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Speyside
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 1:46 PM EST
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Get his wall funding while the Republicans controlled the House and Senate? This has confused me for a bit of time. Is there something I am missing?
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 1:48 PM EST
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Oops, funding for the wall.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 1:56 PM EST
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Not just the wall. Republicans didn't get much of anything done. I think there are two ways of looking at it:
1. Senate cloture allowed obstructionist dems to derail everything. Or,
2. Republicans were so fractured or ineffective, that they couldn't even get anything to 60 votes.
DrafterX
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 1:58 PM EST
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McCain... And a few others... 60 votes are needed to truly control the Senate... Just having the majority doesn't mean you do what you want...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 1:59 PM EST
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Couldn't they have used the nuclear option to bypass the Democrats?
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 2:00 PM EST
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Because there is no material difference between republican and democrat members of the parliament of whores, they all work for the people that $ponsor them.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 2:02 PM EST
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... he didn't even demand his wall until a month before the Dems took control. He barely cared about it.
I'm sure someone could trace his demand for a wall back to a Fox news segment or something...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 2:07 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
... he didn't even demand his wall until a month before the Dems took control. He barely cared about it.
I'm sure someone could trace his demand for a wall back to a Fox news segment or something...
Do the republican presidential debates ring a bell?
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 2:11 PM EST
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Nah man...
You're right he talked about it.
But then he ignores it for nearly 2 years. Doesn't demand anything from the Congress...
Suddenly it has to be done immediately or government can't be funded....
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 2:12 PM EST
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I'm sure there were other spending bills before the one in Dec 2018. Why didn't he demand it then?
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 3:26 PM EST
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Trump gave Ryan chit for not getting it done before he left... Trump was busy fixin the country and stuff I guess...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 3:30 PM EST
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Trump knew there wasn't enough support for the wall among GOP House and Senate...DOA issue then, when they had majorities, so why bring it up...
with Dems controlling the House, he can now blame the Dems...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 3:33 PM EST
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Well, it is their fault...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 3:35 PM EST
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Trumpenfeurher tweeted that it's your fault drafter....
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 3:40 PM EST
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To the OPl
That is the question I've been asking since this started.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 3:45 PM EST
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here's an article that discusses GOP opposition to Trump's Wall...
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/422424-the-8-republicans-who-voted-against-trumps-border-wall
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The Hateful 8..??
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And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 6:07 PM EST
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So... Now after not thinking it's a big deal for 2 years... Suddenly thinking it's a big deal and shutting down the government for over a month... Then demanding and not receiving funding for it from Congress.... He's going to declare a state of emergency and try to fund it that way.
An emergency.... That wasn't that important for 2years.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 6:11 PM EST
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Trumps problem was listening and believing his party leadership that they would get to it.......yeah let’s pretend that one party is as monolithic as the other. And let’s also pretend that HE is the biggest problem in DC. It’s pretty awesome that HE could get elected and do such an awesome job showing how F’d DC is.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 7:19 PM EST
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And there's the never ending caravan thing now..
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 7:46 PM EST
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well...he still has about $520 million unspent of the $1.3 billion in the current budget for border barriers...about $780 million has been committed/contracted...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 7:58 PM EST
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why does he keep saying how much he's built already?
has any been built in this term?
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no...some previously authorized repair/replacement work has been done...nothing new... but a project is expected to commence this month...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/05/us/border-wall.html
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 8:27 PM EST
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Some of Obama's border wall work..??
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 8:33 PM EST
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but Trump says he did it...
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 8:37 PM EST
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He coulda called it immoral and stopped it I guess..
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 8:41 PM EST
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s'pose so
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He did send the National Guard down there to string several miles of barb wire.. maybe that's what he's referring to..
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 9:25 PM EST
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you want I should cut him some slack?
cuz I would, if you wanted.
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Thu, Feb 14 2019, 9:57 PM EST
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No... That wouldn't be any fun...
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HA!
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dstieger wrote:
Not just the wall. Republicans didn't get much of anything done. I think there are two ways of looking at it:
1. Senate cloture allowed obstructionist dems to derail everything. Or,
2. Republicans were so fractured or ineffective, that they couldn't even get anything to 60 votes.
I'd wager a bit of both.
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