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There's a real Master Class breakdown highlighted in blue text.


BLM 2.0? Will Campus Chaos Across America's Woke Universities Spread To The Streets



Before diving into the overnight turmoil of violent clashes at some of America's most progressive universities, let's begin with this post from a user on X, suggesting that the woke mind virus is at work here:

I can't believe I have to explain what's happening here, but here goes. Elite students of Ivy League schools have glamorized oppression so much that they have now reached role play status to satisfy their fantasies. Here, the students have appropriated the suffering of Gazans and are cosplaying as living through humanitarian crisis. In their American make-believe story where Ivy League infrastructure sets the scene, the students play Gazans and the school administration plays Israel.

Israel (the school) is blocking their "basic humanitarian aid" in this play, and if they don't receive it soon, they will "die of thirst and starvation" (appropriating exact experiences of Gazans). They also destroy upper class buildings and claim them as "liberated" while the students repeat chants in zombie-like chorus, playing the roll of "freedom fighters" destroying Israeli infrastructure and claiming them freed. If I'm alive in a world where people don't see the levels of perversion in this, I give up.

You don't see this in lower tier schools from kids of lower socio-economic standing because they aren't plagued with the guilt of privilege that they're seeking to launder through Middle East role plays of feigned suffering. This is as first world dystopia as it gets.

Meanwhile, these Ivy League students who can have much more than a glass of water and as much food as their stomachs can take are commanding the attention of the media and the entire American audience, while actual Gazans who need humanitarian aid are ignored. I still have to pinch myself that people don't see this.

In recent weeks, student protests—some funded by George Soros—have erupted throughout some of America's wokest universities and colleges.

Students and/or possibly paid agitators have erected around-the-clock encampments at Columbia University in New York City, Yale University, New York University, Harvard University, University of Texas at Austin, and the University of Southern California.

On Tuesday night, there was a nationwide effort by school administrations and local police forces to disband pro-Palestinian protesters from campuses.

Let's begin with scenes from Columbia University. Police in riot gear stormed students occupying Hamilton Hall and cleared a nearby protest encampment on the college's lawn.

At least 100 protesters were arrested Tuesday night at Columbia University and City College of New York, according to NYPD officials.

.@Columbia University — Video shows a bus full of the unmasked extremists who were arrested following a violent siege for Gaza. Far-left groups have already fundraised the money for any possible bail and legal fees to reward rioters. pic.twitter.com/yWYPCzmzx5
— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) May 1, 2024

On the US West Coast, violent clashes erupted on the University of California campus in Los Angeles between pro-Palestinian protesters and counter-protesters.

UCLA 🚨: FIGHTS continue through the night. Dozens injured , multiple bleeding, still ZERO law enforcement present. Both sides drag their wounded and fresh protestors replace them on the front. Total Anarchy. pic.twitter.com/Fl6T35zJRc
— Anthony Cabassa (@AnthonyCabassa_) May 1, 2024

UCLA 🚨 3:20 am, LAPD has successfully cleared the area separating both factions. However, overhearing police, their orders are not to arrest anyone or clear the encampment, simply to separate both opposing protest groups. pic.twitter.com/i9NtEGdG5O
— Anthony Cabassa (@AnthonyCabassa_) May 1, 2024

LA Mayor Karen Bass said early Wednesday that the LAPD "has arrived on campus" at UCLA.

The violence unfolding this evening at UCLA is absolutely abhorrent and inexcusable.

LAPD has arrived on campus.
— Mayor Karen Bass (@MayorOfLA) May 1, 2024

Besides Columbia and UCLA, chaos spreads across universities (list courtesy of CNN):

University of North Carolina Chapel Hill: At least 36 protesters were detained at an encampment. Police officers were seen physically pushing back protesters. Demonstrators took down the campus US flag and replaced it with a Palestinian flag.

Florida State University: Five people, among them two students, were arrested during a demonstration Tuesday, the school said.

University of Texas-Austin: Police presence on campus and arrests are "dwindling" law enforcement resources, Travis County prosecutor Delia Garza said, and called for the university to initiate a compromise with student protest organizers. Nearly 80 people were arrested on campus Monday and Garza's office is processing at least 65 criminal trespass cases, she said.

University of Southern California: President Carol Folt engaged in a second meeting with protesters on campus, but no agreement was reached

Occupied buildings and security: Portland State University President Ann Cudd asked students to voluntarily leave the library they are occupying and said the university is in touch with police about removing students.

Cleared encampments: Some universities, such as Yale and Brown, have cleared protest encampments after reaching agreements with students. Brown University student protesters have reached an agreement to disband their encampment after the university agreed to hold a vote on divestment from companies that support Israel.

And the list of schools continues to expand (courtesy of CNN):

University of Arizona police use chemical irritant as campus protests continue

Tulane University classes go remote, police in riot gear on campus amid protests

What's the biggest takeaway here? Well, as one X user wrote, "Privileged white Ivy-League people acting as Privileged white Ivy-League people."

There are mounting calls to ban destructive cultural Marxism on campuses.

Surprise, surprise

The news spokesperson for the takeover of a building at Columbia is a Marxist

How many people told me the most deadly ideology of the last century has nothing to do with the protests?

I say again: #BanMarxism in government funded entities https://t.co/454L7c45NG
— John Ʌ Konrad V (@johnkonrad) April 30, 2024

It's an election year. None of this is surprising. The chaos seems like an echo wave from the BLM riots several years ago. Be on watch, as this could spill over from campuses to city streets in the summer months.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/campus-chaos-spreads-across-woke-american-universities-police-respond-pro-palestinian


If only Hamas would release all hostages.
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^So true.

Also, don't forget that things have to get bad enough on "the street" to require greater levels of mail-in voting.
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You are correct! The whole dairy infected with bird flu fell apart once the known issue of pasteurization was remembered. That disappeared quick!
Abrignac Offline
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So now the protesters are demanding vegan and gluten free food? WTF does that have to do with Israel? Or did they forget to pack a lunch before the headed out and they expect their oppressors to feed them while they occupy and damage their property? Such a lost generation.
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Paid protesters whining about the cafeteria. Truly a spoiled and coddled lot.
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As most of these tent cities are on grass they have an unlimited food supply. Problem solved. Next!
jeebling Offline
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😂
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Speyside2 wrote:
As most of these tent cities are on grass they have an unlimited food supply. Problem solved. Next!



Considering most aren’t capable of thinking for themselves they’d die of starvation before they figure it out.
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True, true.
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Plus, it's gluten free!
jeebling Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Considering most aren’t capable of thinking for themselves they’d die of starvation before they figure it out.


Like Spey said…problem solved 😂
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I heard from sources that they are also negotiating Almond milk only for their Lattes. This could be what actually breaks their encampments. It is starting to happen in Washington, most specifically Seattle. Can you imagine drinking Starbucks black? It makes me retch to even think about that.
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The remaining leadership of Hamas is apparently trying to negotiate some sort of peace before IDF forces find reach their door. For far too long they have been way behind the front lines enjoying relative peace while the foot soldiers did their bidding. Now that the end is near for them they want a stall. Why? So they can escape their just due and plan for another campaign at some later date after they rebuild their shredded organization? At this point it seems clear to me that Israel won’t stop until they finally cut the head off.
jeebling Offline
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Hamas has duped the West for far too long. I hope the IDF finds the leaders of Hamas. I hope Israel will refuse to do things that are not in the best interest of Israel.
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jeebling wrote:
Hamas has duped the West for far too long. I hope the IDF finds the leaders of Hamas. I hope Israel will refuse to do things that are not in the best interest of Israel.



Speaking of being duped...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-changed-cease-fire-deal-to-let-them-include-bodies-of-dead-hostages-in-prisoner-swap-report/ar-BB1lVvWE


You cannot deal with terrorists.
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Abrignac wrote:
The remaining leadership of Hamas is apparently trying to negotiate some sort of peace before IDF forces find reach their door. For far too long they have been way behind the front lines enjoying relative peace while the foot soldiers did their bidding. Now that the end is near for them they want a stall. Why? So they can escape their just due and plan for another campaign at some later date after they rebuild their shredded organization? At this point it seems clear to me that Israel won’t stop until they finally cut the head off.




Palestinians look at the site of an Israeli strike on a house, amid the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip May 5

The deal lays out a timetable for release of Israeli captives in Gaza and withdrawal of Israel’s troops from territory.

Al Jazeera 6 May 2024

Al Jazeera has obtained a copy of the Gaza ceasefire proposal that Hamas said it accepted on Monday. The deal, which was put forward by Egypt and Qatar, would come in three stages that would see an initial halt in the fighting leading to lasting calm and the withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Palestinian territory.

The proposed agreement would also ensure the release of Israeli captives in Gaza as well as an unspecified number of Palestinians held in Israeli jails.

Israel has said that it does not agree to the proposal but that it will engage in further talks to secure an agreement – all while pushing on with its assault on Gaza.

Meanwhile, the United States, which is also involved in the negotiations, said it is reviewing the Hamas response.

Here’s the text of the proposed deal:


Paper by the mediators in Egypt on May 5, 2024
The basic principles for an agreement between the Israeli side and the Palestinian side in Gaza on the exchange of captives and prisoners between them and the return of sustainable calm.

The framework agreement aims at: The release of all Israeli captives in the Gaza Strip, civilians or military, alive or otherwise, from all periods, in exchange for a number of prisoners held by Israel as agreed upon, and a return to a sustainable calm that leads to a permanent ceasefire and a withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Gaza Strip, its reconstruction and the lifting of the siege.

The framework agreement consists of three related and interconnected stages, which are as follows:

The first stage (42 days)
[Herein] a temporary cessation of military operations between the two parties, and the withdrawal of Israeli forces eastward and away from densely populated areas to a defined area along the border all along the Gaza Strip (including Wadi Gaza, known as the Netzarim Corridor, and Kuwait Roundabout, as below).

All aviation (military and reconnaissance) in the Gaza Strip shall cease for 10 hours a day, and for 12 hours on the days when captives and prisoners are being exchanged.

Internally displaced people in Gaza shall return to their areas of residence and Israel shall withdraw from Wadi Gaza, the Netzarim corridor, and the Kuwait Roundabout:

On the third day (after the release of three captives), Israeli forces are to withdraw completely from al-Rashid Street in the east to Salah al-Din Street, and dismantle military sites and installations in this area.

Displaced persons (unarmed) shall return to their areas of residence and all residents of Gaza shall be allowed freedom of movement in all parts of the Strip.

Humanitarian aid shall be allowed in via al-Rashid Street from the first day without any obstacles.

On the 22nd day (after the release of half the living civilian captives in Gaza, including female soldiers), Israeli forces are to withdraw from the centre of the Gaza Strip (especially the Netzarim/Martyrs Corridor and the Kuwait Roundabout axis), from the east of Salah al-Din Street to a zone along the border, and all military sites and installations are to be completely dismantled.

Displaced people shall be allowed to return to their places of residence in the north of Gaza, and all residents to have freedom of movement in all parts of the Gaza Strip.

Humanitarian aid, relief materials and fuel (600 trucks a day, including 50 fuel trucks, and 300 trucks for the north) shall be allowed into Gaza in an intensive manner and in sufficient quantities from the first day. This is to include the fuel needed to operate the power station, restart trade, rehabilitate and operate hospitals, health centres and bakeries in all parts of the Gaza Strip, and operate equipment needed to remove rubble. This shall continue throughout all stages.

Exchange of captives and prisoners between the two sides:

During the first phase, Hamas shall release 33 Israeli captives (alive or dead), including women (civilians and soldiers), children (under the age of 19 who are not soldiers), those over the age of 50, and the sick, in exchange for a number of prisoners in Israeli prisons and detention centres, according to the following [criteria]:

Hamas shall release all living Israeli captives, including civilian women and children (under the age of 19 who are not soldiers). In return, Israel shall release 30 children and women for every Israeli detainee released, based on lists provided by Hamas, in order of detention.

Hamas shall release all living Israeli captives (over the age of 50), the sick, and wounded civilians. In return, Israel shall release 30 elderly (over 50) and sick prisoners for every Israeli captive, based on lists provided by Hamas, in order of detention.

Hamas shall release all living Israeli female soldiers. In return, Israel shall release 50 prisoners (30 serving life sentences, 20 sentenced) for every Israeli female soldier, based on lists provided by Hamas.
Scheduling the exchange of captives and prisoners between the parties in the first stage:

Hamas shall release three Israeli detainees on the third day of the agreement, after which Hamas shall release three other detainees every seven days, starting with women as much as possible (civilians and female soldiers). In the sixth week, Hamas shall release all remaining civilian detainees included in this phase. In return, Israel shall release the agreed-upon number of Palestinian prisoners, according to lists Hamas will provide.

Hamas will provide information about the Israeli detainees who will be released at this stage by the seventh day (if possible).

On the 22nd day, the Israeli side shall release all prisoners from the Shalit deal who have been re-arrested.
If there are fewer than 33 living Israeli detainees to be released, a number of bodies from the same categories shall be released to complete this stage. In return, Israel will release all women and children who were arrested from the Gaza Strip after October 7, 2023 – provided this is done in the fifth week of this stage.

The exchange process is linked to the extent of commitment to the agreement, including the cessation of military operations, the withdrawal of Israeli forces, the return of displaced persons, as well as the entry of humanitarian aid.
All necessary legal procedures to ensure that freed Palestinian prisoners are not re-arrested on the same charges are to be completed.

The steps of the first stage above do not constitute a basis for negotiating the second stage. Punitive measures and penalties that were taken against prisoners and detainees in Israeli prisons and detention camps after October 7, 2023, are to be lifted and their conditions improved, including individuals who were arrested after this date.

No later than the 16th day of the first phase, indirect talks will begin between the parties to agree on the details of the second phase of this agreement, with regard to the exchange of prisoners and captives from both parties (soldiers and remaining men), provided that they are completed and agreed upon before the end of the fifth week of this stage.

The United Nations and its agencies, including UNRWA, and other international organisations, are to continue providing humanitarian services across the Gaza Strip. This shall continue throughout all stages of the agreement.

Infrastructure (electricity, water, sewage, communications and roads) across the Gaza Strip shall be rehabilitated, and the equipment needed for civil defence allowed into Gaza to clear rubble and debris. This shall continue throughout all stages of the agreement.

All necessary supplies and equipment to shelter displaced people who lost their homes during the war (a minimum of 60,000 temporary homes – caravans – and 200,000 tents) shall be allowed into Gaza.

Throughout this phase, an agreed-upon number (not fewer than 50) of wounded military personnel will be allowed to travel through the Rafah crossing to receive medical treatment, and an increased number of travellers, sick and wounded, shall be allowed to leave through the Rafah crossing as restrictions on travellers are lifted. The movement of goods and trade will return without restrictions.

The necessary arrangements and plans shall be put in place for the reconstruction of homes, civilian facilities, and civilian infrastructure that was destroyed due to the war, as well as arrangements to compensate those affected, under the supervision of a number of countries and organisations, including: Egypt, Qatar, and the United Nations.

All measures in this stage, including the temporary cessation of military operations, relief and shelter, withdrawal of forces, etc., shall continue in the second stage until a sustainable calm (cessation of military and hostile operations) is declared.

[b]The second stage (42 days):[/b]
A return to sustainable calm (a permanent cessation of military and hostile operations) must be announced and take effect before the exchange of captives and prisoners – all remaining living Israeli men (civilians and soldiers) in exchange for an agreed-upon number of prisoners and detainees in Israeli prisons and detention camps.

Israeli forces shall withdraw completely from the Gaza Strip.

[b]The third stage (42 days):[/b]
An exchange of the bodies and remains of the dead on both sides after they have been retrieved and identified.

The reconstruction plan for the Gaza Strip over a period of three to five years – including homes, civilian facilities, and infrastructure – and compensating all those affected begins, under the supervision of several countries and organisations, including: Egypt, Qatar and the United Nations.

A complete end to the siege of the Gaza Strip.

Guarantors of the agreement:

Qatar, Egypt, the United States, and the United Nations.

May 5, 2024
jeebling Offline
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It doesn’t include any penalties on Hamas for the terrorist activity that started this conflict. I hope Israel will maintain their resolve in rejecting this unfair proposal.
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I think that is an unacceptable deal for Israel period. Hamas gets everything they want; Israel gets a few living hostages and many dead bodies. I believe Israel has no choice but to continue.
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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/05/14/watch-israel-shares-footage-of-gunmen-in-un-compound-in-rafah/

Hamas working with the UN or the UN working with Hamas...in Israel.

You cannot make this crap up.

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BOOM!

"The incident was yet another example of Hamas’s cynical use of Gaza’s civilians as human shields, according to the IDF.

“The Hamas terrorist organization systematically exploits international institutions and uses the civilian population as human shields in order to perpetrate terrorist attacks against the State of Israel,” said the military."


https://www.jns.org/15-terrorists-killed-in-hamas-command-center-at-unrwa-school/


DIE SCUM DIE!
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Gee Wally, who do you suppose took it all???



Nearly 70% of Gaza aid from US-built pier stolen



No aid was delivered to the UN warehouse from the floating pier on Sunday and Monday.

Close to three-fourths of the humanitarian aid transported from a new $320 million floating pier built by the U.S. military off the Gaza coast was stolen on Saturday en route to a U.N. warehouse, Reuters reported on Tuesday.

Eleven trucks “were cleaned out by Palestinians” on the journey to the World Food Programme warehouse in Deir El Balah in the central Strip, with only five truckloads making it to the destination.

“They’ve not seen trucks for a while,” a U.N. official told Reuters. “They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels.”

According to the United Nations, no aid was delivered to the warehouse from the U.S. military’s pier on Sunday and Monday.

Reuters is reporting that most of the aid coming into Gaza from the U.S. military's pier since Saturday was stolen by Palestinians as it made its journey to the UN's warehouse in nearby Deir El Balah.
* 11 trucks out of 16 trucks were cleaned out on Saturday
* No deliveries on…
— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) May 20, 2024

The United Nations said that 10 truckloads of food aid from the pier arrived at the warehouse on Friday, its first day of operation. It was transported by U.N. contractors.

“We need to make sure that the necessary security and logistical arrangements are in place before we proceed,” said the U.N. official.

According to Israeli estimates, Hamas has been stealing up to 60% of the aid entering the Gaza Strip, and a Channel 12 report last week revealed that the terrorist organization has made at least $500 million in profit off humanitarian aid since the start of the war on Oct. 7.

The pier was pre-assembled at the Israeli port of Ashdod before being anchored to a beach in the coastal enclave on Thursday. No American troops went ashore during the installation of the pier, according to CENTCOM. Some 1,000 U.S. soldiers and sailors helped build the floating pier.

The Israel Defense Ministry’s Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) unit announced on Saturday that “hundreds of pallets of humanitarian aid” and more than 160,000 liters of fuel had entered via the pier.

Vice Admiral Brad Cooper, deputy commander of CENTCOM, said that the goal is for 500 tons of humanitarian aid, or 90 trucks, to pass into Gaza through the pier daily, eventually increasing to 150 trucks a day.

CENTCOM tweeted early Tuesday that over 569 metric tons of humanitarian assistance has been unloaded from the pier so far.

To date, over 569 metric tons of humanitarian assistance has been delivered across the temporary pier to Gaza for further distribution by humanitarian partners. The United States, United Kingdom, UAE, European Union, and many other partners have donated this humanitarian… pic.twitter.com/KbgXwFbfzD
— U.S. Central Command (@CENTCOM) May 21, 2024

USAID and the U.S. Department of Defense are leading the effort, alongside Cyprus, the United Nations and international donors, including the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, Romania and the European Union, CENTCOM said. The aid is transported via sea from Cyprus where it is screened, and the United Nations receives the aid in Gaza and coordinates its distribution

Israel is also helping to facilitate the entry of aid via the pier.

Reuters also reported that “food and medicine for Palestinians in Gaza are piling up in Egypt because the Rafah crossing remains closed.”

Israel took operational control of the crossing weeks ago, but Cairo so far has refused to cooperate with Israeli authorities to facilitate the entry of aid through Rafah. The Israeli government wants to allow aid into Gaza through the crossing but is unable to do so without Egyptian cooperation.

Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz last week placed the responsibility for averting a humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip squarely on the shoulders of Egypt.

Katz said he had spoken with his British and German counterparts “about the need to persuade Egypt to reopen the Rafah Crossing to allow the continued delivery of international humanitarian aid to Gaza.”

While the world places the responsibility for Gaza’s humanitarian situation on Israel, he added, “the key to preventing a humanitarian crisis in Gaza is now in the hands of our Egyptian friends.”

Meanwhile, COGAT on Thursday approved the resumption of commercial trade between Israel the Strip, with truck deliveries starting the following morning, Israel’s Walla! News outlet reported on Sunday.

According to the report, 150 trucks loaded with produce from Israel—not aid—crossed into Gaza intended for merchants who purchased the produce, which is “intended for Hamas members and the civilian population.”

https://www.jns.org/nearly-70-of-gaza-aid-from-us-built-pier-stolen/


https://youtu.be/_8mduTEvnU0?si=GKEl1biodAxeqTf3
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The ICC Disgraces Itself Over Israel
Giving Hamas a brief victory will be the court’s epitaph.


WSJ Editorial Board

The International Criminal Court has lost more than the plot. In requesting arrest warrants on Monday for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his defense chief, alongside a trio of Hamas leaders responsible for Oct. 7, the ICC has lost sight of the crucial distinction between the death squad and the bomber pilot, on which the possibility of just war depends. President Biden is right to call the court’s action “outrageous,” but the grotesque false equivalence demands more than tough words.

On one side are Israel’s democratic leaders, waging a war to reclaim hostages and root out terrorists in Gaza. On the other side is Hamas, which precipitated the war with its mass murder, rape and kidnapping on Oct. 7, and whose officials pledge to do it “again and again.” Lumping them together is a slander for the history books. Imagine some international body prosecuting Tojo and Roosevelt, or Hitler and Churchill, amid World War II.

The defects in the ICC’s allegations against Israel are many. Prosecutor Karim Ahmad Khan alleges “starvation of civilians as a method of warfare.” Hamas lists 31 Gazans whom it claims died of malnutrition and dehydration in seven months of war. That’s out of 2.3 million whom Egypt won’t let out over its border.

Israel has facilitated the entry of 542,570 tons of aid, and 28,255 aid trucks, in an unprecedented effort to supply an enemy’s civilians, even while Hamas steals the aid and tries to frustrate delivery. Israel has begged Egypt for two weeks to let in aid at Rafah, while Egypt refuses. Is this the behavior of an Israeli government bent on starving Gazans?

The ICC claims Israel is “intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population,” another allegation that’s upside-down. “Israel has done more to prevent civilian casualties in war than any military in history,” John Spencer, chair of urban warfare at West Point, has said, “setting a standard that will be both hard and potentially problematic to repeat.” If nations can’t wage just wars, evil prevails, meaning the ICC isn’t giving a win only to Hamas.

While Gaza is a war zone and ICC staff are busy in Ukraine, the prosecutor has had no way to conduct a serious investigation. Mr. Khan had assured U.S. Senators that an inquiry would take months, and it would hear from the Israelis. ICC staff were supposed to land in Israel for preliminary discussions on Monday. Instead, Mr. Khan announced his move on CNN.

The ICC also lacks jurisdiction. Israel, like the U.S., never signed the treaty that created it. To permit prosecutions of Israel, the court twisted its rules to summon a State of Palestine, with borders defined by fiat, which it could call a member state.

The ICC is supposed to intervene as a “court of last resort,” in the absence of national judiciaries able to hold leaders to account. Think of Hamas, whose courts are rubber stamps. Israel has an independent court that is renowned for its activist, antigovernment tilt.

The ICC’s disregard for procedure exposes its bias, and if the warrant request is an effort to undermine Mr. Netanyahu’s government, it won’t work. The opposition leader has already rallied to condemn the ICC’s “complete moral failure.”

Mr. Biden denounced the ICC’s move Monday, but will he back it up? In 2021 he rescinded President Trump’s executive order threatening sanctions against anyone involved in ICC actions against an American, Israeli or other nonconsenting ally. Congress has long authorized a President “to use all means necessary and appropriate” to resist such ICC actions.

The ICC’s budget, coming largely from Japan, Germany, France, the U.K., Italy and South Korea, should be in jeopardy. How can these countries host or train with U.S. troops while funding a body that threatens to prosecute them without jurisdiction?

Mr. Khan was warned of the consequences of subordinating the law in pursuit of Israel. The judges who will consider his arrest warrants are being asked to sign the ICC’s epitaph.
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Prosecuting Netanyahu Has Risks for International Criminal Court
U.S. support for ICC, which grew with Ukraine investigation, is collapsing after prosecutor targets Israeli leaders


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The International Criminal Court in The Hague, Netherlands. PHOTO: PIROSCHKA VAN DE WOUW/REUTERS
WASHINGTON—For more than 25 years, the U.S. relationship with the International Criminal Court has veered between idealistic support to outright hostility, with an arm’s length distance being the norm.

Now, with ICC prosecutor Karim Khan announcing he will seek charges against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for the Gaza war a year after obtaining an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over Ukraine allegations, the ICC has asserted the independence its framers imagined—at the likely cost of practical support and diplomatic legitimacy that only superpower backing can bring.

Just weeks ago, the ICC, which for years had been shunned by Republicans and viewed skeptically by many Democrats, was seen in Washington as part of the international effort to hold Moscow to account over its invasion of Ukraine. Sens. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) and Chris Coons (D., Del.) worked together to secure U.S. funding for the ICC, something that would have been unthinkable as recently as 2020, when the Trump administration imposed sanctions on the ICC’s then prosecutor for reviewing war-crimes allegations against U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

On Monday, Graham and Coons joined President Biden in condemning Khan’s move against Netanyahu and his defense chief, Yoav Gallant, who the prosecutor alleges committed war crimes and crimes against humanity by using starvation as a tactic against civilians in Gaza. The charges don’t include genocide, although South Africa has made that allegation against Israel in a separate proceeding before a United Nations tribunal, the International Court of Justice.

Khan’s office declined to take questions or make the prosecutor available for an interview.

Israel says it has complied with the laws of war, and that it seeks to keep civilian casualties at a minimum while pursuing legitimate military objectives.

Both senators said that Khan had disregarded the ICC’s statutory obligation to act only when a nation can’t or won’t hold high ranking officials accountable, something they said Israel’s legal system had proven capable of doing.

“Prosecutor Khan is drunk with self-importance and has done a lot of damage to the peace process and to the ability to find a way forward,” Graham said on X.

Coons, who has been critical of some Israeli operations in Gaza, said “the ICC is meant to be a court of last resort only” and had stepped beyond that in targeting the Israeli leaders. “I have long supported the ICC, including in its investigation of Russian war crimes in Ukraine, and I hope to continue working with it if it returns to its legitimate role,” he said.

Matthew Waxman, a Columbia University law professor and national-security official in the George W. Bush administration, said the odds of the U.S. eventually joining the ICC have “gone from very low to zero.”

Karim Khan, prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. PHOTO: PETER DEJONG/ASSOCIATED PRESS
Waxman said Khan’s charges “ignore the nature of this war and the challenges of defeating an armed force that has been embedded in densely populated areas.” Israel, he said, probably could do more to facilitate humanitarian aid to Gaza, but that wasn’t a legal obligation that could give rise to the extraordinary allegations of crimes against humanity that the ICC prosecutor announced.

Under ICC procedures, Khan must obtain approval from a three-judge panel to issue arrest warrants, which he also is seeking for Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar, Ismail Haniyeh and Mohammed Deif for atrocities in the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel. That panel could act within weeks, and observers expect it to decide on the warrants before the court’s recess in August.

Most U.S. officials had little to say regarding the charges against leaders of Hamas, which the U.S. and European Union designate as a terrorist group. “Whatever this prosecutor might imply, there is no equivalence—none—between Israel and Hamas,” Biden said.

Sen. Bernie Sanders disagreed. “The ICC prosecutor is right to take these actions” against figures such as Putin, Sinwar and Netanyahu, the Vermont independent said. “These arrest warrants may or may not be carried out, but it is imperative that the global community uphold international law.”

President Biden said, “there is no equivalence—none—between Israel and Hamas.” PHOTO: SAMUEL CORUM/PRESS POOL
David Scheffer, who represented the U.S. at the 1998 conference in Rome that gave birth to the ICC, said that Khan had no choice but to pursue the case against Netanyahu.

“For the ICC there may be a risk, but at the end of the day what is the ICC supposed to do?” he said. “Israel here has a rightful exercise of self-defense, a just war,” Scheffer said. “The issue is how do you conduct that just war. Prosecutor Khan is being presented with a scale of atrocity in warfare that is somewhat unprecedented for the ICC prosecutor to be confronted with.”

More than 120 nations belong to the ICC—and provide its roughly $200 million budget—and many of them want to see action against Israeli leaders. Scheffer said: “There is an entire world here beyond the U.S.”

Mary Ellen O’Connell, a professor of international-law at the University of Notre Dame, said that Khan’s move both damaged the ICC’s prospects with the U.S. and set back the odds of ending the conflict more quickly, all with almost no chance of actually putting Netanyahu or the Hamas leaders in the dock.

“I fear the indictment will cause the leaders on both sides to dig in and continue fighting,” because even a peace treaty can’t force the ICC to withdraw its arrest warrants, O’Connell said.

She said that Khan might have a distorted view of his office’s power.

“I see the prosecutor as being within this world of very enthusiastic supporters of the International Criminal Court who want to take action against obvious individuals,” she said. “If you indict Putin, you indict Bashir, how can you not indict Netanyahu and the Hamas leaders?” she said. Omar al-Bashir, the former president of Sudan, remains at large more than a decade after the ICC issued arrest warrants on allegations including genocide.

The ICC emerged from a 1998 conference in Rome backed by the U.S. as an effort to create a permanent court to succeed the United Nations tribunals that prosecuted war crimes in the Yugoslavia and Rwanda conflicts. But the Rome Statute treaty gave the court too much independence for countries seeing frequent military operations to stomach; the U.S. and Russia, along with Israel and China, India and Pakistan, all withheld ratification from a treaty giving a panel of judges in The Hague authority to second guess decisions of their own armed forces.

Still, the court came into existence in 2002, after the Rome Statute was ratified by the necessary 60 countries.

Over the intervening years, U.S. policy toward the ICC depended less on any administration’s conceptual support for international law than political and diplomatic needs of the moment, said Todd Buchwald, a former U.S. ambassador for global criminal justice who worked under both Democratic and Republican presidents.

The George W. Bush administration first treated the ICC as a threat, approving legislation some called The Hague Invasion Act for authorizing military force to free any Americans who might be held prisoner by the court. But the court’s first two prosecutors focused their attention on regional conflicts in Uganda, Congo and other places where atrocities had few implications for the broader world order.

By the second Bush term, the State Department had come to see the ICC as a useful tool to seek accountability for war crimes in Darfur in western Sudan, a crisis Bush took a personal interest in, Buchwald said.
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#74 Posted:
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A REAL president would've nipped this in the bud BEFORE it happened. Now? President Depends isn't going to do a thing but have Nespresso with Clooney and laugh!
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#75 Posted:
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Obama directed US funds to a group in Israel trying to oust Netanyahu (election interference anyone?). Why would anyone expect anything different now?
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That Bassard..!! Mad
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Obama should have been impeached for his pen and a phone crimes. 😡
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