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Mueller TESTIMONY= LYING P.O.S.
Mr. Jones Offline
#1 Posted:
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That premeditated first degree MURDERING coward felon P.O.S. SSG DIVISION OVERSEEER
FOR A DECADE is such a liar...

Trump has something on him and I bet it's a threat of bringing the SSG DIVISION INTO A FULL BLOWN CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION
if he found Trump guilty of anything..

That's why the coward was so obtuse and deflecting...

Hey MUELLER AND COMEY...

BLOW ME AND F**K OFF
+
K.M.L.W.P.J.A. TOO...
&
while your at it...rim my sweaty trash day starfish...

U 2 prick's...
Mr. Jones Offline
#2 Posted:
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Mueller the liar has fallen way off the RADAR...

GOING FROM THE "RED HOT TOAST OF THE TOWN"
TO
MUELLER W.H.O.,????
frankj1 Offline
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he clarified what he had written.
delta1 Offline
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if there is an impeachment inquiry into his obstruction of justice while in office, does that mean Trump can't be prosecuted after leaving office?
frankj1 Offline
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might have heard wrong, but Mueller strongly hinted at the former being Congress's ball to run with now if they choose based on about a dozen items he wrote of, while not speaking to questions related to the (ongoing) latter.

Obviously he could not talk about cases currently in court and got accused of being vague and unsure, but it seems those could go on or be added to after Trump leaves office.

delta1 Offline
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wondering if the courts have ever determined if impeachment is similar to a criminal trial, and would result in double jeopardy if an impeached official is charged criminally for the same offenses upon leaving office...
frankj1 Offline
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off the top of my head and with absolutely no expertise whatsoever, I'm thinking that offenses considered impeachable fall under the specific domain of Congress and not ever decided in our courts.
CelticBomber Offline
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delta1 wrote:
wondering if the courts have ever determined if impeachment is similar to a criminal trial, and would result in double jeopardy if an impeached official is charged criminally for the same offenses upon leaving office...


Impeachment does not preclude criminal charges. But, neither side wants to see a President, current or former, in a criminal court. If their guy can face criminal charges after his term is up a LOT of behind the scene's shenanigans will come to light as part of discovery. But, that means one of our Presidents could face the same thing and our dirty laundry could come to light too. That's why Presidential pardons are important to both sides. Look at all of the political pardons that have been handed out over the years. If Nixon had been impeached he still would have faced criminal charges once out of office with no guarantee of a Pardon had a Democrat followed him into office. Leaving when he did halted the impeachment process and made his VP, Gerald Ford, President. Who then granted what, at the time, was a very controversial unconditional pardon and made the whole issue moot.

I think it would take something outrageously egregious to make our government put a President on trial. It's not fair but the current thinking seems to be that we'd rather let a President get away with some things to avoid weakening and embarrassing the office and country.
DrafterX Offline
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The smart peoples see it that way... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
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So Jones... How do you really feel about this?
fishinguitarman Offline
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Mueller 2020!
izonfire Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
off the top of my head and with absolutely no expertise whatsoever,


No need.
I trust in your judgement.

Which makes mine questionable...
izonfire Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
he still would have faced criminal charges once out of office with no guarantee of a Pardon ......
I think it would take something outrageously egregious to make our government put a President on trial.


I did something outrageously egregious, yet you Padron'd me.
May be hypocritical on your part, but I thank you for it.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Mueller THE MURDERER is cowering in the darkness...

Shaking like a leaf...

Just waiting for Trump to start an
FBI- SPECIAL SURVEILLANCE GROUP INVESTIGATION...

THEN HE WILL BE T.O.A.S.T....along with that 7 foot coward freakoid MURDERER named COMEY...
teedubbya Offline
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Dude there is only 6 mints left on their contract on you but every time you post stuff like this they add a few more months.
delta1 Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
Impeachment does not preclude criminal charges. But, neither side wants to see a President, current or former, in a criminal court. If their guy can face criminal charges after his term is up a LOT of behind the scene's shenanigans will come to light as part of discovery. But, that means one of our Presidents could face the same thing and our dirty laundry could come to light too. That's why Presidential pardons are important to both sides. Look at all of the political pardons that have been handed out over the years. If Nixon had been impeached he still would have faced criminal charges once out of office with no guarantee of a Pardon had a Democrat followed him into office. Leaving when he did halted the impeachment process and made his VP, Gerald Ford, President. Who then granted what, at the time, was a very controversial unconditional pardon and made the whole issue moot.

I think it would take something outrageously egregious to make our government put a President on trial. It's not fair but the current thinking seems to be that we'd rather let a President get away with some things to avoid weakening and embarrassing the office and country.



well reasoned...makes sense...but it seems that the SDNY continues to build cases against Trump, mostly for pre-Presidency Trump business related violations, Trump Foundation, and campaign violations...heard that some of the investigations have concluded and decisions about filing charges are being held in abeyance...

but there also seems to be an investigation into fraud associated with the Inauguration Parties...

think it would keep our system of government strong by ignoring this stuff...
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