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Who was Jesus?
E-Chick Offline
#1 Posted:
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There were 3 good arguments that Jesus was Black:


1. He called everyone "brother"

2. He liked Gospel

3. He couldn't get a fair trial.


But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish:


1. He went into His Fathers business.

2. He lived at home until he was 33.

3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his mother was sure he was God.
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But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian:


1. He talked with his hands.

2. He had wine with every meal.

3. He used olive oil.


But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian:


1. He never cut his hair.

2. He walked around barefoot all the time.

3. He started a new religion.


But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish:


1. He never got married.

2. He was always telling stories.

3. He loved green pastures.


But the most compelling evidence of all---

3 proofs that Jesus was a woman:


1. He fed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food.

2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it

3. And even when he was dead, He had to get up because there was more work to do.


Can I hear an Amen from the ladies!?
daveyg2 Offline
#2 Posted:
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Amen.

daveyg2
JonR Offline
#3 Posted:
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I don't get it... hehe, BTW Jesus was Polish when he was a carpenter he shortened his name from Christinski to Christ for business reasons. JonR
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#4 Posted:
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e chick

excellent post. i'll give you an amen.
Slimboli Offline
#5 Posted:
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... hummmmmm ... so far only two 'ladies'???

;^)
Charlie Offline
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Great Post!

Charlie
jdrabinski Offline
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Jesus was also a guy who'd be horrified by what american christians do in his name. I'll say that much.

Support the death penalty? The guy was a VICTIM of the death penalty, for God's sake (no pun intended).

donutboy2000 Offline
#8 Posted:
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He came to earth to be a victim of the death penalty. Somewhat pretentious to think that you could speak for Christ and what would horrify Him today.
usahog Offline
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he's trying to toss at me Donut... Notice he say's American Christians... when if he knew **** about the bible or History... America wasn't even apart of his (Jesus's) Crusifix

John needs to stick to blowing smoke up college students A$$'s... LMAO!!!!!

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted:
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someone help me please. i remember reading the actual number of words spoken by christ according to the bible, but i can't find the reference to it.

donutboy2000

without my exact number, i can only point out to you that every evangelist, priest, minister, preacher, and all the other's who prostelytize, tell anyone who will listen what jesus said or what he meant by what he said. that would make them all
"Somewhat pretentious"
Todog Offline
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Wasn't he a hispanic or latino character on Hill Street Blues?
xibbumbero Offline
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Jesus is my next door neighbor. X
emgjet Offline
#13 Posted:
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Nice post E-Chick.

LOL at Todog and X above!
jdrabinski Offline
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usahog, I said 'American christians' because they are the only christians I know much about, other than the Vatican. Nothing personal, actually.

Donutboy, Jesus came with a message, it was recorded, I've read it and thought about it a lot, so I don't feel at all inhibited about interpreting it. Pretty hard to interpret wrongly the message of mercy over retribution. In fact, that is pretty much the central motif of the four gospels.

Yes, I know he had to die to save humanity. So, I reform my statement: Jesus is hardly a death penalty supporter, except for those cases of a messianic character whose death will save the human race.

That pretty much doesn't cover anyone on death row here or elsewhere.

John
E-Chick Offline
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John,

Them is big words...dunno if'n w'all get it!

LOL!

I'm glad everyone has enjoyed my post and fed their thoughts with it...

xibbumbero Offline
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What the hell did he say? X
usahog Offline
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Taken From Ricks Post:(every evangelist, priest, minister, preacher, and all the other's who prostelytize,tell anyone who will listen what jesus said or what he meant by what he said. that would make them all) and Now we have John,JDR,Ski are you trying to be a self Proclaimed Profit?? there was already a John in the Bible..."Jesus is hardly a death penalty supporter, except for those cases of a messianic character whose death will save the human race." Looks like Prophising (sp) to me...

Hog
jdrabinski Offline
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I am the way, I am the Truth. Follow me, usahog, to La Casa del Habano, and therein we shalt partake of the Lord's leafed blessings.

Amen.

Johnny Prophet
tarheel4lyf Offline
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Why did this go from being a nice friendly joke, to being a big philosophical debate over religion and capital punishment? Jesus, John........just read the nice post and move on.....
jamesconnors Offline
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religon is for the weak!
usahog Offline
#21 Posted:
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LMAO @ John!!!

I am weak... there is not a day go by I do not Thank God above for the strength to carry on... I also Thank him every morning for the Beautiful Day he has allowed myself to see... he instills paitents in me so that I do not do things that would render myself unsafe to Society!!!!

Hog
usahog Offline
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BTW E, I enjoyed your Original Post here!!!

Hog
Charlie Offline
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The original post was really neat, before all of the ususal threadjacking took place!

Oh, at least nobody has forwarded an argument for Jesus being French............HE WAS NOT WISHY-WASHY!
Thus, no way he could be French!

Charlie
E-Chick Offline
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Hey, any PR for the man, the anti-myth, the God, is good PR.

PTL!
Mr.Mean Offline
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PR using god in reference to your racist type casting is not so good.
E-Chick Offline
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God created the races...
Mr.Mean Offline
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and the racist.
E-Chick Offline
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MrMean, maybe you will take the time to read and can understand this...since it's from a libertarian (although I am definitely not a libertarian) perspective. I found this at samizdata.net.


Tuesday, May 07, 2002
Brian Micklethwait (London)Immigration|

"Give me a definition of racist."

The BBC's John Simpson was shown on last night's TV news interviewing the late Pim Fortuyn. Fortuyn said something along the lines of: "we have guests who are trying to take over the house." Said Simpson: "That sounds very racist to me." Replied Fortuyn: "Give me a definition of racist." At which point the BBC report ended.

I sympathise with Fortuyn on this. If ever there was a word that can mean several different things within the same conversation, or even the same paragraph or sentence, that word is "racist".

David Carr and I had an exchange on Samizdata not long ago in which I said that the number of definitions of "multiculturalism" was two, while he replied that it was zero. Number of definitions of "racist"? Well, let's see how many we can think of.

- Believing that races differ from each other.

- Believing that races differ from each other in important ways, like intelligence or physical abilities.

- Believing that races differ from each other in important ways, like intelligence or physical abilities, for genetic reasons rather than because of cultural or environmental circumstances.

- Believing that because of such differences, members of different races should have different political rights.

- Believing that a particular group of people who are racially different are also different in their culture.

- Believing that a particular group of people who are racially different are also different in their culture, for genetic rather than historically contingent reasons.

- Not liking the different culture associated with a different race and wanting that culture changed, opposed, corrected, or confronted.

- Because of believing that a member of a different race is likely to be different in a particular way, believing that this particular member of the different race is himself likely to be different in this particular way.

- Believing that this particular member of a different race is different in this way, even when you have got to know him individually and know that it isn't so.

- Believing that all the members of a particular race should be murdered.

I haven't polished this list, or tried to make it exhaustive. I've listed ten different meanings, but if you took as long doing your version of the list as I have just taken doing mine, it would probably contain a different number of items, and if you took as long as you needed to get yours exactly right, your list would probably be a lot longer (as would mine). But my point here is not to start a "how many meanings and exactly what are they?" debate.

My point is merely the simpler one that according to some definitions of "racist" almost everybody is racist, while according to other definitions, hardly anyone is.

Who does not believe, for example, that races differ from one another? Who but a total ignoramus about the world and its ways sincerely believes that there is no such thing as a cultural difference associated with any racial difference, anywhere?

But, so frightened are we of being called racist that we would sooner deny everything on the list, whoever compiled it, rather than risk being thus labelled. The few brave or perhaps brutal souls who are prepared to admit to "racism", that is, who tick yes to some of the items on the list, even as they strenuously deny others, demonstrate with their fate why denying everything makes sense.

Yet for the majority of thinking people to be denying everything is also very dangerous, because important truths get neglected in public debate, such as the exact truth about Muslim culture, and the exact things that ought, and ought not, to be done about this truth.

Equally dangerous is that if, under challenge from someone like Mr. Le Pen, any of the items on the list are admitted through clenched teeth to be true, it is then liable to be assumed that therefore the entire racist agenda, racist by any definition, has been acknowledged to be correct, when in fact defensive lines can be dug in between different items, and should be. It is assumed, that is to say, that the one huge defensive line must be drawn this side of "racism" by any definition. But this is to concede that no worthwhile lines can or should be drawn between different items on the list.

It is this latter syndrome that the nastier racists stand ready to exploit, as soon as any of their more obviously true complaints are conceded to have merit. I can see why lots of the people who read things like Samizdata want even quite nasty racists to do well electorally.

Few of such readers are themselves nasty racists, but they want some of the more obvious truths about racial matters to be faced rather than funked in public debate. The trouble is that the nasty racists won't stop there. They'll use what power they are able to garner with the truth to spread untruths and to do truly nasty things.

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The definition of 'racist' according to the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary is this: (notice that the word 'racist' was not found, but the word 'racism' was brought up on the screen)

One entry found for racism.


Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
Date: 1936
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
- rac·ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adjective

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Exactly what are you trying to imply?

Still laughing at the "Useful Iraqi Translations"?

Yes, you are right...God did create the racist...the narrowminded, the mean...

I only wish I was witty enough to have composed the list of my original thread...

Don't start pointing fingers.

Mr.Mean Offline
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The basis of my definition for stating this as racist has already been posted. Yes, there can be many definitions of the word racist. My definition of your post is type casting.
It takes a lot of conscious effort not to be a racist in this day and age. It takes no effort to be one.
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