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mhollowa Offline
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Half-Smoked Cigar Lights Up Churchill Auction
LONDON (Reuters) - A half-smoked cigar that last saw action clamped between the jaws of inspirational British World War II leader Winston Churchill beat all expectations at auction on Thursday.
The butt of the cigar -- a trademark of the soldier, writer and politician who led the wartime coalition government from 1940 to 1945 and who last month was voted top Briton -- went for 2,270 pounds ($3,585) against top expectations of 700 pounds.
It was one of the quirkier items in the sale of memorabilia and literature through the ages at auction house Sotheby's.
Such was Churchill's taste for giant Cuban cigars, of which he consumed up to 10 a day, that he eventually had a class of cigar named after him.
The chewed and half-smoked remnant was alongside the pinstriped boiler suit that Churchill often wore during the war which was knocked down for 29,875 pounds ($47,170) -- in the middle of its expected price range.
But the centerpiece of Churchill's section of the sale -- a revolver and hip flask he had with him during his epic escape from a Boer prisoner-of-war camp in South Africa in 1899 and which were priced at up to 150,000 pounds -- failed to sell.
"Bidding went up to about 85,000 pounds and stopped there," a Sotheby's spokeswoman said. "But otherwise most of the Churchill items went at or above their pre-sale estimates."
The gun and the flask were given to the young Churchill by local mine owner John Howard who hid him for several days after his escape while the hue and cry died down and before sending him on his way to refuge in what is now Mozambique.
In the same auction, a vast archive of letters and first editions of Churchill's books which were expected to fetch up to 200,000 pounds were eventually sold for 275,794 pounds.
xibbumbero Offline
#2 Posted:
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Damm,I just threw away about $10,000 worth of butts. X
Slimboli Offline
#3 Posted:
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... amazing!
SteveS Offline
#4 Posted:
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Hell, if mine were worth even 1/10th of that amount, I'd be in puppy heaven ... I've got enough butts on hand right now to cash in for a months salary and if I quit working, I'd have time to smoke more cigars ... that means I'd be able to generate an increasing revenue stream in retirement ...

This sounds better by the minute ... who was it again that was willing to pay that kinda dough for the butts???
Slimboli Offline
#5 Posted:
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Maybe the buyer is going to extract DNA from the butt and clone another Winston Churchill ...

... he was a great man.
mhollowa Offline
#6 Posted:
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...I think what makes this remnant valuable is not its previous owner but the fact that Churchill's gardener got almost all Winston's left-overs for his pipe.
mhollowa Offline
#7 Posted:
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From Motley Fool...
Taking the last few puffs from a cigar butt you find in the street might seem like a good deal, but actually getting a case of premium cigars for a relatively moderate price is not only more sanitary, it creates more in the way of value.
SteveS Offline
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I know it's a bit off-thread, but I see derelicts on the street every day picking up cigarette butts that they apparently hope to squeeze the last bit of life from ... it's interesting to me that even these poor souls tend to turn up their noses at cigar butts ...

Now, back to the Winston Churchill thread
oh, btw, Slim ... your statement re; Churchills greatness is one I agree with, but one that you'd sure draw a lot of disagreement over if it were to be made in the land of my ancestors (Ireland) ... he and his father both were substantially less well received there.
mhollowa Offline
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...Churchill, aside from his social circumstances, was an extremely practical person. He was a leader. A lot of people don't like to be led, particularly the Irish. he was also a stateman, which is more admired in Europer (sans GB) than America. I remember watching his funeral barge make its way down (up) the Thames through London. Read his history of WWII. Still can't figure when a recorded speech was actually his voice.
SteveS Offline
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Being "led" was not exactly the source of antipathy in Ireland ...
mhollowa Offline
#11 Posted:
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...I guess this thread is no longer cigar related.
SteveS Offline
#12 Posted:
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well, it was only half-cigar related to begin with ... LOL
CulleyJC52 Offline
#13 Posted:
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It's still a thread, does anyone know what he smoked?
CulleyJC52 Offline
#14 Posted:
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FYI
Winston Churchill

Winston Churchill was without doubt the most visible cigar smoker ever. He
smoked approximately 14 or 15 cigars a day, every day of his adult life. One of the
few photographs you'll see of Winston Churchill without a cigar is the famous
scowling photograph where he looks like a giant baby whose toy has just been
taken away. In fact that is what happened. The photographer, wanting a scowl on
his face, had just reached up and pulled the cigar from his mouth. In a book I
have, there is a photograph from the same photo session within. It was taken just
before the scowl picture, in which he has a cigar in his hand and a quite cherubic
smile upon his face.

For those of you wonder, at current prices Winston Churchill smoked approximately
$450 a day worth of cigars. In fact, once, his butler became quite agitated when
he realized that Churchill paid more money for his cigars in one day than he made
in a month. So, if you wonder why Churchill wrote all those books, it was because
he needed the money, because he spent so much on cigars and champagne.
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