opelmanta1900 wrote:But you believe the exact opposite, that trump had something to do with the recent shooting and Obama had nothing to do with any of the blm violence... i love you Al but you're exactly the same person you're criticizing... you just wear blue instead of red...
I don't "believe the exact opposite"...it's a matter of degree, opel...and motivations that can be attributed to the two leaders for saying the things they said...
I am not certain that Trump's rhetoric was a cause...see my wavering and lack of conviction in post #26...here's a sentence I typed, "So it is less likely that Trump's diatribes against the press motivated this specific individual..."
My point is that the right consistently argues and "proves" about libs that if you say something long enough and hard enough, despite whether or not it's true, it can be perceived as true...Trump has said long and hard that the "press is the enemy of the people"...
Remember when McCain was running for President and the elderly woman attending a rally said that Obama was a Muslim? McClain, to his credit, corrected her. That's an example of saying something long enough and hard enough that it can influence another's beliefs and may/could motivate behavior. Heck, there are still a percentage of people who believe Obama was born in Kenya...
Of course I am susceptible to propaganda and demagoguery, we're all people...but I am more fact driven than most and believe I've come to hold some values based on a lifetime of experience, education, observation and study.
(edit: Huck made the case for the third phrase of this post)