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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 12:56 PM EST
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You have to google it.


Meanwhile, CNN tells me it will be cold in Chicago.
In winter time.
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 1:13 PM EST
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Yeah right....and Israel cured cancer
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 1:56 PM EST
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I saw it in the liberal Boston Globe.
RMAN4443 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 2:18 PM EST
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I haven't read my Boston Herald yet....but I will later today, after I wake up and start my busy day...my day doesn't start until 3pm
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 2:24 PM EST
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When I search taliban agreement I get a CNN article.

So .... Once again you're wrong.

I don't know why you do this to yourself. You could just search this before making a statement like that.
RMAN4443 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 2:33 PM EST
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/world/asia/taliban-peace-deal-afghanistan.html

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2019/01/24/us-afghan-taliban-to-reach-agreement-for-harnessing-peace-through-talks/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-and-taliban-agree-in-principle-to-peace-framework-envoy-says/ar-BBSQddN
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 2:37 PM EST
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Sorry if there was confusion rman... I was telling tail he's wrong.

I just figured everyone would know who I'm talking about when I use the word "wrong"....
RMAN4443 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 3:08 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Sorry if there was confusion rman... I was telling tail he's wrong.

I just figured everyone would know who I'm talking about when I use the word "wrong"....

No confusion at all....I just googled US-and-Taliban-reach-milestone-towards-peace-talks(Topic Title)and found a few sites you may have missed...not saying you were "wrong", just, incomplete
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 5:21 PM EST
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I get a newsfeed. Something called 1440 or something.

I googled taliban peace.

Found the AP article.

Went to the majors, including CNN.

It was NOT on their front page.

It was NOT in their "World" tab. Nor in the "Politics" tab.


The front page DID tell me it was going to be cold.
In chicago.
In January.


The Boston Globe didn't have it on their front page.
The NYTimes didn't.


Say what you want.
I think the front page of a so-called "news" website should highlight actual news.

It's amazing that so many have simply accepted that "news" is now simply sensationalism and bias. How so many excuse it away.
Well, they DID have it but you have to look for it.


How the F*ck am I supposed to know what the news is if I have to google the specific words? Think about that.
If I wanted to get the news from CNN I'd know about cold winter weather in northern US cities. I'd know about some celebrity scandal. And on the world front I'd know a little about Brexit.

The lazy acceptance of what is sold as "news" is frightening when you consider the partisan positioning of the articles. I've said it before, the brain washing of the left has been a long, slow and subtle event.
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 5:27 PM EST
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To be fair the cold in the Midwest is likely going to impact more lives than a first step towards actually having peace talks with the Taliban.

But please... Continue being convinced this is "the brainwashing of the left".
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 6:09 PM EST
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To be fair, DJT ran on being less interventionist and he’s been keeping that promise.
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2019, 7:38 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I get a newsfeed. Something called 1440 or something.

I googled taliban peace.

Found the AP article.

Went to the majors, including CNN.

It was NOT on their front page.

It was NOT in their "World" tab. Nor in the "Politics" tab.


The front page DID tell me it was going to be cold.
In chicago.
In January.


The Boston Globe didn't have it on their front page.
The NYTimes didn't.


Say what you want.
I think the front page of a so-called "news" website should highlight actual news.

It's amazing that so many have simply accepted that "news" is now simply sensationalism and bias. How so many excuse it away.
Well, they DID have it but you have to look for it.


How the F*ck am I supposed to know what the news is if I have to google the specific words? Think about that.
If I wanted to get the news from CNN I'd know about cold winter weather in northern US cities. I'd know about some celebrity scandal. And on the world front I'd know a little about Brexit.

The lazy acceptance of what is sold as "news" is frightening when you consider the partisan positioning of the articles. I've said it before, the brain washing of the left has been a long, slow and subtle event.


betcha a beer that if the proposed discussions yield anything akin to peace, it will be on the front page.

But you have to make a change...the article might be continued on another page, so if you only read front page headlines, save your money. Or read more pages, don't be lazy (see what I did there?).

This isn't above the fold front page news...YET! Let's hope though, OK? It is encouraging, just not Earth shattering yet.
rfenst Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 6:44 AM EST
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The concept that the U.S. and the Taliban could find peace is laughable to me.
dstieger Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:10 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
The concept that the U.S. and the Taliban could find peace is laughable to me.


Guess that depends on on you define 'find peace'. I agree that we're never going to have a lot of overlap of shared values. But, if the agreement is 'we're going to leave Afghanistan for you to do what you want for a few years...and you aren't going to send terrorists to US...." ....that might be doable
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#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 10:58 AM EST
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BWUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

#12 ^^^ frank said "akin".... He went D.E.E.P. FOR THAT ONE...
tailgater Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 1:22 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
betcha a beer that if the proposed discussions yield anything akin to peace, it will be on the front page.

But you have to make a change...the article might be continued on another page, so if you only read front page headlines, save your money. Or read more pages, don't be lazy (see what I did there?).

This isn't above the fold front page news...YET! Let's hope though, OK? It is encouraging, just not Earth shattering yet.


First of all, I agree it's early and that positive results are a long shot at best.

But I disagree that so-called "news" outlets should put rubbish on their front page in place of more important stories.
I don't have time to read the entire CNN website.
And I wouldn't know what to even look for unless I knew what to look for.
Besides, I already said that I clicked on both the "World" and "Politics" link. Nothing.

So it's not Joe Tailgater that needs to change.

If you think CNN hid this article because it's not newsworthy then you are immune to the partisan issues facing the MSM.

tailgater Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 1:28 PM EST
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As for the news itself, I ask this:

Should the US stop trying to make peace with the Taliban?

Israel and Palestine are unlikely to kiss and make up.
But nobody suggested that Bill Clinton shouldn't waste his time.
Or that his camp David summit meetings weren't newsworthy.

It's 100% alright for us to show cynicism on these subjects.
But it's not OK for "News" to be cynical.

I thought that was obvious.
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:42 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
First of all, I agree it's early and that positive results are a long shot at best.

But I disagree that so-called "news" outlets should put rubbish on their front page in place of more important stories.
I don't have time to read the entire CNN website.
And I wouldn't know what to even look for unless I knew what to look for.
Besides, I already said that I clicked on both the "World" and "Politics" link. Nothing.

So it's not Joe Tailgater that needs to change.

If you think CNN hid this article because it's not newsworthy then you are immune to the partisan issues facing the MSM.


hard to believe, but I have never purposely gone to CNN websight. Probably have been directed there by posted links and stuff but could not tell you when.

i was really limiting my comments to The Globe, and then to the fact it was not front page.

I see your point, but have not had the experiences you describe.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 7:42 PM EST
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tail...try googling "US Taliban Peace Talks" CNN leads with articles going back 3 days...


so who do you believe when CNN says US Intel chiefs at odds with Trump?
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 7:52 PM EST
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Obama woulda just given them a couple pallets of money for a photo-op and claimed victory.... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:02 PM EST
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butthead...
DrafterX Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:04 PM EST
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Well, that's what I heard... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:05 PM EST
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it was their own money
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:11 PM EST
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Obama took the Taliban's money..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:15 PM EST
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no silly.
he gave Iran their money
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:19 PM EST
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So, Obama was like the Muslim Robin Hood..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:26 PM EST
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well, yeah, kinda.
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:37 PM EST
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it could get dangerous when Trump says don't believe the intel assessments and spreads his misinformation, which a significant portion of Americans take as gospel.

I guess he has to maintain his anti-intel stance as long as the Russia investigation, fueled by US intel reports, chugs along...

who appointed those folks who told Congress all those scary "facts"? Our commander in chief, President Walter Mitty Trump
DrafterX Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 8:54 PM EST
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At this point what does it matter..?? Mellow
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 12:27 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
tail...try googling "US Taliban Peace Talks" CNN leads with articles going back 3 days...


so who do you believe when CNN says US Intel chiefs at odds with Trump?


Everyone has been at odds with Trump.
I play the averages.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 12:29 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
tail...try googling "US Taliban Peace Talks" CNN leads with articles going back 3 days...


so who do you believe when CNN says US Intel chiefs at odds with Trump?


As for the peace talks, I already explained it.
You have to purposely google the terms.
3 days ago, when I first learned of this, I went to www.cnn.com.

Getting a link from google is cheating because you have to KNOW the news beforehand.
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 12:57 PM EST
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Tail is right about googling after knowing of anews story as "cheating" regarding his point.

However, I think there's a fundamental problem with his point.

This isn't the first time hes done this

Essentially he finds a news story which he personally believes is more newsworthy than what is on CNN or other site's front pages, and then uses that as his "evidence" that the news media is biased.

Of course, his assessment that the story is important is based off a sample of one .. tail. His assessment that it's more important than what's on the front page already is based on a sample of one.... Tail.

In this particular case, as I stated previously, a storm that literally brought temperatures of less than -50F to huge swathes of the Midwest probably had a much bigger impact on Americans than agreeing on possibly starting peace talks (which the article says will likely take up to 6 years to come to a peace agreement or something like that, I'm working from memory).

The problem with this method is simply, you have an observational selection bias. Your belief in this is leading you to only want to see it.
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#33 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 1:01 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
The concept that the U.S. and the Taliban could find peace is laughable to me.


That was my first thought. How do you 'negotiate' peace with terrorists?
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 1:39 PM EST
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don't see any follow-up stories...get anywhere?
dstieger Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 1:44 PM EST
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Taliban said "We aren't so radical anymore...we quit this war." We said....cool.
RMAN4443 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 1:51 PM EST
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what happened to the Taliban mantra....Death to the Infidels?Think
delta1 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 1:52 PM EST
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tail will be happy to learn that CNN did run a story about a local sports editor who got fired for airing a story about Tom Brady with a graphic below that said "Tom Brady...known cheater"
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#38 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 3:55 PM EST
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works both ways...CNN and most MSM ran story yesterday on "the Eighth Wonder of the World" Foxconn factory, a deal Trump touted that he personally helped WI Gov. Walker to negotiate, just went bust, after granting $4 billion in tax-payer subsidies...factory was supposed to create 13,000 good paying manufacturing jobs...

crickets on Fox News...
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 4:41 PM EST
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They prolly want to verify and stuff before they report... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 4:46 PM EST
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Man. If trump hadn't given that 4billion to foxxcon he coulda almost funded his wall.
frankj1 Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 5:25 PM EST
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mexico is paying
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#42 Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2019, 9:33 PM EST
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Can we send our best and brightest feminists there to make meaningful, long term change.
tailgater Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 9:22 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail is right about googling after knowing of anews story as "cheating" regarding his point.

However, I think there's a fundamental problem with his point.

This isn't the first time hes done this

Essentially he finds a news story which he personally believes is more newsworthy than what is on CNN or other site's front pages, and then uses that as his "evidence" that the news media is biased.

Of course, his assessment that the story is important is based off a sample of one .. tail. His assessment that it's more important than what's on the front page already is based on a sample of one.... Tail.

In this particular case, as I stated previously, a storm that literally brought temperatures of less than -50F to huge swathes of the Midwest probably had a much bigger impact on Americans than agreeing on possibly starting peace talks (which the article says will likely take up to 6 years to come to a peace agreement or something like that, I'm working from memory).

The problem with this method is simply, you have an observational selection bias. Your belief in this is leading you to only want to see it.


I don't disagree.

The media is biased against my beliefs.

My beliefs are conservative.

Ergo, the media is biased against conservatives.

Duh...
tailgater Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 9:24 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
tail will be happy to learn that CNN did run a story about a local sports editor who got fired for airing a story about Tom Brady with a graphic below that said "Tom Brady...known cheater"


I heard that story on the radio on my way home from the Bruins game last night.

Funny story.

Not so funny game.
B's lost in OT.

Sloppy and lazy performance.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 11:23 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I heard that story on the radio on my way home from the Bruins game last night.

Funny story.

Not so funny game.
B's lost in OT.

Sloppy and lazy performance.


Bruins shoulda cheated
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#46 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 11:25 AM EST
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Laugh
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#47 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 3:43 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
works both ways...CNN and most MSM ran story yesterday on "the Eighth Wonder of the World" Foxconn factory, a deal Trump touted that he personally helped WI Gov. Walker to negotiate, just went bust, after granting $4 billion in tax-payer subsidies...factory was supposed to create 13,000 good paying manufacturing jobs...

crickets on Fox News...



Apple supplier Foxconn confirmed on Friday that it will build a $10 billion Wisconsin plant Opens a New Window. , after concerns bubbled up this week that it was backing away from its initial commitment.

Following a call from President Trump Opens a New Window. , the Taiwanese company doubled down on its Wisconsin plans and said screens for small electronic devices will be built at the new factory.

Think
victor809 Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 4:04 PM EST
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"small electronic devices". Yeah, they backed away from the original agreement which was for much larger screens.

Your news is just trying to phrase it as if they returned to the original plan.
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#49 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 4:06 PM EST
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You'll never be happy huh.. Mellow
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#50 Posted: Fri, Feb 1 2019, 4:32 PM EST
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You think that miserable sack cares about happiness ?

Until he gets to perform his oral presentation on Cheeto and everyone here he hates with a passion agree to his general awesomeness and witty intellect his VAST hole will never be filled. It’s been stretched to far and is probably prolapsed like his chin.
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