Nope, but here's a review from someone I trust


"Smoked one OTT. Ugly as sin but rolled like a railroad spike. Fully packed and no soft spots. Wrappers are dull and veiny. Light it up, perfect resistance on the draw and TONS of smoke! Just like LPs seem like they are dipped in oil, the smoke off of the cigars as they rest is quite similar. Full bodied for sure, but a bit young tasting. Ligas? I dunno, but with a little rest, this was a good buy after just the first one."

Nice. Thanks!

Oh I bought those no questions asked.

Here is the sales pitch... I mean story:

To say these are value cigars is an understatement. That phrase sounds like the cigars are basic, economy, or even low-quality. This is the Holy Grail of cigars - a top-quality, factory-direct handmade first made by one of the finest factories in Nicaragua. The brand is Class 34 and this blend is called simply Maduro Blend No. 9. It's medium-bodied, slightly sweet with some spiciness. Gorgeous maduro wrappers, slow burners with ample flavor from head to toe. Basic branding, factory-direct.

Here's the Class 34 story:
Why do some good cigars cost so much – and why so much variation in costs between blends? The answer, which may be obvious, is brand name. I’ll acknowledge there’s some art to cigar making but at this day in age the production itself is more science. Established, accepted processes for growing tobacco, fermentation and pre-industry, and cigar production are more uniformly followed than at any point in history. Innovations are only incremental at this point, as fewer barriers exist with less hidden knowledge than ever before. So any factory that wants to meet the threshold of making quality cigars can.

To make an analogy: there are some objectively bad or inexperienced micro-breweries (not simply makers of beer that doesn’t suit your taste). But these low quality brewers don’t last. Meanwhile quality brewpubs and craft brewers are ubiquitous and you'll find them in every town from Dubuque, IA to Tampa FL to Oxford, MS to Albany, NY. Likewise, there are bad or inexperienced cigar makers, corner-cutters, or factories who choose to specialize in cheap cigars for the “barely premium” value market. Set those aside for a minute. For the rest, with any volume it costs a dime more at the factory level to make a good premium vs. basic handmade…which after taxes landed in the states call it a 20-cent difference. With each additional cent of cost put into the production of a cigar, there’s a quickly diminishing - if not vanishing - incremental increase in quality.

Back to cost, why is it $10, $12 or more a cigar on the shelf? 75-cents might be import taxes and shipping cost. There are middlemen markups. There is often pricing policies where brands mandate that retailers double the price. There are also sales taxes. But mainly, some brands can simply command more – as they count on their marketing spending to capture that premium price, not because it’s any better. These brands often pay retailers co-op and other fees for placement in their store. These costs and markups are all passed to you, and what you get in return is zero. Hence the old saw: “what’s the difference between a $2 cigar and a $12 cigar?” Answer: “10 bucks.”

Today, there is no reason for that. Better cigars need not cost more. Class 34 cigars are straight from factory to you. No middlemen, no inefficiencies, no needless markups.

So I tried one of these (toro) with only 2 days humi rest. I'll have to say these sticks are a steal for $2. Easily a $4-$5 stick ROTT and with some age could be a $6-$7 stick IMO. Has a nice maduro sweetness all the way through with a little spice build starting around the halfway point. Nice construction, burn and draw. I smoked it down to almost a half inch nub. Here are a few pics I took:

http://warriorbreaks.com/misc/cigars/Class34Maduro01.jpg
http://warriorbreaks.com/misc/cigars/Class34Maduro02.jpg
http://warriorbreaks.com/misc/cigars/Class34Maduro03.jpg
http://warriorbreaks.com/misc/cigars/Class34Maduro04.jpg

(side note: having auto hyperlinks turned off for everything except cbid and CI is phuucking DUMB. Also the cuss word sensor BS)

234 cigars in 35 days and you couldn't find the time for one?

Slacker.

I used to say **** sales reps.

Then I did.


Look where that got me.

Smoked another one of these yesterday and these are way under valued imo. Won my longest ash ever. Was over 3/4 of a 6.5in toro. Check it:
http://warriorbreaks.com/misc/cigars/Class34MaduroLongestAsh.jpg

<-------------ash and a$$ man right hur

Anyone try the Habano ones?

Never thought I'd say this to another man, but I admire your big ash.

Wait a minute. The one review said the wrapper was thin and easily tore. IIRC, the LP9 has a CBL leaf which is quite thick. Could be the same cigar, and my memory could be wrong since it's been a while since I smoked an LP 9 (they have gotten quite expensive, and I prefer the cousin, the T52 just a little bit more). If it's got an easily torn wrapper, that doesn't sound like many CBL-wrapped cigars I can recall.

Anyone? Ever smoke a line of CBL-wrapped cigars that had fragile wrappers? Seriously wondering. I've smoked many good maduros with wrapper grown elsewhere (Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Ecuador, etc.).

Maybe it's like the Undercrown, but they only had a small pile of wrappers. or perhaps they had SA wrappers that were too ugly to invite to the big dance.

toros?

you can count me in for a 5er or 10er of either, i can also do both. let me know how youd want $ buddy

OK. They are ordered, a bundle each Habano Toro's and Maduro Robusto's. PM me your addresses and we'll sort it out.

V

#29 Thank you. It bugs me a little when I'm trying to find out the origin of a wrapper, that is the type. Just listing "maduro" doesn't tell me much besides the fact that it's dark. I suppose they have their reasons for secrecy, but I have enough smokes to sit this one out on the sidelines (although I do appreciate notice of bargains as much as the next BOTL, so many thanks for your info.).

Oddly, I see the same cigars, same price, same sales pitch on another...shall we say field? Looks like our friends in PA have another online biz, or someone is plagiarizing the heck out of them and just happens to carry the same cigars. Both are sold out in the same vitolas as well.

With all of the mergers, purchases, partial purchases, spinoffs, retirements that get unretired, sales followed five years later by solo efforts, etc., I'm glad I'm not single and working in the cigar business. I'd be afraid that if I dated a co-worker, a few years down the road, I'd find out I'd married a half sister or cousin or something. I need a Game of Thrones-like map to see who all owns what in the cigar business now.

Low price and good.

Gunner was kind enough to split a bundle of the Habanos with me. Since they went from one mailing to the next, i assumed they would be even drier so let them rest in the humi for a couple of days.

Should have let it rest more. Still dry and had a very severe cracking problem after the cut and during the smoke.

The flavors were pretty good. Much milder than the Maduro -- on the mild side of medium I would say. Despite the cracking, it burned a good long time. Hopefully after enough rest, they will not be so fragile.

A good cigar and I think worth the price, but I do prefer the Maduro, Stronger, more flavor, more spice.

UPDATE: After a month of humi-time the cracking problem seems to be resolved. They must have had these cigars just sitting on a loading dock out in the sun or something.

good man. factor in the price, and then fing good

Went over to that spot to order some more. Many sizes are sold out. This time I decided to try the Churchills.

No excuses....

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-120-Quart-Xtreme-6-Day-Heavy-Duty-Cooler-Dark-Blue/14574678

Guys, I would get skinned alive if I augmented this more than the two desktops I already have.

https://imgur.com/RSabgoM
https://imgur.com/UeNLazL


Skinned.

No excuses. I know a guy who does good drywall work.

https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/20-sneaky-storage-ideas-12281#slim-kitchen-storage-unit

LOL.