i smoke these driving to and from wherever. the 852's are good in a casino when you want 2 slot machines side by side. the place usually clears out before i even light the cigar. it's a good 2 hour smoke, so no one sits next to us except other cigar smokers, who, of course are the people you want to talk to. now, please tell me where the $29.95 close outs are.
[email protected] incidentally you can install a clock mechanism on the side and the box makes a great pencil and misc holder. i wish i had seen the post before i overbid on the 5 packs.