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darkmerlinwgp Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Dec 22 2002, 5:15 PM EST
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Why is there such a bad wrap for flavored cigars, I don't mean Black and Milds or Swishers? My sister brought a Jamaican Platinum rum cigar back from, where else, Jamaica. They are great. I haven't seen them much of anywhere but they have a great taste. Better than any other flavored I've come across. They come in Rum and Vanilla. If you get a chance I would say try these.

-For the record. These are not my favorite cigars but they are good. People who enjoy cigars are crazy not to try as many cigars as possible. You might like them. This goes to E-Chick especially when she said something to the effect of; If I want congnac I'll drink some if I want a cigar I want something that tastes like tobacco.
Slimboli Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Dec 22 2002, 5:24 PM EST
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... to each their own.

Personally, flavored cigars are for beginners ... or people who must smoke a cigar, but can't stand the flavor of the 'real' ones.
darkmerlinwgp Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Dec 22 2002, 5:57 PM EST
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How can someone say to each his own and then say they are only for beginners. Kind of an oxymoron. I think that a flavored cigar can be a change of pace. That is why I posted. I regularly smoke Macanudo's, Don Tomas, CAO's, La Fontana's and others. I still leave myself open to other cigars. I don't consider anything to be "Real" cigars, especially when people describe the "Flavor" of a cigar by contrasting it with common tastes like nuts or say that it smells a certain way. It's kind of interesting that I've heard rave reviews of what I recall to be punch cigars that were stored in casks that were previously cognac flasks. They obviously took on some flavor from there. Is that not then a flavored cigar? Also when someone is smoking a maduro isn't that a flavored cigar as it is specifically made to taste a certain way. At what point does a cigar become "Flavored" or is it only when someone adds a foreign flavor. Because where tobacco is grown, as in proximaty to certain plants, cause it to pick up certain flavors. This is much the same as wine that will often pick up lavender flavors from wild lavender. To an end. I was saying in my original post...to each his own, and cigar lovers shouldn't descriminate whether a person like's vanilla or maduro we should all just light up together.
efm Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Dec 22 2002, 8:14 PM EST
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You make a good point Dark. Nothing gets such a bad rap as cigars with no flavor so why knock flavored cigars. Sometimes I wonder if there's not more flavors added to cigars than we think. I hear some people like Acids which I think are flavored cigars but what about something like the Indian Tabac Legend Gorilla? It's not advertised as a flavored cigar but they smell like apples. It's pleasant but I wonder does that apple aroma come from the tobacco or is it purposefully added somehow?
SteveS Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Dec 22 2002, 11:07 PM EST
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Added somehow ... that's pretty much the size of it ...

As for a "bad rap" ... well, I guess I'm as guilty as anyone for "rappin" flavored cigars, but not the person who chooses to smoke one ... I should have developed a cut n' paste template for what I'm about to say, but the bottom line fact is, we each have different taste ... if you like flavored cigars, fine with me ... I don't care and won't bad-mouth you for your taste ... I WILL ask that you stand down-wind from me while you smoke it, though ... their odor really does make me feel ill ... and maybe my palate isn't all that well refined, but other than in a chocolate flavored cigar (ugh!!!), I've never tasted a hint of chocolate in a cigar ... no fruity taste either, unless I mistakenly pick up one of my wife's beverages while smoking ... I can't remember now who said it first here, (I love the line and would give credit where due if I could remember who to give it to) but my kinda cigars all taste like tobacco ...

Oh, and if you like flavored cigars enough to bid ONLY on those, you and I could be like Jack and Mrs Sprat ... that's cool .... you can have all the flavoreds you want and will never see a competing bid from me ... I'll take the big, bold tobacco flavored cigar and between the two of us, we'll clean up the platter ...
tarheel4lyf Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Dec 22 2002, 11:46 PM EST
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When I first got started smoking cigars, way back, this past Summer, the lady at the cigar shop started me with a couple of vanilla and a couple of peach flavored cigars. To be honest, I really liked them. Then I started to move up a bit and try some "regular" cigars. After weening myself off of the flavored ones, I stepped up to more stronger cigars. Now, after a few short months, I couldn't see myself going back to the flavored cigars. They don't taste or smell right, to me.
jreddoch Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 2:39 AM EST
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What it all boils down to is "smoke what you like". Why should you gives a good goddamn what anyone else thinks about your choices? I smoke the cigars I do because I enjoy them. I'm not interested in comparing labels.
bud451 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 3:52 AM EST
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I'm a simple guy.

No "flavorings" in my coffee, beer or tobacco.

They are the flavor I enjoy.
plabonte Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 5:14 AM EST
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I do like Acids. And use to smoke other flavored cigars but don't now just because my tastes have changed.

I think one reason flavored cigars usually get a bad wrap is because they are not made with the high standards that a lot of other cigars are made with. But if you like them go for it.
mhollowa Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 5:27 AM EST
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In college I smoked 25-cents a pack Mexican cigarettes rolled in sugar cane papers. They were sweet, strong and cheap. Sure cut down on the number of cigarettes I smoked. After the kids were born I went through a whole bouquet of pipe tobaccos, which cover a far wider spectrum of tastes than flavored cigars. Hard to cover up that "kid" smell.
Tobasco Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 6:00 AM EST
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I started smoking "Royal Hawaiians". Dont smoke flavoreds any more, but I dont knock anyone for what they smoke. Now like mentioned earlier, I may not want to be downwind of some of those smokes. I do think cigar smokers are a positive thing, no matter what is smoked. As long as they are a smoker, at least its one less person to infringe on other smokers rights.

Mag
justforfun Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 6:09 AM EST
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In my humble opinion, flavored cigars are AWEFUL!! I've never tried one I enjoyed. Of course, I like my scotch, brandy, and cognac without additives and this may be the reason I prefer cigars this way. I just can't get past the sweet taste (and wow, they are really sweet) ---- much like mixed alcoholic beverages, it appears to be an effort to disguise the true taste of the primary component (the tobacco). For my money, I'll stick with the real deal, and if you prefer these, then enjoy. After all, it's all about personal preference.
Skatty2hotty Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 6:40 AM EST
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Generally I won't smoke at my favorite bar if it's too crowded. It's not worth the hassle from other people complaining. I will smoke an Acid Kuba Kuba. I get compliments from 9 outta 10 people.
BMW Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 3:05 PM EST
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I had a taste of tobacco flavored beer once. Someone had put a butt out in it, Yuch!

Barry
hegemonic Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 3:23 PM EST
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I'm a man with big enough balls to admit to smoking and enjoying some flavored cigars. I don't care how you define it, flavored is flavored and you can f*ck off if you have a problem with my tastes :)

Not true that it's just for beginners. My palate is more geared toward the full-bodied smokes than the lighter-bodied ones, but flavored cigars are a nice change of pace for me. Variety is the spice of life, (does that mean that variety is flavored!?) so live a little.

BTW I can smoke any of you ninny-pinny-sissy purists under the friggin' table so bring it on!
Slimboli Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 3:57 PM EST
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Heg ... why don't you say what you really feel?

...hehehe!

Charlie Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 4:41 PM EST
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I do not care for flavored cigars (vanilla, peach, amaretto, Jack Daniels, etc) but if you like em, more power to you!! Enjoy!

Charlie
wbslngr Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 5:31 PM EST
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Wow, All flavored Cigar smokers unite. I know longer have to watch my posts and lurk in the shadows to buy my flavored cigars from a guy in a long coat.
tarheel4lyf Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 6:01 PM EST
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I like flavored women.
justforfun Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 6:40 PM EST
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Mellow Out Heg. Must've hit a raw nerve. You can smoke whatever " the f " you want, and you know what we don't give a flying (or any other kind of for that matter) f***. Send me you email, and I'll send you the rest of my Cuban Honey's and may you enjoy them on me.
joemar4 Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 7:24 PM EST
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I too started off smoking flavored cigars. Like many of you who posted before me, my taste changed and I prefer a full bodied, unflavored cigar. I tried a flavored cigar that a friend raved about as if he owned the company and to me it tasted horrible. Was it? to someone who smokes flavored cigars, I'm sure it was great, but after moving away from flavored cigars more than a year ago, it was not for me. Does that mean flavored cigars are bad? No, they are just not for me anymore.

That's the beauty of choice. We have the choice to choose what we like and not like. Just because someone chooses something that you do not like, doesn"t mean they are any less of a cigar smoker than the next guy (gal)

Happy Holidays!!
Joe
tarheel4lyf Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 7:30 PM EST
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"Can't we all just get along?"
efm Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Dec 23 2002, 8:51 PM EST
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Flavored cigars? You betcha, I spread Cheez-Whiz on all my cigars. Makes them kinda gooey but smooooooth.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 12:52 AM EST
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Cheez-Whiz? sounds good with an apéritif before supper.

for supper, i have been dipping my cigars in foxes ubet or bosco if i can't get the foxes. i never use hershey's. cheap chocolate ruins a good cigar.

by the way, what is the difference between supper and diner?
jreddoch Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 2:12 AM EST
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Supper is dinner in the south.
Dinner is lunch " " ".
bud451 Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 2:50 AM EST
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Hey Heg....my balls are not big, I am not a purist and I consider myself no more of a man than you.

Now go smoke a vanilla petite corona with your appletini! LOL! JK of course.

12 and 3! what a season! I'm sure hoping for a crush this weekend.
THL Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 3:50 AM EST
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I for one, normally enjoy being smoked under the table. However, due to scheduling conflicts and the demands of my public, I find it necessary to decline the generous offer tendered by hegemonic.
cigarsmoke Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 4:24 AM EST
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Merry friggin Christmas,
C'mon folks whats the deal with flavored cigar bashin? Some of us like strong, some like bold, some mild,amd some medium. Every time I read a review and it says with a hint of "" whether it be leather, coffee, fruit, wood, liquor, they are all flavored to a degree, and those who smoke the cherry or the vanilla are cigarsmoking brothers and sisters. I even have a friend who loves the Optimos and the sweets. handmade? no-- exotic and longfiller? no--- but he truly enjoys smoking them. I even like and smoke many of the backwood smokes aromatic. my favorite? no but a quick cheap smoke.
I say "smoke em if you have em no matter what flavor they are" and MERRY CHRISTMAS guys and gals ;)


PS should I put my cigars in the humidor with or without the wrappers.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 6:05 AM EST
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with, definitely with, yea, definitely with, 473, yea 473
Charlie Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 8:40 AM EST
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Do they make a sasafrass flavored or honeydew flavored cigar? Those would be really sweet little things to enjoy after a 26 oz Porterhouse........real manly flavors!!!

Others would be blueberry, tangerine, sweet apple and maybe bubblegum!

LMAO at all of the "flavored" cigars! If you like em, smoke em!

Charlie
hegemonic Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 9:14 AM EST
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I knew my post would bring out some good responses! :) LMAO

Happy Holidays Everyone!! :)
rockjr6 Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 9:34 AM EST
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I also like the taste of flavored cigars. I think is a nice change, from the "real" cigars. Slim if you dont like flavored cigars why do u smoke acids.
Slimboli Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 9:42 AM EST
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I don't ... just tried a couple of the lines once. Haven't bought them since, because they weren't suited to my tastes.

...gave most of them away ...
deathray Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 12:31 PM EST
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i have a hunch that the reason we all hate flavored is that they are usually $hitty cigars. Now maybe if you took a GOOD cigar, and added a flavor that complements the tobacco....MAYBE it would be good.
wbslngr Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 5:09 PM EST
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I tried a cojimor (sp) and it seemed well made. I would say I am still a newbie but does anyone have a list of well made flavored cigars?
darkmerlinwgp Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Dec 24 2002, 7:53 PM EST
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I'm glad I could start such a good conversation. I don't join in on the conversations much. I have to say though that I was just tired of people putting down a flavored cigar because it has flavor. I pride myself in pretty much liking everything except extremely stron cigars. So I just wanted people to think about their opinion on the issue a little more. I didn't want people to start using the "F" word about this topic. It is also interesting that someone described a "flavored" cigar as smelling bad and making them feel ill. I've never heard someone say that. Most of the time when someone said a cigar made them feel bad when they smelled it, the cigar was ultra strong. Well the last thing I'm going to add to this topic is for all of the people who have been reading along...Smoke a jamaican platinum rum or vanilla if you like flavored cigars. I have not found their equal.
wbslngr Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2002, 3:50 AM EST
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where can one find that type?
Slimboli Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2002, 4:14 AM EST
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Last night 50 of them suckers closed for $5 ...

... yep, they must be good cigars ... hehehe!
wbslngr Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2002, 4:00 PM EST
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And you didn't get them for me for Christmas. Bah Humbug.
hegemonic Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2002, 4:19 PM EST
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darkmerlinwgp wrote:
"I didn't want people to start using the "F" word about this topic."

LM F'N AO!!!! :) Merry Christmas!
Charlie Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2002, 6:01 AM EST
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Slim, you made my argument with the response about the 50 selling for $5!!!!

I once bought a Maker's Mark flavored cigar complete with the Makers Mark melted wax on the tube....sorry, it was not worth the 9 bucks! I have also tried Orenallas Vanilla flavored cigars (barf) and they were horrible! Does Rum and Honey Crooks count as a flavored cigar, tried em when I was a kid.....heaved all over the place!

Like I said earlier, if you like em smoke em! This has been a very interesting thread! Enjoyed reading the various opinons on the subject! :):):):)

Charlie
darkmerlinwgp Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2002, 10:16 PM EST
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Jamaican Platinum cigars have never been on this website. Cigar bid has never had them before at least and I regularly check for them. I have no Idea where to get them now just search the internet.
E-Chick Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2002, 6:28 PM EST
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Wow, I'm famous! Got a mention from a guy (Dark) that I don't even know...

I feel that "flavored" cigars don't really taste all that different, but leave their "flavor" (in my case it was honey - as in Havana Honey's) on my lips...didn't really much like that even though I do like honey as a food...

I, like most of the rest here, have noticed subtle or even strong "flavors" while smoking cigars...such as licorice, chocolate, pepper, and other things...the smoke goes over my tastebuds, and I taste it. Thus, FLAVOR...viola!

The so-called "flavored" smokes seem only to have a topical flavoring that I did not like while smoking my cigar. Sorta like herfing while chewing peppermint gum?

I would never tell you NOT to smoke them...

As Slimholi said...to each his own...and I must add: to each HER own!...go for it and enjoy...THAT'S what it's all about!!!!
E-Chick Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2002, 6:30 PM EST
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Look! Look!

I didn't even say the F word!

[applause]

[cheers]
hegemonic Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2002, 8:28 PM EST
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ah... go F yourself!! ;)
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