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Snow piercer is the dumbest movie ...ever concieved
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Mr. Jones Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 8:42 PM EST
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Can't believe I got to the 30:23...

Now's not the time...just wait...

Black jelly protein bars...

There are no bulliets...

Four doors open for four seconds...

I COULDA' filmed this B.S.
Movie in my basement and the local high school bus GARAGE...

Man this is B.A.D....

THE EARTH IS TOTALLY FROZEN AND ONLY THE PEOPLE ON THIS TRAIN CAN SAVE MAN KIND?

IS IT LOCATED IN SIBERIA...
OR the Canadian Rockies???

W.T.F.???

W
E
A
K
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 8:55 PM EST
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Just finished “Honest Liar”

Great flick.
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 9:27 PM EST
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why should we believe you?
izonfire Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 9:46 PM EST
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He’s on oxy moron.
He’ll say anything to get his next fix...
teedubbya Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 9:50 PM EST
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I liked it.
izonfire Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 10:08 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I liked it.

Another junkie.
They’re everywhere...
Sunoverbeach Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 10:14 PM EST
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Title of the thread's a pretty strong claim. Wasn't there a Spice Girls movie somewhere along the line?
smokestaxx Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, May 25 2020, 11:54 PM EST
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I always do enjoy a Jonesy movie review
Mr. Jones Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 8:19 AM EST
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#5 TW

That doesn't surprise me one bit ...
Mr. Jones Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 8:20 AM EST
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#3 Frank

Because I said so.
victor809 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 9:38 AM EST
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I don't like the general conceit of post-apocalyptic media like this. The size necessary to create a sustainable environment for humans is.... difficult to imagine making mobile. Combine that with the need for fuel to move the environment, and materials for regular maintenance, and it becomes difficult to suspend one's disbelief enough to enjoy whatever the media is trying to show (in this case class struggle).

The snowpiercer movie did a pretty good job of getting you to ignore the implausibility of the situation. I don't know about the series.
There was a book I read a while ago... apparently the first in a series about the last of humanity living in some enormous dirigibles above a post-apocalyptic earth. It did an absolute terrible job. They had scavengers who would skydive out of the dirigibles, go to the surface, scavenge for supplies, and then deploy a personal helium balloon to return to the dirigible. Whoever came up with that sh$t was an idiot. It even forced me to do the calculations to determine how much weight in pressurized helium canisters they would have to be lugging around to pull this off.... not to mention an inability to ensure you were even going to be near the dirigible when you got to the right altitude (spoiler, you'd never be able to get to the right altitude).....

Anyway... as long as it isn't as bad as that sh$t book I may still watch it.
CelticBomber Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 5:03 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I don't like the general conceit of post-apocalyptic media like this. The size necessary to create a sustainable environment for humans is.... difficult to imagine making mobile. Combine that with the need for fuel to move the environment, and materials for regular maintenance, and it becomes difficult to suspend one's disbelief enough to enjoy whatever the media is trying to show (in this case class struggle).

The snowpiercer movie did a pretty good job of getting you to ignore the implausibility of the situation. I don't know about the series.
There was a book I read a while ago... apparently the first in a series about the last of humanity living in some enormous dirigibles above a post-apocalyptic earth. It did an absolute terrible job. They had scavengers who would skydive out of the dirigibles, go to the surface, scavenge for supplies, and then deploy a personal helium balloon to return to the dirigible. Whoever came up with that sh$t was an idiot. It even forced me to do the calculations to determine how much weight in pressurized helium canisters they would have to be lugging around to pull this off.... not to mention an inability to ensure you were even going to be near the dirigible when you got to the right altitude (spoiler, you'd never be able to get to the right altitude).....

Anyway... as long as it isn't as bad as that sh$t book I may still watch it.



You can read? I figured a pretty gal like you just got by with a wink and a smile.
CelticBomber Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 5:05 PM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:


Black jelly protein bars...




You should have stuck around longer. You would have found out what those black jellies were made of...... (shiver)
SAMNAP66 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 6:21 PM EST
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I agree... stupidest frighin’ movie... It was horrible... we watched the while thing because we couldn’t believe how stupid it was...
BuckyB93 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 6:51 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I don't like the general conceit of post-apocalyptic media like this. The size necessary to create a sustainable environment for humans is.... difficult to imagine making mobile. Combine that with the need for fuel to move the environment, and materials for regular maintenance, and it becomes difficult to suspend one's disbelief enough to enjoy whatever the media is trying to show (in this case class struggle).

The snowpiercer movie did a pretty good job of getting you to ignore the implausibility of the situation. I don't know about the series.
There was a book I read a while ago... apparently the first in a series about the last of humanity living in some enormous dirigibles above a post-apocalyptic earth. It did an absolute terrible job. They had scavengers who would skydive out of the dirigibles, go to the surface, scavenge for supplies, and then deploy a personal helium balloon to return to the dirigible. Whoever came up with that sh$t was an idiot. It even forced me to do the calculations to determine how much weight in pressurized helium canisters they would have to be lugging around to pull this off.... not to mention an inability to ensure you were even going to be near the dirigible when you got to the right altitude (spoiler, you'd never be able to get to the right altitude).....

Anyway... as long as it isn't as bad as that sh$t book I may still watch it.


It was so impossible that it forced you to sit down and prove it to yourself on paper?

Are you sure you used the correct value for the gas constant and in the correct units? Might want to go back and check to see if you didn't mess up on the significant figures and miss something with the tolerance stack up.
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 6:56 PM EST
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At least Star Wars is realistic.
BuckyB93 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 7:01 PM EST
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Yeah. Can't wait for the teleporters to come back on line.

Beam me up Chewie!
Cereal City Cigar Smoker Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 8:00 PM EST
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And the series on TNT isn't any better!

d'oh!
victor809 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 8:17 PM EST
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Gas constant shouldn't be an issue.

The main issue I had to deal with is not knowing the pressure they would be able to fill the tanks to, and the thickness/weight of the metal of this sort of tank.


But given that the higher a pressure, the thicker they would need to set the tank walls at, I was pretty confident in my estimations. :)

But yes. I did open an excel sheet and start plugging numbers in to see what volume at 1atm would be necessary of helium to lift 1 person (plus equipment, including a tank that previously held all said helium) and then figured out what size tank would be necessary (I don't recall what pressure I had to choose for that) etc etc.

It was way more than you would want to carry while running around in a post apocalypse.
BuckyB93 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 9:06 PM EST
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Well, you could have discounted the weight of the empty tank. Why would you carry the empty tank unless it would be needed for a future refill? Fire up that spreadsheet.

Why use He? H would be better lb for lb.

Also, based on the ideal gas law, volume is pressure and temperature dependent (just ask Tom Brady) so as it rose, both the surrounding temp and pressure drops so you'd have to integrate over the assumed temperature and pressure gradient. You could simulate it if you wrote a script in something like Python and have it do the number crunching.

Maybe the right way to calculate it is to determine the number of moles needed then just plug in temp and pressure at given points of interest.

Or you could just say "F-it" and watch the Holy Grail instead - a much more enjoyable movie and you'd only have to calculate the air speed of a fully laden swallow.
teedubbya Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 9:11 PM EST
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I like trains.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 9:19 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Or you could just say "F-it" and watch the Holy Grail instead - a much more enjoyable movie and you'd only have to calculate the air speed of a fully laden swallow.



European or African???

LolFrying pan
victor809 Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, May 26 2020, 10:46 PM EST
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They said they used He... I suppose it's logical to avoid risk of explosion over the hundreds of years they theoretically have been hanging out in the air.

And if you are limited to only what you have on a dirigible, you're not going to abandon empty He canisters on the surface. You would run out eventually if you didn't refill.
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