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PMoreno349 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 07-05-2002
Posts: 665
Can anybody tell me if they have noticed a correlation between the color of the ash and the cigar flavor?

I keep hearing about the virtues of white ash, but I have smoked a lot of tasty cigars where the ash was grey and flaky and on the flipside, I have smoke cigars with perfectly formed white ash, which seemed unremarkable.

Also, it seems to me that most of my favorite cigars have little white dots in the ash. What is that all about?
xibbumbero Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2002
Posts: 12,535
PM,Those are the dead bugs. X
SteveS Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
It's been my general observation that a firm white ash is a sign of quality, but as you say, there are exceptions in both directions ...
jd1 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 02-14-2001
Posts: 3,118
I'm not completely positive, but I believe the ash color is a reflection of the soil in which the tobacco was grown. As for the quality of the smoke, use your palate and nose to discern and make your judgement as one person's smoke may be another person's dogrocket!
Slimboli Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
If a cigar has a white ash, it shows that there is magnasium in the soil where the tobacco was grown ...

It is also a sure fire way to tell if the Cuban cigar you are smoking is a fake. The island of Cuba lacks magnesium in its soil, and the ash will be a very dark gray to even black ... hence, the more magnesium, the whiter the ash.

This is from CA's Cigar's 101:

'According to most cigar experts, a white ash is better than a gray one. This is not merely an aesthetic issue, either. "...if the soil produces a white ash - the better soil gives a whiter ash and more taste," says Fuente. He says that certain manipulations of soil can be made through fertilization, but if too much magnesium (a key ingredient in producing white ash) is added to the mix, the ash will flake, and nobody wants a messy cigar, even if the ash is white.

Of course, ash is not something you taste or smell, but a gray ash indicates that the soil was lacking certain key nutrients, leaving the cigar with insubstantial body, or perhaps little complexity-resulting in a lesser smoke.'
PMoreno349 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-05-2002
Posts: 665
Thanks, Slim. I am still interested in hearing from people to see if, in their experience, they can tell a difference in flavor.
SteveS Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
I may have been less than clear in what I said above ... when I said I've thought it to be a sign of quality, I did not mean that in an abstract way, but in the sense that in smoking cigars that yeild a firm white ash, I've observed them to be better smokes than those that yeild grey ashes ...

I think the whiter ash cigars tend to be smoother, whether mild, medium or full-bodied ... those with the grey ash tend toward being somewhat more harsh, whether mild, medium or full-bodied ...

But, as others have already indicated, taste is a highly individual thing and I'm speaking in broad generalities ... exceptions exist in BOTH directions.
cliffie3d Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 07-17-2002
Posts: 297
I've never even paid attention to the ash color. I couldn't tell you what color any of my favorites are. All I care about is whether or not it holds together. I don't like ash flaking all over me while I'm trying to look cool. ;) Now an even burn, regardless of color, does impress me, although it doesn't really add to the experience for me. All I'm looking for is taste and a smooth draw.
jjohnson28 Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
Posts: 7,914
Ha! Those Fuente guys what do they know...
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