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Flor de Oliva Grand Cameroon
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Tobasco Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 2:35 PM EST
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Flor de Oliva Grand Cameroon Boxed Pressed Churchill:

I revcieved a 5-pack of these. The description is very accurate. If you havent tried one you should. Anyone else try these smokes, and what did you think? I paid only $9.00 for these on auction!!

Description:
The Grand Cameroon is an attractive square-pressed Nicaraguan cigar, and is considered one of the better premium values on the market. Rich, reddish brown Cameroon-seed wrappers and a buttery smooth draw. Hand-rolled in Esteli, Nicaragua.

Mag

joelmitre Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 2:41 PM EST
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Mag, I haven't tried the Cameroon, but I am a huge fan of the Oliva Grand Maduro boxed pressed, it is one of my favorites. I have smoked maybe 50 of them and everyone has been extremely tasty! If you get a chance, try the Maduro, they are very inexpensive too.
CJBully Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 2:48 PM EST
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You'll be hard pressed to find a nicer smoke for the $$. Nice and smooth...
ducati996 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 3:45 PM EST
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Mag,

I won a 5-pack of the robustos. In my opinion, they are a very under-rated cigar. I will buy more.
jcrimmins Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 4:09 PM EST
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I've been singing the praises of the FDO Grand Cameroon and Maduro for years. You won't find a better inexpensive smoke. They are similar to the CAO L'Anniversaire series(also a favorite) at a fraction of the price.
Tobasco Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 4:22 PM EST
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jcrimmins, ya know. I thought it tasted familiar to something Ive smoked in the past. The CAO L'Anniversaire series you mention is a good comparison.

Mag
Charlie Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 5:39 PM EST
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Mag,

Cherish that victory of $9 for those cigars, as I am sure it will not happen again!! They are wonderful smokes and vastly underrated!

Charlie
Tobasco Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jan 5 2003, 6:15 PM EST
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charlie, I think you are correct. Right now I'm at $12 for another 5-pack. At CI they are $15. I wont go higer than $12 on CBid. I bet I get knocked off! Oh well, I'll be out for my deal another day, If I dont win. Patience has always paid off for me.

Mag
wanyburger Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jan 6 2003, 12:59 PM EST
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excellent cigar. One of those little gems you like to keep quiet about :)
cayman2b Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jan 6 2003, 2:22 PM EST
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Very good smoke.. not much hype..

Seem to go up and down on winning bids here..

Just after they are praised HERE!

Just kidding.. spread the good word..

I'll do my part again.. La Rose Especial Maddies !!!
joelmitre Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jan 7 2003, 2:10 PM EST
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Mag, personally, I don't mind paying $3 per stick. I actually buy all of my Grand Maduros at the local shop at $3.50 per, and ya know, I still feel like I'm getting a steal. They really are a great smoke for the buck! Have you all tried the 'O' Maduro yet?? Shiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet those kick some butt!!

Joel
"Go Lakers!"
Charlie Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 6:10 AM EST
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Joel, I like both, but prefer the kick in the ass of the Oliva O Maduro Robustos!!!@ They are great cigars.

Do you live in California? If so, where in the world are you getting those sticks for 3.50 per?

Charlie
Tobasco Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 6:19 AM EST
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joelmitre, I think you are right. They definatly are worth MORE than $3.50 a stick. I got lucky again though, and won at $12.00 for a 5-pack. I'm on CBids once a week delivery, so each extra order after the 1st is only $.50 per 5-pack extra! Thats how to save even more.

Mag
Tobasco Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 6:20 AM EST
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Charlie, those Maduros are good & strong and smooooth!

Mag
Lowman Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 6:43 AM EST
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You guys are gonna suck me into the Oliva "O" maduro hype, just like the Buc Full Sail and Peg Leg. I may start bidding too!!
Lowman Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 6:45 AM EST
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OR... are you guys working w/ C-Bid and just stirring up HYPE on 'gars that they are looking to get RID of ?!?!?! LOL ;^)
joelmitre Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 8:44 AM EST
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Charlie, I'm from So Cal, but am currently stationed up in Dayton, Ohio, and I get mine from The Wharf.
Iron Bar Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 9:28 AM EST
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With the exception of their bundled line of cigars, I think the Oliva family is rolling some of the best sticks on the market these days. The Grand Maduro and Grand Cameroon are two of the most underrated cigars out there IMO. More power to them!
Slimboli Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 10:36 AM EST
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For Decades, The Oliva Family of Tampa, Florida, has been supplying tobacco to many of the world's top makers of premium cigars ... one of the industry's largest tobacco suppliers.

Oliva Tobacco Company provides tobacco to the makers of some of the finest cigar brands in the world--Arturo Fuente, Punch, La Gloria Cubana and El Rey del Mundo .. they all feature Oliva tobacco.

Opus X is made from Cuban-seed Dominican shade wrapper and Cuban-seed Dominican binder and filler grown on the Fuente's land, which is land once owned by the Oliva family. Oliva also grows and sells to the Fuente's the wrapper that is used in the VSG ...

Read the whole story aboout the Oliva Family at:

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/Aficionado/stars/fc597.html

xibbumbero Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 11:32 AM EST
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The only Oliva Grand Cameroons I've smoked,started off XLNT and got bitter at about the half way point. I've had some napping for about a year now,I'll have to have another look. X
Charlie Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 12:11 PM EST
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X, if you don't like em I will trade you a Wolf or two for them!!!! Just joking!!!

Charlie
wanyburger Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 8 2003, 3:18 PM EST
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You know slim, I truly believe that the taste found in the gran cammy is very reminiscent to the opus "x". It has that sweet taste if you know what I mean. By no means are these the same cigar but your point confirmed my thinking. I never knew they supplied Arturo with the tobacco. You know grasshopper, you have come a long way since I have been gone. Very impressive.
jd1 Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2003, 5:53 AM EST
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I agree with letting the gran cammies rest a little while; they then really open up; these are my go to cammies when I want a change unless I have some CAO cammies hiding further down in the 'dor that I break out every oncet in a while.
wouldestous Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2003, 4:26 PM EST
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hard to go wrong with oliva smokes.
ducati996 Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Jan 11 2003, 4:08 PM EST
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Just found my last Flor de Oliva Grand Cameroon robusto and smoked it tonight. The 3 years in my humidor only made it that much smoother. It was fantastic! Only wish it was a torpedo.
osage Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Jan 14 2003, 9:10 AM EST
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Talk about a homerun! Just received my CBid shipment.
5-pack of Flor Oliva Grand Cameroon Belicosos.
5-pack of Flor de Oliva Grand Maduro Perfectos.
5-pack of Oliva O Ole Maduros.
egruff Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2003, 10:51 AM EST
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I have to agree that the Oliva family is producing some awesome smokes. The "O" Maduros are superior to the Flor de Olivas, but do cost more. One thing I've noticed about Nicaraguan smokes is the buzz factor - as good as any I've had. After a martini and Flor de Oliva Churchill, I came precariously close to falling in my swimming pool on the way back into the house!

One note - the Oliva Tobacco Co in Florida is completely unrelated to the Olivas who produce the cigars.

E
Charlie Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2003, 11:01 AM EST
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The Oliva O Maddies will give you a nice buzz!!! Powerhouses!

Charlie
Slimboli Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2003, 5:26 PM EST
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egruff --- the two families ARE distantly related, it's just that one family grows only for distribution to the major cigar manufacturers, and the other makes cigars.

The URL I posted above is about the family that grows the tobacco (and does not make cigars), and this one is about the family that does ...

http://www.olivacigar.com/oliva_life_tobacco.htm

This is a quote from John Oliva, that I borrowed from another forum, in which he is an active member:

Shane is correct we are distantly related. We do in fact get along very well. There has never been any animosity between my family (Oliva Tobacco Co. - the tobacco growers) and Gilberto Oliva (Oliva Cigar Co. - the cigar makers).

As I have stated many times on this board they are a valued customer of our company, and I'm frankly proud that some of our tobacco goes into their product. They make a damn good cigar.

About the only problem we ever had was when they started their cigar company I guess some 6 or 7 years ago, and called it Oliva Tobacco Co. This was done unintentionally. You know how we settled it. My father called Gilberto Jr and said there would be a problem with that creating confusion with our customers who might think we had gone into the cigar manufacturing bussiness.

Gilbertico agreed and changed the company name to Oliva Cigar. No lawyers, no threats of lawsuits, and no hard feelings. All it took was a simple ten minute phone conversation.

Now for the record - Oliva Tobacco Co. (my company) only grows tobacco. We sell tobacco in some form or another to just about every major cigar manufacturer outside of Cuba. Tabacalera Oliva (Oliva Cigar Co.) makes only cigars and grows some tobacco for their own use. Our families relationship goes all the way back to Cuba, but the two companies are not related in any way.


I hope this clears some things up ...
egruff Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Jan 16 2003, 5:50 AM EST
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Slimboli,

Understood. My intent was to say that there is no business connection from our (cigar smokers) viewpoint. A few of my buddies (incorrectly) assumed that the Oliva Tobacco Co. produces the cigars.

Regardless of the connection, great smokes!!!

E
jd1 Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jan 16 2003, 11:18 AM EST
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Smoked a FOG cameroon churchill last night that I awoke from an 8 month rest. Very very easily comparable to a CAO cammie at less than half the cost. Draw was perfect, nice n oily, and clouds of rich smoke. I still enjoy my aged CAO cammies, but with these FOG cammies sleeping alongside, my CAOs last that much longer.
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