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RayR Offline
#101 Posted:
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Robert, you must excuse HD's amusing rhetorical devices even if you don't understand that they are not meant in a literal sense.
In a figurative sense, a "lynching" is what it is, the left is on a crusade to disparage that pesky conservative judge by any means possible and banish him from the court...period.
You seem to have bought into the charade.

Clarence Thomas's appearance of impropriety that taints him as you call it is he has a wealthy long-time family friend who respects him and has shown him hospitality.
He even helped him in a small way to help educate his teenage grandnephew Mark Martin who he has had legal custody of. since he was 6 years old. Sinful huh?
HockeyDad Offline
#102 Posted:
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Defend the appearance of impropriety. I cannot. He should never have become a black conservative. It is not allowed.

Defend the taint he has created- for himself and SCOTUS. I cannot. He should never have overturned Rowe versus Wade. ( and be a black conservative)

Convince me that what he did was OK. I cannot. There are no circumstances where it is OK to be a black conservative.

This is the way.




If Clarence Thomas had actually done anything wrong, surely it would only be a byproduct of systemic racism. That is enough for grounds for forgiveness and even reparations. Send C Thomas a cigar, rfenst!


rfenst Offline
#103 Posted:
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Quote:
=HockeyDad]Defend the appearance of impropriety. I cannot. He should never have become a black conservative. It is not allowed.

Defend the taint he has created- for himself and SCOTUS. I cannot. He should never have overturned Rowe versus Wade. ( and be a black conservative)

Convince me that what he did was OK. I cannot. There are no circumstances where it is OK to be a black conservative.

This is the way.[/q]




If Clarence Thomas had actually done anything wrong, surely it would only be a byproduct of systemic racism. That is enough for grounds for forgiveness and even reparations. Send C Thomas a cigar, rfenst!


Kick his sorry @ss off SCOTUS.
I'd even let the R's pick his replacement to get rid of the taint!

Tom, race has zero to do with my opinion of him as a SCOTUS Justice. I couldn't care less. And, its not his Opinions either. He adds nothing to SCOTUS, but taint.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#104 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Kick his sorry @ss off SCOTUS.
I'd even let the R's pick his replacement to get rid of the taint!

Tom, race has zero to do with my opinion of him as a SCOTUS Justice. I couldn't care less. And, its not his Opinions either. He adds nothing to SCOTUS, but taint.



That's you, but Tom has the democrats pegged dead to rights. They cannot have a Black conservative Pro-Life Justice.

There's no F'n way Schumer lets anyone BUT the DNC pick their court for them. There's boxes to check...and such.
RayR Offline
#105 Posted:
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It's no use boys, Robert seems full of HATE and wants Thomas lynched off the court, nothing will change his mind.
HockeyDad Offline
#106 Posted:
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Fun facts:

When Thomas was nominated by George HW Bush to replace Thurgood Marshall, Democrats were overjoyed that a Republican President appointed the second black member of the US Supreme Court.

Clarence Thomas cruised through his confirmation hearing with massive Democrat support.

Prior to the recent expose by ProPublica regarding his financial disclosures, Thomas was considered a darling of the Supreme Court and welcomed and loved by Democrats throughout his years on the court. He was even routinely invited to Democrat leadership birthday parties!

ProPublica also conducted exposes into the other eight judges’ financial disclosures.

Pelosi and Schumer once looked into charging Clarence Thomas under the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 but discovered it had been repealed.

The Democratic Party is not racist.


(None of the above is true!)
ZRX1200 Offline
#107 Posted:
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LMMFPWAO

That’s funnier than Robert posting Paul Krugman pieces!
rfenst Offline
#108 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Fun facts:

When Thomas was nominated by George HW Bush to replace Thurgood Marshall, Democrats were overjoyed that a Republican President appointed the second black member of the US Supreme Court.

Clarence Thomas cruised through his confirmation hearing with massive Democrat support.

Prior to the recent expose by ProPublica regarding his financial disclosures, Thomas was considered a darling of the Supreme Court and welcomed and loved by Democrats throughout his years on the court. He was even routinely invited to Democrat leadership birthday parties!

ProPublica also conducted exposes into the other eight judges’ financial disclosures.

Pelosi and Schumer once looked into charging Clarence Thomas under the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 but discovered it had been repealed.

The Democratic Party is not racist.


(None of the above is true!)


He does not participate in oral arguments.
He has taken a $hit-ton of money and favors/gifts way behind what is appropriate.
He failed to report the sale of land.
His wife hid her pay.
He failed to report the money, favors/giftts and income.He knew exactly what he was/wasn't doing.

Look at his disclosures, I think on the SCOTUS website. I have read them. There are multiple questions which should have triggered disclosure for years. Lies by omission. You pull anything like that as any type of judge/justice and you are gone.

That is my professional and purely legal/judicial assesment. It's also all I have been writing about. The rest of anything you have mentioned or attribute to me are not my beleifs or words. Again, race has zero to do with any of my opinion. Neitther do his votes or politics.

Want to bet there will be more to come out on him (and others). He may not be the only one who needs to go IMNSHO.
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#109 Posted:
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I may be wrong here, but if I recall correctly SCOTUS judges don't have a specific code of ethics, unlike the remainder of the federal bench.
rfenst Offline
#110 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I may be wrong here, but if I recall correctly SCOTUS judges don't have a specific code of ethics, unlike the remainder of the federal bench.

No.
SCOTUS does not have the same code required of all other judges/justices.
But, that doesn't change a thing.
HockeyDad Offline
#111 Posted:
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I’m still waiting to see the charges filed against Clarence Thomas.

Pack the Supreme Court.
Delegitimize the Supreme Court
Pick off individual judges
Eliminate the Supreme Court.

It has outlived its usefulness to the Democrats.

Meanwhile Chuck Schumer has introduced legislation targeted at Thomas.
The No Organized Outings Supreme Effects Act. (NOOSE) Act will limit friends that might be able to give gifts.
RayR Offline
#112 Posted:
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HD, remembering what you said before, I thought you would enjoy this short clip. This fat white ANTI-FASCIST clown with the man bun says "...being a black conservative like categorically means you don't have much common sense, yeah"

https://youtube.com/shorts/PO_b_Osv41s?feature=share
rfenst Offline
#113 Posted:
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What Congress can do, right now, about Justice Thomas



WAPO Editorial Board

As reports about the financial dealings https://www.cigarbid.com...ors/yafEditor/bold.gifof Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, dribble out, the country’s institutions of government appear to be stuck. The Supreme Court issued a statement suggesting the justices would change little about their ethics rules — or the lack thereof. Members of Congress have introduced bills that would force the court to adopt an ethics code, but Republican opposition probably dooms the legislation, at least for now.

Yet federal lawmakers can still respond usefully, using their oversight powers to clarify the record, examine how existing judicial transparency mandates are working and, in the process, show that justices who skirt disclosure will at least suffer public scrutiny.

The accounts keep coming. ProPublica reported that Justice Thomas repeatedly failed to disclose the extent of his financial relationship with Texas billionaire Harlan Crow, who has bought three properties from the justice and his relatives, took him on numerous luxury vacations and even paid for the justice’s grandnephew to attend expensive private schools.

A Post investigation then found that the conservative judicial activist Leonard Leo arranged to pay Ms. Thomas tens of thousands of dollars for consulting work, insisting that no mention of her name appear on any paperwork related to the transactions.

Lawmakers should probe, firstly, what happened in the Crow matter. What else might Justice Thomas have accepted from Mr. Crow? What was the nature of Mr. Crow’s relationship with Justice Thomas, and how did it develop? This could require testimony from Mr. Crow himself, particularly if Justice Thomas fails to revise his disclosure forms.

There’s more. Did the other justices’ disclosure forms — or what Justice Thomas himself had thought was necessary to disclose in the past — suggest that Justice Thomas’s lack of transparency on the Crow windfall was unusual? Are congressionally mandated disclosure requirements — or their application, overseen by the Judicial Conference — stringent enough? On that score, it would be useful — and legitimate — for lawmakers to hear from Judicial Conference representatives about how justices’ disclosures are scrutinized, and what guidance was in place before a recent clarification about the need to report private jet travel.

The (latest) revelations concerning Ms. Thomas are trickier for Congress to investigate because they involve not a justice but a justice’s spouse, who faces no formal expectation to disclose publicly her business dealings. Yet the unattractive flow of secret money Mr. Leo apparently directed raises questions about when justices should be expected to recuse themselves because of their spouses’ financial arrangements — and about whether the existing disclosure rules, which don’t mandate revealing underlying sources of income, are adequate. The Leo-directed payments went to Ms. Thomas’s firm, Liberty Consulting, but only through a polling company owned by Kellyanne Conway that was in turn working for a Leo-affiliated group, the Judicial Education Project.

In both cases, Congress has a legitimate legislative purpose in asking questions. If not immediately, at some point Congress might attempt to impose transparency, recusal and other rules on the court.

That prospect, even if seemingly remote right now, should jolt the court into action. The justices owe the public the sort of transparency and ethical adherence that virtually every other part of the government follows — and that, by the way, lower courts observe, too. They should show they will right their ethical ship before lawmakers try to fix it from the outside.
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Justice Clarence Thomas reportedly attended Koch network donor events

New report comes as some justices have suggested the Supreme Court should act on ethics issues

WAPO

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas flew on a private jet in 2018 to speak at the annual winter donor summit of the Koch network — a trip that was intended to be a fundraising draw for the influential conservative political organization with interests before the court, according to a report published Friday by ProPublica.

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At the summit, held in Palm Springs, Calif., Thomas attended a private dinner for the Koch network’s donors, ProPublica reported. According to the outlet, it was at least the second time Thomas had attended a meeting of the network founded by billionaire industrialist Charles Koch and his brother, David Koch, who died in 2019. Thomas did not disclose the 2018 trip, ProPublica reported.

The revelation adds to the controversies facing Thomas and the court more broadly that have led Democrats and court transparency advocates to call for the nine justices to adopt a binding code of ethics.

In recent weeks, at least two of the justices have publicly suggested the court should act. Justice Elena Kagan on Friday said she and her colleagues could adapt the policy that governs all lower court judges to reflect the unique structure of the Supreme Court.

“I think it would be a good thing for the court to do,” Kagan said during a live-streamed conversation with the dean of Notre Dame’s law school. “It would help in our own compliance with the rules, and it would, I think, go far in persuading other people that we were adhering to highest standards of conduct.”

Kagan noted that Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh had also recently said he hoped the court would soon take steps to address ethics issues.

The latest ProPublica report focused on Thomas’s interactions with the Koch network, which has given millions of dollars to a conservative legal organization behind one of the Supreme Court’s biggest cases of the term that begins in October. The group, Cause of Action Institute, is asking the justices to overturn a decades-old precedent long targeted by conservatives concerned about the power of federal government agencies. The precedent has been used extensively by the government to defend environmental, financial and consumer protection regulations.

In response to the report, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) called for Thomas to recuse himself from the case, questioning whether the justice could be impartial because of his previously undisclosed involvement with the Koch network.

Thomas did not respond to a request for comment through a Supreme Court spokesperson. In a statement, a representative for the Koch network, which is formally known as Stand Together, pushed back on the notion that Thomas’s presence at the 2018 donor summit was improper.

“There is a long tradition of public officials, including Supreme Court Justices, sharing their experiences, ideas, and judicial philosophy with members of the public at dinners and other events,” Stand Together spokeswoman Gretchen Reiter stated. “All of the sitting Justices and many who came before them have contributed to the national dialogue in speeches, book tours, and social gatherings. Our events are no different. To claim otherwise is false.”

ProPublica previously reported on Thomas’s friendship with influential Republican donor Harlan Crow, who over two decades has lavished gifts and financial favors upon Thomas. Crow has denied any impropriety and said the two do not discuss Supreme Court cases.

The gifts Thomas accepted from Crow have included luxury vacations around the globe — notably, travel on a superyacht and private jet — that were not disclosed by the justice, according to ProPublica. Subsequent investigations by the outlet revealed that Crow also paid the private school tuition for one of Thomas’s relatives. It also reported that Thomas had failed to disclose a real estate deal in which Crow purchased and renovated a house where Thomas’s mother was living.

In a statement in April, Thomas said “colleagues and others in the judiciary” had advised him that luxury trips financed by Crow were “personal hospitality” that did not have to be disclosed, and he maintained that Crow and his wife were among his “dearest friends.”

Ethics rules for federal judges and the nine justices, which were revised in March, made clear that starting with the 2022 forms, judges and justices must report trips by private jet. In his most recent financial disclosure report made public in August, Thomas reported three trips on Crow’s private jet in 2022 and for the first time detailed Crow’s purchase of properties from the justice’s family years earlier.

The Washington Post has also reported that Thomas has for years claimed income from a defunct real estate firm and that a conservative judicial activist arranged for Thomas’s wife, Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, to be paid tens of thousands of dollars for consulting work but with the specification that she not be mentioned on the billing paperwork.

The scrutiny on Thomas’s decades-long relationship with Crow has sparked investigations, calls for him to resign or be removed, and at least one lawsuit. In April, Senate Democrats publicly urged Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. to start his own investigation into Crow’s gifts to Thomas, and in July, the Senate Judiciary Committee advanced a bill that would require the Supreme Court to adopt a binding code of ethics.

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) and Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) in April called on the Judicial Conference, the federal court system’s policymaking body, to refer Thomas to the U.S. attorney general for potential ethics violations.

“Oh, my,” Whitehouse said in a social media post Friday in response to the latest ProPublica report. “More undisclosed private jet travel... more engagement with billionaire-funded organizations scheming to influence the Court.”

Also in April, the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed a civil and criminal complaint against Thomas, saying that his acceptance and failure to disclose “repeated, lavish gifts” undermined confidence in the Supreme Court as an institution.

Democratic lawmakers renewed their calls for ethics reform at the Supreme Court after ProPublica reported in June on Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.'s relationship with Paul Singer, a billionaire hedge fund manager, as well as conservative judicial activist Leonard Leo’s role in organizing a trip Alito took with Singer to an Alaskan fishing resort. Alito responded to the report — before it had even published — in a Wall Street Journal guest column titled “ProPublica Misleads Its Readers.”

Alito has dismissed the idea that Congress has the authority to impose ethical standards on the high court. He told the Journal in an interview that “no provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court — period.”

Kagan demurred when asked at Notre Dame on Friday whether she could say which justice was holding up progress on reaching consensus.

“No! What goes on in the conference room goes on in the conference room,” she said.

“I don’t want to suggest that there is one hold out,” Kagan added in response to the question from the law school dean, G. Marcus Cole. “There are complicated issues here. There are totally good-faith disagreements or concerns, if you will. There are some things to be worked out, and I hope we can get them worked out.”
HockeyDad Offline
#115 Posted:
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They really hate that black guy!
rfenst Offline
#116 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
They really hate that black guy!

NOT because he is black.
Because he appears to to be so tainted.
Even if Rs wins the Presidency and the Senate, they need to replace him immediately.
Word.
ZRX1200 Offline
#117 Posted:
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Not because he’s black.

Because he’s black and has wondered off the leftist plantation.
RayR Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Not because he’s black.

Because he’s black and has wondered off the leftist plantation.


This is true, they want him lynched, whipped and canceled because he doesn't know his place.
rfenst Offline
#119 Posted:
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Your both wearing blinders while living in an ethical vacuum.
RayR Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Your both wearing blinders while living in an ethical vacuum.


We've got no blinders on son and don't preach to us about ethics. We know that Thomas as a judge that kinda knows what those words in the Constitution mean stands in the way of the unethical LEFTIES seeking more power and plunder.
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#121 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Your both wearing blinders while living in an ethical vacuum.


Do you support the Biden crime family?
HockeyDad Offline
#122 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Your both wearing blinders while living in an ethical vacuum.


But not me. I used to work for the Democrats. I’m an insider.

All Clarence Thomas needs is to start hanging out with Mark Zuckerberg and he will be considered rehabilitated.
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HockeyDad wrote:
But not me. I used to work for the Democrats.



You Bassard..!! Mad
ZRX1200 Offline
#124 Posted:
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Blinders?!!

Bro….you have no idea the 💩 we see from judges here.

I see someone who’s effective and guilty or not this is THE most effective method of attack. Their decisions from the bench affect this country and these haven’t been going well for the left. If they were I doubt this would be a blip on the radar.
HockeyDad Offline
#125 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
You Bassard..!! Mad


They paid me very well!
DrafterX Offline
#126 Posted:
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Tailored suits, chauffeured cars
Fine hotels and big cigars
Up for grabs, up for a price
Where the red hot girls keep on dancing through the night
The claim is on you, the sights are on me
So what do you do that's guaranteed?
Hey little girl, you want it all
The furs, the diamonds, the painting on the wall
Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk
Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk


Beer
rfenst Offline
#127 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Blinders?!!

Bro….you have no idea the 💩 we see from judges here.

I see someone who’s effective and guilty or not this is THE most effective method of attack. Their decisions from the bench affect this country and these haven’t been going well for the left. If they were I doubt this would be a blip on the radar.


The sole issue is that that he clearly appears to be tainted.

As I said above, I want him replaced ASAP, even if by a Republican President and Republican Senate, and even if it means his potentially even more conservative replacement could serve 25+ years or longer. That proves my politics have nothing to do with this.

If you think I want this for any reason other than judicial ethics, you are dead wrong.
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