrote:
He's still learning.... a 'List' is a much better way to deal with this stuff... Mellow




you mean a list of names that "someone" will start crossing off???Gonz
tailgater Offline
#22 Posted:
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Why do you hate Clinton?
delta1 Offline
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chuckle...which one? That DeWitt dude was an azz ...
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted:
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Joyce?
delta1 Offline
#25 Posted:
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dammm...I coulda sworn Vanderbilt was in Mississippi...Tennessee is close enough...
MACS Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Yes. It's definitely a reflection on Trump.
Just like Ferguson was a reflection on Obama.


Or just like all the violent riots to prevent conservative speakers is a reflection of the liberals.
MACS Offline
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delta1 wrote:
http://factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/


That's an opinion paper/article/blog/whatever. Just because he labels his site fact/myth doesn't make it so.

I will give him credit for listing his references, but I wrote plenty of papers with references and they still held a lot of opinion based on how I interpreted what I read, and of course, my interpretation tends to lean towards what I already believe.

Just saying... BigGrin
Gene363 Offline
#28 Posted:
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The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party

Quote:
Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S. history? Watch as Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University, shares the inconvenient history of the Democratic Party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=347&v=g_a7dQXilCo
MACS Offline
#29 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=347&v=g_a7dQXilCo


Now you've gone and done it, Gene... it all has to be 100% false because she made a video for Prager.

I purposely left the video out, and focused on her points, to see if people would at least ponder it instead of just discounting it for being a Prager video.
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MACS wrote:
Now you've gone and done it, Gene... it all has to be 100% false because she made a video for Prager.

I purposely left the video out, and focused on her points, to see if people would at least ponder it instead of just discounting it for being a Prager video.


No one will ponder anything. Their minds are already made up.
Gene363 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Now you've gone and done it, Gene... it all has to be 100% false because she made a video for Prager.

I purposely left the video out, and focused on her points, to see if people would at least ponder it instead of just discounting it for being a Prager video.


How about Vanderbilt University then, the speaker was, "Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University"
Gene363 Offline
#32 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
No one will ponder anything. Their minds are already made up.


True, it's the old, "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up." story.
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