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luckydogguy Offline
#1 Posted:
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Are the short torps exclusive for CI /CB? Any back story or info on these? Thanks,
Lucky
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#2 Posted:
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I checked a couple other retailers and Dunbarton's web site. Since Dunbarton does not list them on their site, I'd have to say that they are a CI exclusive. I've smoked Sobremesa cigars, but never the short torp, so I don't know how they compare.

David
KingoftheCove Offline
#3 Posted:
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The other place also sells a size which seems to be an exclusive to them.
Have not tried those...
tonygraz Offline
#4 Posted:
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Exclusives worry me - the worst cigar I ever smoked was an exclusive Gurkha.
99cobra2881 Offline
#5 Posted:
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I don’t know about the short torpedo but the Sobremesa El Americano (Toro) in my memory is one of the best cigars I’ve ever smoked.

I have 10 of the Mi Querida Sakakhans which are a CI exclusive size but since it’s well into cigar drought season (fking cold weather it’s not even winter yet dammit anyways) where I live, I haven’t gotten to do anything but look at them and wonder if they’re any good? They’re cheap on here compared to CI so that makes it not that big of a deal if they suck.
tamapatom Offline
#6 Posted:
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I have had the sobremeso short torp........OK but not impressed...... others speak very highly of the brand in general. Not the same blend?? Need to do a side by side comparison, I guess.
tamapatom Offline
#7 Posted:
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I have had the sobremeso short torp........OK but not impressed...... others speak very highly of the brand in general. Not the same blend?? Need to do a side by side comparison, I guess.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#8 Posted:
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I’ve had most of the vitolas, but not the short torp. I’ve narrowed it down to the short churchill (exceptional) and the elegante en Cedric’s (very good). Those are supposedly the two fullest bodies and strongest of the line. Interested if someone can compare the torp to the short churchill.
luckydogguy Offline
#9 Posted:
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Thanks for the input guys. I have tried the short Churchill and that was great. I will give these a try ROTT and then again in the spring and will leave some feedback. ;)

Lucky
luckydogguy Offline
#10 Posted:
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Got my shipment and tried the Subremesa ROTT and it was great! I didn’t pick up any differences from the regular vitolas. I’m glad I picked up 15!

Lucky
Whistlebritches Offline
#11 Posted:
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I have both the short Churchill and short Torp.............My wheelhouse is in the smaller ring gauges but here the short Torp wins out.
KingoftheCove Offline
#12 Posted:
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So the other place carries most all the Dunbarton vitolas.
They also have what appears to be an exclusive........the "Short Robusto" at 4.75x52.

However, the Dunbarton website lists a cigar that exact size, and calls it the "Elegante en Cedros".

But then the other place also lists an "Elegante en Cedros", but it's a 7x50 Churchill.

And so, I humbly ask:

WTF?!

And, more importantly, anyone try the Short Robusto from the other place?
Arrow_34 Offline
#13 Posted:
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I have also had the a few other sizes and I love the Short torp, I have been through about 15 of them from cbid and they are great!
SmokeMonkey Offline
#14 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
So the other place carries most all the Dunbarton vitolas.
They also have what appears to be an exclusive........the "Short Robusto" at 4.75x52.

However, the Dunbarton website lists a cigar that exact size, and calls it the "Elegante en Cedros".

But then the other place also lists an "Elegante en Cedros", but it's a 7x50 Churchill.

And so, I humbly ask:

WTF?!

And, more importantly, anyone try the Short Robusto from the other place?


The Elengante en Cedros is 7x50.

I have not tried the short robusto.
KingoftheCove Offline
#15 Posted:
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
The Elengante en Cedros is 7x50.

I have not tried the short robusto.

So.....there's a pretty glaring typo on Dunbarton's website I guess?
d'oh!
KingoftheCove Offline
#16 Posted:
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Just sent an email to Dunbarton asking for clarification.
KingoftheCove Offline
#17 Posted:
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Holy carp!
Steve Saka gets back to me in 5 minutes, and fixes the typo!
How many cigar bosses do that?

Exactly.
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted:
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It's good to be King.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted:
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so...there's no such thing as a Sobremesa Short Robusto?

except at the other place...exclusive? same blend/?
KingoftheCove Offline
#20 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
so...there's no such thing as a Sobremesa Short Robusto?

except at the other place...exclusive? same blend/?

Just fired off another email to Steve regarding these.
See what he says...
KingoftheCove Offline
#21 Posted:
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Steve got back to me, and the official word is this:
-He makes an exclusive for cbid and the Mothership.........the Short Torpedo

- He makes an exclusive for the other place and their well known parent..........the Short Robusto.

Both exclusives are "the same quality, and same blend".
Pudding Mittens Offline
#22 Posted:
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Exclusives aren't always bad or inferior to the non-exclusive version(s). Some are quite good.

Two simple rules:

1. As in all things, as Ronald Reagan said, "Trust, but verify!". Buy some for T&E (Testing and Evaluation).

2. If you like the T&E sticks, the next step is to IMMEDIATELY buy as many as you think you'll want in total, because blends can change, often for the worse. If you wait months and then order, you might not like what you get.
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99cobra2881 Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 11-19-2013
Posts: 2,470
KingoftheCove wrote:
Steve got back to me, and the official word is this:
-He makes an exclusive for cbid and the Mothership.........the Short Torpedo

- He makes an exclusive for the other place and their well known parent..........the Short Robusto.

Both exclusives are "the same quality, and same blend".



I’m very impressed with Steve Saka replying promptly to your emails and fixing the error on Dunbartons website. I think I know what my next box buy is going to be now. Herfing
Whistlebritches Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 16,874
Pudding Mittens wrote:
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Exclusives aren't always bad or inferior to the non-exclusive version(s). Some are quite good.

Two simple rules:

1. As in all things, as Ronald Reagan said, "Trust, but verify!". Buy some for T&E (Testing and Evaluation).

2. If you like the T&E sticks, the next step is to IMMEDIATELY buy as many as you think you'll want in total, because blends can change, often for the worse. If you wait months and then order, you might not like what you get.
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^True.......After a couple 5'rs from here I picked up a couple boxes.
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