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Just gotta love that George Bush
jjohnson28 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
Posts: 7,914
Now I'll believe it when I finally see it but we definitely could use these extra freeways.

http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=9674§ion=NEWS&year=2002&month=11&day=1


Traffic plan moved up
Proposal to put highway through Santa Ana Mountains gets boost.
By DAN NOWICKI
The Orange County Register


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• Federal support puts plan in fast lane



WASHINGTON – The Bush administration on Thursday backed a plan that includes a proposal to tunnel a highway through the Santa Ana Mountains from Riverside to south Orange County.

President George W. Bush in September issued an executive order streamlining the environmental review process, and on Thursday his administration named the Riverside plan and six others as ones that could move forward.

Transportation Department officials said it was the first time a president has intervened this way in local transportation projects.

The order is designed to ensure that federal agencies work in harmony.

The tunnel alternative – one of several proposals to ease congestion on the traffic-jammed Riverside (91) Freeway – would need approval from multiple federal agencies because it could cut through the Cleveland National Forest.

Portions of the plan are opposed by environmentalists, and some south-county residents fear the additional traffic.

Federal officials praise the plan's balance of land use, transportation needs and environmental issues such as habitat conservation, citing it as a model of integrated planning.

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta insisted that environmental standards wouldn't be sacrificed, but local environmentalists have misgivings.

"President Bush has been (loosening standards) all over the country," said Ray Chandos, of Trabuco Canyon-based Rural Canyons Conservation Fund. "But now it looks like his anti-environment policies are hitting much closer to home,"



PMoreno349 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-05-2002
Posts: 665
With a post involving George Bush and traffic, my eyes were seeing "love", but my mind was registering "shove"
sherpamills Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-26-2001
Posts: 147
I for one would not like to be under ground when the 8 point earth quake hits. how about you?
SteveS Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
Earthquakes, like most of the forces of nature, are unpredictable to say the least ... depending on circumstances, a tunnel cut into rock and dense earth might turn out to be a good spot in a high-magnitude quake ... the LAST place you'd want to be is in an area created by a landfill, which at first blush might seem safe because of it's relatively flat topography ... problem is, such ground has a tendency to liquify in an earthquake and structures often collapse or even sink into the ground (vis-avis some of the homes in SFs Marina Green area in that '89 quake). Given a choice between the two, the tunnel might be a safer bet, particularly with modern technological strictures.
GetYourOwn Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2002
Posts: 734
Screw the environmentalists. We don't need no stinkin trees. We don't need no stinkin animals.
5augie5 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-02-1999
Posts: 165
How ironic that a sprawling urban area of about 8MM people creating millions of tons of waste and smog that you could cut a knife through is worried about an area a few miles from their mess.
usahog Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
HEY JJ, the MAN GW is comming into my town Tommorow!!!
me and the Mrs. are heading down there to try and give our support in the Am.. going to wear my KC's shirt and fill the Pocket with some nice Cigars... maybe I'll get to shake the Mans Hand!!!

Hog
jjohnson28 Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
Posts: 7,914
Thats great Hog have fun!
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