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Poll Question : What is it about a song most important to you?
Choice Votes Statistics
The music itself. 12 85 %
The lyrics. 1 7 %
The voice of the singer 1 7 %
Total 14 100%

Songs: The Key Component
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8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:35 AM EST
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Been kicking this around for a while. The easy answer would be all three are important.

If you think about non-instrumental songs, is it the music, the lyrics, or the sound of the voice of the singer that makes you really love a tune?

Let's hear it. Harharharhar.
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:36 AM EST
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All three are important.
8trackdisco Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:37 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
All three are important.


I now wish upon you, 5 additional hours of corporate training.
Ram27 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:38 AM EST
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The music 🎶
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:41 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
I now wish upon you, 5 additional hours of corporate training.


I was practicing equity and inclusion.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:49 AM EST
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Of course 8Track leaves OUT cowbell.
8trackdisco Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 11:12 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Of course 8Track leaves OUT cowbell.


Growing up on a dairy farm, it is a given Cowbell being most important. Although I do appreciate you making sure my head is on straight.

Am mooooooving along.

Thanks, Z.
MACS Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 11:24 AM EST
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Non-instrumental?? Would have to be the voice of the singer.

Otherwise, it's the music. The instruments and how well it is arranged to my ear. I like many genres of music, as long as it's done well.
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 1:26 PM EST
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My choice would be melody.
Gene363 Online
#10 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 1:42 PM EST
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The combination of all three. It's the synergistic collateral benefit that makes a hit.
Palama Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 1:57 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
My choice would be melody.


+1

Not all songs have lyrics nor require a vocalist but imo without a good melody, the other two could be rendered inconsequential.
RiverRatRuss Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 2:10 PM EST
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Gary Rossington/ Last Member of Lynyrd Skynyrd
https://youtu.be/WeiHzZdxCSI

Anything Skynyrd, Bob Seger, Eagles etc. Road Songs and Memories of Road Trips!!! Herfing
RiverRatRuss Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 2:17 PM EST
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I do not shoot pool anywhere they don't have music, I drowned out the Bull**** & Banter that goes on around me... and zone in on the Pool Table and our company around the table... If I'm not in my zone, I toss down more beer and or a puff puff or two until total focus at task at hand, local folks at the bar know when im in the element on the table and they'll stop talking and watched when I get a challenge for a beer! They tell people Im playing watch out for that guy when he gets alcohol in him, the more the better he'll play ya... a couple guys I've played quite often will see me and say "RACK EM"

https://youtu.be/6HkSkjnBJNQ
RiverRatRuss Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 2:37 PM EST
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Eat a Peach Allman Brothers.... ALL of them...

https://youtu.be/DO00NGenqrY

Gary Allman Motorcycle Crash...

History of Southern Rock...Herfing

https://youtu.be/_E1I-ERdJYU
plinytheelder Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 2:53 PM EST
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Most important? I'd have to go with the manner in which they hook you.
Sometimes it's a drum fill, or a small guitar solo, or a vocal placement.

All really good songs have a hook to them.


BTW, thanks for the Allman Bros Russ. Haven't heard that in a long time. It was one of the albums of "High School".
RiverRatRuss Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 3:13 PM EST
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plinytheelder wrote:
Most important? I'd have to go with the manner in which they hook you.
Sometimes it's a drum fill, or a small guitar solo, or a vocal placement.

All really good songs have a hook to them.


BTW, thanks for the Allman Bros Russ. Haven't heard that in a long time. It was one of the albums of "High School".


it also is the mood and situation you are in at the moment! Tragic situation to a getting a Nut situation the same song can effect your situation and have different meanings when you catch it.

Yes High School for myself as with all Southern Rockers!!!
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 3:17 PM EST
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Are talking music or chants..?? Huh
Palama Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 3:32 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Are talking music or chants..?? Huh


When I first glanced at the thread title, I thought it was about the Stevie Wonder album, "Songs in the Key of Life".

Oops! d'oh!
RiverRatRuss Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 3:38 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Are talking music or chants..?? Huh


Some folks sing in the shower, I myself Chant... Oh you coulda had it, Oh your gunna get it!!! Chit like that as I soap up...d'oh! Beer
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 4:08 PM EST
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More corporate training for me.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 7:57 PM EST
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For me it's the music. I can deal with a so so singer as long as there's a good tune. And without said tune, the greatest vocalist in history won't keep me interested.

Lyrics are right out. If the other aspects are on point, any old gibberish can sound great.

Goo goo g'joob, muddafuggas!
MACS Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 8:11 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
For me it's the music. I can deal with a so so singer as long as there's a good tune. And without said tune, the greatest vocalist in history won't keep me interested.

Lyrics are right out. If the other aspects are on point, any old gibberish can sound great.

Goo goo g'joob, muddafuggas!


See: Eddie Vedder, Pearl Jam.
8trackdisco Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 9:59 PM EST
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Wife tells me there is no way the words are most important in my world, because I'm always singing the wrong ones.
BuckyB93 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2023, 10:39 PM EST
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I don't think there is a universal answer. Some songs I focus on a(n) particular instrument(s), some on the lyrics, some on voice.

For example:
Bob Dylan - in many songs, his voice is atrocious but the lyrics in many songs are great.
James Brown - lyrics are not that impressive but the band around him is tight and full of sound.
Rush - many can't stand Geddy Lee's voice but the music and the lyrics are great.
Primus - how can you not zoom in on the bass play from Claypool?
RiverRatRuss Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2023, 8:59 AM EST
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https://youtu.be/QoEZa5oG4b4
8trackdisco Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2023, 8:59 AM EST
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No votes for the lyrics as most important.
McCartney better not be readying this thread.

At least Lennon isn't.
RiverRatRuss Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2023, 9:19 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
No votes for the lyrics as most important.
McCartney better not be readying this thread.

At least Lennon isn't.


Oh NO... Still undecided after all these years if it was Yoko or Sir' Paul who had Lennon Wacked? possibly both of them as they realled off the Royalties... Think


Yesterday!!!

Look at all the Lonley People!!! Herfing
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2023, 8:31 PM EST
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The music itself...includes melody, rhythm, harmonies, tempo...the melody is the signature of a song tho and is what identifies the song in my mind's ear...sometimes just hearing the first one or two notes of a melody, one can tell what song it is...
BuckyB93 Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2023, 10:45 PM EST
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^ agree

Music is the candy for our ears (and brain) just like smell is candy for our nose.

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