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Term Limits
dstieger Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
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Why don't we ever hear serious talk about term limts?

Interesting article in the paper yesterday about succession....Orrin Hatch is third in line to become president if something happened to Trump, Pence and Ryan. Unlikely as that may be, Hatch is 84 years old and wasn't even elected to be Senate Pro-Tem...he's simply 'it' by virtue of the fact that he's been a Senator for 41 years!

Looking at he and the other 'top 3' on the judiciary committee that's so much in the news right now (along with Feinstein, Leahy and Grassley), their average time in office is 37 years and average age is 83!

No doubt, there's plenty of octogenarians who are quite capable of lots of things, but as a rule, I don't want my representatives in same office for 37 years. No way that we're getting the best representation by this being the norm, in my opinion.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
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Why do you hate old peoples..?? Huh
Phil222 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2017
Posts: 1,911
Terms should be 8 years max. I would like to see term limits on SCOTUS picks too.
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,221
dstieger wrote:
Why don't we ever hear serious talk about term limts?

Interesting article in the paper yesterday about succession....Orrin Hatch is third in line to become president if something happened to Trump, Pence and Ryan. Unlikely as that may be, Hatch is 84 years old and wasn't even elected to be Senate Pro-Tem...he's simply 'it' by virtue of the fact that he's been a Senator for 41 years!

Looking at he and the other 'top 3' on the judiciary committee that's so much in the news right now (along with Feinstein, Leahy and Grassley), their average time in office is 37 years and average age is 83!

No doubt, there's plenty of octogenarians who are quite capable of lots of things, but as a rule, I don't want my representatives in same office for 37 years. No way that we're getting the best representation by this being the norm, in my opinion.

Over the years, this subject comes up, and everyone mostly agrees...as long a it's someone else's senator/rep!
They go back and nominate their local, then vote him/her back in. And then whine about Congress.

I agree with you, 4 decades gets stale. But one of the problems that I see is loss of seniority that affects committees etc.
I think if that system were to be revamped locals would have less excuse to keep pulling the same lever.

Locally, a surprise upset happened in the primaries. Mike Capuano (sp), a very liberal Democrat with years in Washington was knocked off by an equally liberal Democrat woman...on the surface it looks like change for a quarter but under the current set up rewarding longevity, this may have ramifications for the towns affected by doing the noble thing...and that isn't right.
delta1 Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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Term limits would put an end to many of the extreme behaviors that long tenured incumbents show today, and may result in less partisanship and more moderation...but without campaign spending limits also part of the fix, I'm not sure that the results will be any different...
dstieger Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
I support campaign finance reform. I just don't think I've ever heard a workable proposal I can support. I'm not optimistic we'll ever get there. Bad enough that it gets complicated quickly....but it requires the foxes install the security system
delta1 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,788
a good place to start would be to limit spending on elections to residents (persons, citizens) of the state in which the office is being voted, and all donations should be attributed to the name of the actual donor, not some anonymous PAC.

By that I mean to eliminate the multi-million dollars of spending on an obscure House/Senate race in Podunk, MN by who knows what corporate entity to ensure a majority in the US Congress. Local politics should be decided by the citizens of that location...
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