I must say I'm pleasently surprised. I haven't been on cbid too long, and as I said in an earlier post, there are many cigars I've never seen at my tobacconist and never heard of. I ordered some 5 packs with a box I just got, am enjoying a 5 Vegas torp right now. It's very nice IMO. Could use a little age, funny smell (i think perhaps partially from youth?), but good construction and burn. Nice flavor, medium body, easy to dance to. Not a bad smoke at all.