"Tell me hog. Would you fight harder if a member of the Iraqi press"
(He "Arnet" was not a member of the Iraqi Press,He was an American so he claims..and was Viewed as an American so it must be True then to them)
Why must it be true to them?
"had said that the Iraqi military leadership was ineffective?"
(No Because I am not of the Islamic Faith and I do not feel that I would be fighting Infidels who invaded my land)
The point of the hypothetical was to see if you could empathize enough to see his point of view.
(Didn't work)
"Would you fight with any less commitment if he had said the opposite? I suspect it would'nt mean a thing to you or any other soldier in the field."
(Your Assumpptions are Wrong)
Wasn't an assumption but a suspician. Now could you answer the question? Would you fight with any less commitment if he had said the opposite?
"and theirs have enough of it to spot it a mile away."
(Again, Not when an American is viewed on Television Saying what he Said)
Why would an american journalist on Iraqi TV have any more credibility then anyone else on Iraqi TV? Remember they hate and mistrust us.
"My belief is that the Iraqi soldier stays on the battlefield because the guy behind him is more dangerous then the one in front of him. The ones closer to Bagdad are there because they know that their close ties to the regime arent going to do them much good when it's gone. They have nothing to loose."
(Your Belief for the most part would be correct here.. but do not forget the Many Many Freedom fighters they have in the "Region" when I say Region... I am talking about Jordan,Saudi,Iran,Kuwait,Turkey,Syria,Egypt,Palistine and all around who through Al Jazeers Networks.. who constantly show Americans or Israili's shooting and then clip in a dead baby in a mothers arms and claim that this is what Americans and Israili's want to do to your family... so yes the Saddam Regime is Ruthless, but also these people have these other Images going on in there minds about Americans...
You are changing the subject. The discussion is about the Iraqi soldier and the possable effect Arnett's comments would have on his will to fight. (The freedom fighters you mentioned are religous zealots and are not representative of the Iraqi military. Hussain does'nt want those types in his army because he can't control them.) The militants are going to attack us when and where they can no matter what image of America we present. Al Jazeera will continue to show the United States in a negative light because that's what their viewers want to see. (Not unlike our networks I might add).
"""and We Americans Also in their Eye's Bailed out on them when they went up against Saddams Regime before 1991""""
We did bail on them right after the gulf war.
Thus as I stated, Arnet Should be Tried as a War Criminal and for Treason... because what he said would give these people a more will to fight against Us rather than for US... And as far as the Senetor Bunning.. "Spiny" do not try and twist this around to point away from Arnet... he Has the Blood on his Hands for Opening
his Yapper... Try him,Convict Him, and then Hang Him!!!!!
Better build a BIG SCAFFOLD. If your going to Hang Arnett, you will have to hang
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf who said
"I think we will prevail, but I think it would be much more effective if we didn't have to do it alone."
Some other retired generals who has not towed the party line.....
Barry McCaffrey
Wesley Clark
Edward Rowney.
Further down the chain of command but on active duty.....
Chief Warrant Officer Sean McNeal
"I honestly don’t think the Iraqi public wants us here," and "these people are not going to give up as easily as everyone expects. They're going to fight."
Harlan Ullman, (a Vietnam veteran and defense analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.)
"There are some real risks there," "if there's a blood bath in Baghdad, American opinion's going to be real divided."
Chief Warrant Officer Jesse Oliver said Friday
that before the invasion, an army general told him and other soldiers they would need "five days of hard fighting." Oliver added, "It's already taken longer."
Lt. Brett Lewis, 33, of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, said the war
"is going to be harder than what we planned for in the beginning."
Chief Warrant Officer Glen Woodard, 37 said
"We are invading their country," and "I'd be by my window with a shotgun, too."
and while were in a hangin mood, let's string up Lieut. Gen. William Wallace who said
"the enemy we're fighting is a bit different from the one we'd war-gamed against"
You can try and silence free speech with a noose but doesnt that mean that you have become your enemy?
"The statements of Peter Arnett won't make the tiniest differance in the duration or outcome of the war."
(that is Leftest BS Comment, the same as Bill Clinton and the things he did made no difference to this Country)
"Calling for him to be brought up on charges of treason are nothing more then grandstanding and are a waste of time." (Again Leftest, Just as if the things Willy Did should have been left alone and it was a waist of time and tax payers Money)
I'm not Grabdstanding and I'm an American Tax Payer... and I Say Try Him,Convict Him, and Hang Him!!!!! Spend my Money but do it for the Good of the People!!!!!
If we are going to start hanging folks for the good of the people, may I suggest the Executives of Enron, Qwest, Tyco, Adelphia Communications, Global Crossing, Arthur Anderson and WorldCom They certainly did some damage to this country.
I will happily provide the rope unless your only interested in hanging Democrats.
-Spiny
