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Just Another Crooked Democrat
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Charlie Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Oct 6 2002, 6:35 AM EST
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Why are most of the crooks Democrats, and why do so many people look the other way and excuse them! Is bad behavior expected and forgiven so easily?

Charlie
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CJBully Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 5:24 AM EST
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why is the horse wearing a suit and carrying a garbage can?

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bassithound Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 6:34 AM EST
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I tend to vote Dem., but I was so looking forward to him getting trounced next Tuesday.
xibbumbero Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 7:12 AM EST
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Most crooks that get the notoriety are Dem's ,as most of the media is owned by Rep's. X
jjohnson28 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 8:48 AM EST
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X,Thats Funny! What is with the democrats and election laws anyways these days and why do they always seem to want to rewrite them as they go along?
Charlie Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 8:59 AM EST
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Reps seem to follow the law and Democrats, seem to look for the loophole and the opportunity to bend or change the law! If I needed a criminal defense lawyer, I would most likely pick a Democrat!

Charlie
xibbumbero Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 3:35 PM EST
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In the words of Huey Long: There are two parties in congress,the Low Papa Hirams and the High Papa Lowrams. The difference between the two is,one skins the bark off a tree from the bottom up and the other skins the bark from top down. X
JonR Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 3:50 PM EST
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Honest/Politician- does the word "oxymoron" mean anything to you. LOL JonR
cwilhelmi Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Oct 8 2002, 5:58 AM EST
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When you think of Enron, Qwest, Worldnet, and Adelphia do you think Republican or Democrat?? I doubt you think Dem considering all of these companies gave 90% of their contributions to the Republicans, and the 10% was just hedging their bets! And all of them are facing legal implications for fraud and other illegal acts. Smell what you're shoveling, it stinks...
Charlie Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Oct 8 2002, 7:03 AM EST
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Yes, and you are full of it! Do you honestly think that those companies, just sprung up from the ground in the GWB Administration, no, they were exposed during this adminstration, which is much more than your honorable pickpocket, Billy Boy Clinton would have done. Janet Reno would not have even looked at any of them! Yes, both sides have their share of crooks, but Democrats seem to have a few more! The list is long! Global Crossing happened to be a Democrat stronghold, Terry McAuliff (spelling) made mega millions dumping his shares of Global Crossing stock! Enron contributed both ways and owned California Governor Gray Davis-D!

Charlie
RobertParrott Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Oct 8 2002, 1:57 PM EST
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CJBully,

It's not a horse, it is a jackass. A fitting symbol of the DemocRATS.
cwilhelmi Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Oct 8 2002, 4:40 PM EST
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Charlie -

I wasn't trying to say that all crooks are republicans either, just humored by all of the fingerpointing and name calling while turning a blind eye to the biggest debacles as of late. And I wasn't saying that democrats are foolproof either, I think their just as worthless as republicans.

I could give a $hit whoose administration the problems started in or whoose cleaned them up, the principles were still the same people regardless of the Presidential party, and their still dirty. If Enron wouldn't have gone bankrupt no one would have been the wiser, but give GWB all the credit you want for "uncovering" the details.

Crooks are crooks regardless of their party affiliation, but most crooks don't vote either.

Re-read your and JJs first post in an Andy Rooney voice, I almost fell over.LOL
Charlie Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Oct 9 2002, 5:25 AM EST
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Even if I reread it in a George Will voice (he is more to my liking than Andy Rooney) it is hilarious as well! Sometimes we get a little carried away in our gusto.

As far as crooks, I agree, dump them and jail them, no matter their affilitation! We in California are stuck with one of the biggest crooks (Governor Gray Davis)around and what do we do? We select a guy to run against him (Bill Simon) who has a background that looks pretty poor when it comes to financial responsiblity!

I do tire of the acusations against GWB every time a fat cat gets his tail caught in the door while running with his Golden Parachute! It seems that Bush is at least going after these Corporate Criminals while others have not!

Read this in a George Will accent or Andy Rooney depending on your political leanings!

Charlie
cwilhelmi Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Oct 9 2002, 11:23 AM EST
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I think this is our first political agreements!!! I wonder if it will be the last?? ;)

I don't know why I thought of Rooney, but his whiney voice just popped in my head and I started rolling (no reference to you and JJ being whiney, just a testament to how weird my mind is!!)
Charlie Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Oct 9 2002, 11:30 AM EST
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Watching Fox today and they had Congressmen Rangall(D) and Congressman Duke Cunningham (R) on discussing "if we have to go to War with Iraq"! Both are veterans and before you knew it Rangall in all of his splendor had the entire war issue bumped into a "racial" thing! He was whinning away and Cunningham was sort of chuckling at him! Funny!

Keep to the subject at hand, Charles R, and quit deflecting to a race issue! This doesn't have a lot to do with Crooked politicians, except that Rangall was one of the Clinton's biggest backers! Speaking of folks that will have to screwed into the ground when they die, they are so crooked!

Charlie
Danny Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 5:27 AM EST
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let's see
Richard Nixon-resigned
Spiro Agnew-resigned
U.S. Grant-incredibly corrupt administgration
Rutherford B. Hayes-known as rutherfraud
McKinley-controlled by Getty, Morgan & Rockefeller
Packwood-resigned
George W. Bush-His skeletons are well known if not talked about
Cheney-see above
Edwin Meese, Attorney General-convicted felon
Number of Reagan Administration Officials convicted of crimes while in office - 30

generalizations are generally very bad. no party is all bad...no party is all good. generalizations such as yours smack of fanaticism

tailgater Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 5:10 PM EST
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Generally speaking, generalities are genuinely disingenious.
rookie139 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 11:53 PM EST
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Danny, here then is the list of former Democratic members of Congress who were convicted or pleaded guilty to major offenses between 1992 and 1999:

Nick Mavroules, Massachusetts Democrat: tax evasion, accepting illegal gratuity (1992).

Albert Bustamante, Texas Democrat: racketeering (1993).

Carroll Hubbard, Kentucky Democrat: fraud and corruption (1994).

Carl Perkins, Kentucky Democrat: fraud (1994).

Charlie Rose, North Carolina Democrat: financial-disclosure irregularities (1994).

Larry Smith, Florida Democrat: tax evasion (1994).

Walter Fauntroy, District of Columbia Democrat: financial-disclosure misdemeanor (1995).

Gerald Kleczka, Wisconsin Democrat: arrested for DWI (1995 and 1990); convicted DWI (1987).

Mel Reynolds, Illinois Democrat: sexual misconduct (1995).

Walter Tucker, California Democrat: extortion (1995).

Charles Wilson, Texas Democrat: paid $90,000 fine to Federal Election Commission (1995).

Joe Kolter, Pennsylvania Democrat: fraud and conspiracy (1996).

Dan Rostenkowski, Illinois Democrat: mail fraud (1996).

Mary Rose Oakar, Ohio Democrat: financial-disclosure irregularities (1998).

Austin J. Murphy, Pennsylvania Democrat: vote fraud (1999).

Any questions? ;)

Keith
rookie139 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 12:07 AM EST
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Here's some shining examples of the Clinton Administration Legacy:

--The only president ever impeached strictly on grounds of personal malfeasance

--Most convictions and guilty pleas

--Most Cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

--Most witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

--Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47

Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33

Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61

Number of congressional witnesses who have pled the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122 (9/99)

Estimated number of witnesses quoted in FBI files misappropriated by the White House: 18,000

Number of witnesses who developed medical problems at critical points in Clinton scandals investigation (Tucker, Hale, both McDougals, Lindsey): 5

Problem areas listed in a memo by Clinton's own lawyer in preparation for the president's defense: 40

Number of witnesses and critics of Clinton subjected to IRS audit: 45

Number of names placed in a White House secret database without the knowledge of those named: c. 200,000

Number of women involved with Clinton who claim to have been physically threatened: 5 (Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Elizabeth Ward Gracen)
Number of men involved in the Clinton scandals who have been beaten up or claimed to have been intimidated: 9

Number of times Hillary Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in a statement to a House investigating committee: 50 (amazingly enough, she, along with her crook husband are getting paid millions for their memoirs ;)

Number of times Bill Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in the released portions of the his testimony on Paula Jones: 271

Number of times John Huang took the Fifth Amendment in answer to questions during a Judicial Watch deposition: 1,000

Visits made to the White House by investigation subjects Johnny Chung, James Riady, John Huang, and Charlie Trie. 160

Number of campaign contributors who got overnights at the White House in the two years before the 1996 election: 577


Makes me wonder..BTW, Yes, I did copy and paste this info...I'm sure you can find similar info about Republicans...So called "skeletons" aren't the same as convictions
rookie139 Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 12:10 AM EST
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My favorite, and it's ALL true!

Another example of sleazy democrats in action.
Jesse Jackson has added former Chicago Democratic congressman Mel Reynolds to the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition's payroll.

Reynolds was among the 176 criminals excused in President Clinton's last-minute forgiveness spree.

Reynolds received a commutation of his six-and- a-half-year federal sentence for 15 convictions of wire fraud, bank fraud & lies to the Federal Election Commission.

He is more notorious however, for concurrently serving five years for sleeping with an UNDERAGE campaign volunteer.

This is a first in American politics:
An ex-congressman (a democrat) who had sex with a subordinate won clemency from a president (a democrat) who had sex with a subordinate, then was hired by a clergyman (a democrat) who had sex with a subordinate.

His new job? Youth counselor. Is this a great country or what?

Danny Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 3:40 AM EST
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my whole point of the post was to address the point attempting to be made that the Democratic party is the party of crimininal activity, and the Republican party is the party for honest citizens. That's a load of crap. Honesty and dishonesty abound within both parties
PMoreno349 Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 6:36 AM EST
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democrats are just thinking out-of-the-box when it comes to defining social and legal boundries.
tailgater Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Oct 13 2002, 6:44 PM EST
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Actually, Clinton was thinking OF the box...
jjohnson28 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Oct 13 2002, 11:19 PM EST
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Oh Danny,PM face it when it comes to sleaze the Democrites are the creme de la creme.Name one time the rebublicans have tried to substitute a second candidate and re-write election laws,just because they knew the current POS was going to lose.

Just think...Nobody does it better...makes you feel sad for the rest(of us)...Nobody does it quite the way they do? Baby their the BEST!!!

JJ
Charlie Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 6:48 AM EST
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We forgot our latest Democrat Hero, Congressman Traficamp (spelled about as badly as his wig looks) that was just convicted of accepting bribes, etc!

And here in California we have the biggest Crook of all, Gov Grey "Grease my Palm" Davis, (D)! He has the audacity to run TV ad's accusing his opponent, another Corporate Crook, of being crooked! Fact is, they both are crooks, and only California can have a choice of which crook we want to represent us!

Charlie
xibbumbero Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 7:51 AM EST
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I have but one thing to say,NIXON-AGNEW. Ya see,If you believe that all Dems are crooks and most Reps are honest, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like ta sell ya. X
Charlie Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 9:11 AM EST
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Clinton-Gore, and I do not want to buy your bridge!

Charlie
jjohnson28 Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 10:39 AM EST
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The KENNEDY's BWAHAhahahahahahaha
Charlie Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 11:46 AM EST
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Yes, but their Administration when compared to the Clinton years was a group of choirboys!

Charlie
xibbumbero Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 12:00 PM EST
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Ya'll have yet to mention NIXON-AGNEW,and their boys club. X
xibbumbero Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 12:23 PM EST
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Oh ya,don't forget Reagan-Bush and their Voodoo economics. The national debt at the begining of their administration was around $750 billion. At the end it was 2 trillion! X
jjohnson28 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 1:43 PM EST
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Try to stay on topic X we are talking dirty elections and sleaze factor here and when you talk about sleaze you can't help but think Democraps!
xibbumbero Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 2:03 PM EST
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Oh ya,I forgot about the Ripuallwecan's. X
tailgater Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 6:08 PM EST
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I know you are, but what am I?
Why don't you guys cut the crap? For crying out loud, you all have been so busy pointing fingers that you didn't recognize Jimbo's Carly Simon/Spy who Loved Me song.
Good One!
xibbumbero Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Oct 14 2002, 7:05 PM EST
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Oh ya..I'm made otta rubber,you're made otta glue..farts bounce offa me and stick to you,LOL. X
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