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BMW Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 6:26 PM EST
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I went to a Birthday party today for a friend at a big place that has resteraunt, pool room and arcade room with a bar and TVs. After a huge dinner I thought it best to ask if cigars were allowed before I lit a precious smoke. Ten minutes later the waiter comes back and says, "I'm sorry sir, but no cigars." Cigarettes everywhere, teenagers smoking cigarettes, ashtrays overflowing with cigarette butts, and NO cigars. Kind of like being thrown out of a beer joint because you ask for a glass of wine.
I said my Happy Birhtdays and took the long way home so I could enjoy my smoke.

Barry
eze Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 6:40 PM EST
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Aaahhhh...I Know that routine all too well. Stuck in a bar with juvenille delinquents smoking Kools and $5 whores ripping through clove cigarettes while you're asked to step outside to indulge. I just wish them all lung cancer and politely step outside.
hegemonic Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 7:03 PM EST
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I feel your pain... in my chest caused by the agita when that happens to me. I just throw a brick through the storefront and feel better about it.
rayder1 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 7:20 PM EST
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Phuggemmall
RknRmnd Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 7:25 PM EST
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Phagehtaboutit... They will get theirs! "Double Standards!"
SteveS Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 7:26 PM EST
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Last weekend we visited some friends who live a couple of hours north from the Bay Area in order to join them for her birthday ... at her request, we went to a somewhat nearby indian-run casino (which is now legal in CA) ... frankly, this casino was a real dump IMO, but I didn't say anything ... observing that people were smoking throughout the building, I showed a cigar to one of the casino employees and asked if there were a place where I could go to smoke it and get a drink at the same time ... she directed me to a small lounge area where there was a big screen tv and only a few people sitting ... I asked one of the service people in the area for a drink and learned they sell no alchohol, but could brink me a soft drink ... she also volunteered to bring an ashtray for the cigar she could see I was about to light ... for 20 minutes, I sat sipping my diet coke and puffing my cigar while watching an NBA game on the big-screen before a uniformed casino security guard came up and informed me there were no cigars allowed ... cigarettes OK, but not cigars or pipes ... I told him of the people who'd known what I was doing and had indicated approval and he demanded to know their identity so he could "take care of THAT little problem" ... I lied and told him I couldn[t possibly point the people out and complimented him on his swastika shoulder patch as I stood to walk outside and finish the cigar ...
emgjet Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 8:22 PM EST
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Just my two cents guys, but did anyone of you ask how they could allow cigarette smoke, but not allow cigar smoke. Smoke is smoke...what happened to you guys was Unjust discrimination.
SteveS Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 8:42 PM EST
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Ed ... I DID ask ... answer I got was just plain stupid, too ... "well, we allow cigarette smoking in all areas except the "(Some Name) Room, but we don't allow cigars or pipes" ... "why, what's the difference?" ... "because it's the rules" ...

As I said, it was a crappin' can place anyhow ... I just have another reason to not go back ...
efm Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 8:45 PM EST
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I never get hasseled by anyone for smoking cigars. My solution is simple: I have no friends and absolutely no social life. When I light up a cigar there's never anybody around to object. Try it, it works.
kllrwlf Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 9:34 PM EST
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There are only 4 places that I smoke at:

My backyard
My neighboorhood park (while walking my dogs)
Outside at work
Cigar Lounges

I hate going through the motion and end up pissed off about the "rules" and just enjoy my cigars in peace. :)
dhofer22 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Dec 8 2002, 11:06 PM EST
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HEY BMW,

WAS IT DAVE AND BUSTERS, "CAN I SAY THAT?" I was there the other day for the same reason and i got the same response. IF you like that type of thing go try jillans in houston and katy they even sell some macs and other tasteless smokes.

GIG'EM,

DAN
cliffie3d Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 5:40 AM EST
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A similar story with cigarettes/cigars: My friends and I USED TO frequent a really cool lounge - fireplace, sofas & heavy furniture, dimly lit, good Scotch. One evening we stopped in and the place was packed. It seemed over half the crowd was sucking on cigarettes, creating a pretty good cloud. Well the four of us light our cigars, and I guess the added smoke was just enough to hit the "break point" and the smoke alarm goes off. The manager weaves through table after table of cigarette smokers to get to our table and asks us to put out the cigars. We finish our drinks, leave, and go back a week later to view the sign "No cigars allowed". We haven't been back since.
bud451 Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 5:50 AM EST
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I stopped asking in bars because of that reason. I just light up and deal with the dirty looks. Haven't been asked to stop yet. If smoking is allows, I'm smoking cigars without asking.
bud451 Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 5:51 AM EST
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"allowed"
xibbumbero Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 9:13 AM EST
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I was in Tijuana Mexico the other day and was told the same thing by a stern looking lady at the front desk at a restaurant. Cigarette smokers abounded.
That's why I LOVE Vegas. X
cruiser Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 10:52 AM EST
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Just come back from muenich and in everyone of the Beercellars like Paulaner they smoke the hell out of everthing,they dont even have none smoking section.I gues after a large 2pint beer everybody seems to be content. Amen
5augie5 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 10:56 AM EST
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Speaking of Dave and Busters, during my fantasy football draft, we were located in a remote area of the lounge to have our draft and I lit up a nice 'gar to enjoy. The waitress was doing a good job watering down 12 of us with constant trips to the bar. There were 4 of us smoking stogies and a few cigarette smokers. About an hour into the draft a manager appeared and asked us to put out the gars ( nothing said to the cigarette smokers ). I asked him about the double standard and he very tactfully told me that there are special air filtration systems for cigar and pipe smoke that they did not have installed. He was very nice and I told him that we would let the cigars burn out themselves so I could save it for later. Well, after he left I made sure the cigar went out by itself, but it never did! Of course the manager was busy and never came back and I enjoyed my smoke anyway.

I wonder if he was jacking me about air filtration. Any imput?
tony6771 Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 12:05 PM EST
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last friday i met a friend of mine at a local sports bar. an hour into an industrial press the owner walks up and says that after that one there will be no more cigars. i had been going regularly to this bar for over 8 years so i asked about the 2 ft. fog that all the cigarette smoke causes. no one complains about that but they complain about your cigars. i went around and told all my friends i had met over the years that i wouldn't be back. i told them how i was discriminated against and a few even left with me. there is a cigar lounge about 30 minutes away, thats where i'm headed next.

tony
tarheel4lyf Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 12:20 PM EST
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This is why I like to go to "dives". The small Bar and Grill my wife and I go to has no problem. I sit back and puff away, while drinking and watching good live music.
BMW Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Dec 9 2002, 5:31 PM EST
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Dan,
It was D$B.
Barry
justforfun Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Dec 10 2002, 7:37 AM EST
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These 'double standard' stories are really distressing. Great to be a member of a very select group (minority), isn't it? I agree with X, that's why I love Vegas (I wonder whether they've considered banning cigars -=- I hope not!)
Spiny Norman Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Dec 10 2002, 8:57 AM EST
Joined: 09-04-2002
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Another Dave & Busters story....... About 12 years ago my dad was dying of cancer. It was Thanksgiving and was pretty clear that this was probably the last holiday we would get to spend with him. Dad was in the middle of the chemo treatments and was very self concious of his hair loss. The manager at D & B's insisted he remove his hat to comply with their dress code even after we explained to him about the chemo. Frankly, this place is nothing more then a glorified penny arcade and I will never forgive their callouse attitude towards my old man.
penzt8 Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Dec 10 2002, 10:55 AM EST
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I went to my local Topekas steakhouse (Hampton, VA) last Friday. They are cigar friendly. I called ahead to make sure. I don't know how far their chain extends or the policy from place to place. Both myself and my brother lit up cigars after our meal. The food and service was above average too. A place I will definitely visit again.
CulleyJC52 Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Dec 10 2002, 1:37 PM EST
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Me and alot of friends went to the tract, was at the derby club, for drinks and dinner. There was cigarettes all over the place. We asked if cigar smoking was permitted, they said only if other patrons didn't complain, so we lit up, only three of us out of 15 guys. There was old lady, in 70's at table three tiers up, (at least 25feet away), sitting with two relatives that smoked cigarettes. They complained and asked us not to smoke, because they were concerned about the old ladies lungs, lol, . We oblidged, but, thought they were hipocrites.

Also, belong to club that allows cigars, was two old men and ladies sitting at table, again about 15 to 20 feet away. Old guy can over to my table and asked me to put my cigar out. The table his party was sitting at, was right under, the "smoketeer", air cleaner. I told him, if smoke offended him, then maybe he shouldn't sit at the one place in the bar, where every puff of smoke is going too. He said that was his regular table, I replied, I couldn't accommodate his stupidity.
efm Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Dec 10 2002, 3:24 PM EST
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What the heck is it with cigarette smokers? I mean I was once a Camel junkie and I still cannot figure out how a cigarette smoker can say cigars stink. It's bizarre. It's like eating McDonald's and calling Prime Rib junk food.

See you later, I'm going to logon to Cigarette Aficionado or maybe CigaretteBid and ask somebody there.
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