151. Author: Palama | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 2:18PM EST | |
JadeRose wrote:Many people have been associated to being Jimi's "favorite" guitarist through the years. Billy Gibbons, Albert King, Rory Gallagher and one that has not been mentioned here but damn well should be.....Terry Kath.
Kath got screwed. He was the heart and soul of Chicago and those albums before he died are astonishingly good. The live albums are even better. Kath's mastery of his instrument was total and you could feel the heart he played with. Peter Cetera ruined that band and ruined Kath. This is one of my favorite videos on the intertubes.....The aggressive style and impatience that Kath displays waiting on the drummer is intense. PLUS...Kath had the balls to tell the British press what he (rightly) REALLY thought of Clapton..."HE SUCKS". So while I may think Jimi was the best, Jimi thought Kath was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uAUoz7jimg Makes me sad to think about Terry. Such a talent and gone w-a-y too soon. Still remember buying the CTA album from the Downtown Singer (...yes, the sewing machine people...) for $3.37 and was blown away with TK’s playing. And for the record, FLOCK Peter Cetera! |
152. Author: Sunoverbeach | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 2:37PM EST | |
I remember absconding with the CTA album from Dad's collection, along with several others. Told him of give em back once he got a working turntable again. Had them for like 15yrs now |
153. Author: Palama | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 3:13PM EST | |
Sunoverbeach wrote:I remember absconding with the CTA album from Dad's collection, along with several others. Told him of give em back once he got a working turntable again. Had them for like 15yrs now Not sure if I still have my vinyl copy of CTA and have been “thinking” of getting a new turntable for years now. It’s just not a priority given all my stereo equipment is still in storage and hafta paint our daughter’s old room before moving my stuff back in. But bringing the equipment in is one thing, after that I have to figure out what to do with my CDs. I lost count many moons ago but easily close to if not over 2,000. First World problem fo’ sure. |
154. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 4:04PM EST | |
When Jimi needed help or ideas he would bounce off of the legendary John McLaughlin
Jimi loved him some Randy California too.
Enough that he gave him his name.
https://youtu.be/vzDDOlIdEbk |
155. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 4:23PM EST | |
Palama wrote:Not sure if I still have my vinyl copy of CTA and have been “thinking” of getting a new turntable for years now. It’s just not a priority given all my stereo equipment is still in storage and hafta paint our daughter’s old room before moving my stuff back in. But bringing the equipment in is one thing, after that I have to figure out what to do with my CDs. I lost count many moons ago but easily close to if not over 2,000.
First World problem fo’ sure. I went to MP3 and FLAC. Monitor speakers...I dont miss the records nor the CDs In my car I have like 5 thumb drives...one is what I call a mix tape, the other is the Raconteurs, another one is devoted to new music to see if I like it and the rest are discographies of bands I want to go deep with or fully understand. It just got to the point where it was all taking up too much room and nowadays I wanted to simplify. |
156. Author: Whistlebritches | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 4:27PM EST | |
I am a Zeppelin ho.........Jimmy Page hands down no argument will ever change my mind.I was about 10 or 11 when I listened to my first LZ album,Led Zeppelin II.I went straight out and picked I,II & III,spring of 72 I finally found IV,it had been released late 71 but took a while to find it's way to West Texas.After listening to IV I knew I was listening to the greatest rock band of all time and the greatest guitarist of all time.By 75 I had added "Houses of the Holy","Physical Graffiti" and some bad ass Mexican weed that brought a whole new element to Page's riffs.When John Bonham died in 1980 Page just never sound the same again but from 69 -80 Page was and still is the King of Guitarist. |
157. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 5:32PM EST | |
I thought Outrider was a great album for Page. Enjoyed The Firm as well. Can't forget the Death Wish II soundtrack.
Pssst... out of all those guys from the Yardbirds...Page is light years ahead of them. |
158. Author: MACS | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 6:13PM EST | |
Light years ahead of Beck and Clapton?
Yeah, no. |
159. Author: Whistlebritches | Date: Sat, 7/25/2020, 6:41PM EST | |
MACS wrote:Light years ahead of Beck and Clapton?
Yeah, no. UMM yeah........light years |
160. Author: Palama | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 12:22AM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:I went to MP3 and FLAC. Monitor speakers...I dont miss the records nor the CDs
In my car I have like 5 thumb drives...one is what I call a mix tape, the other is the Raconteurs, another one is devoted to new music to see if I like it and the rest are discographies of bands I want to go deep with or fully understand.
It just got to the point where it was all taking up too much room and nowadays I wanted to simplify. I think there's a part of me that wants to do that too but I'm just too old school to downsize that much. Too many albums, too many years working in the record / music / electronic industries to get rid of old vinyl, CDs as well as stereo equipment. I'm thinking there's gonna be a day when something will break and I won't be able to fix or replace it and then I'll be forced to step into the 21st century. |
161. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 7:11AM EST | |
Palama wrote:I think there's a part of me that wants to do that too but I'm just too old school to downsize that much. Too many albums, too many years working in the record / music / electronic industries to get rid of old vinyl, CDs as well as stereo equipment. I'm thinking there's gonna be a day when something will break and I won't be able to fix or replace it and then I'll be forced to step into the 21st century. Believe me, it was hard for me too. I ripped most of the rarities, outtakes and unreleased stuff I had. I had a collection that could fill walls. At one point I actually had record bins from a store that had closed. When I moved back to Florida I let it go. Moved them in boxes several times and got to the point that they were just taking up space. In my heart I held them dear. The lovely artwork, the liner notes, the posters, the freebies, and the colored vinyl. In the end though it was so worth it to me. I ended up putting them on Craigslist and when a dealer called about a listing and came over to buy one he saw the entire collection. His mouth dropped and he asked me how much for the entire enchilada. I showed him how and what I used to come up with the amounts and it was fair. I knocked a bit off because. Change is difficult. |
162. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 7:14AM EST | |
MACS wrote:Light years ahead of Beck and Clapton?
Yeah, no. Beck comes closer with his experimentation, but Clapton? Gimmie an example of what you believe to be him at his best. |
163. Author: JadeRose | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 11:53AM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:Beck comes closer with his experimentation, but Clapton? Gimmie an example of what you believe to be him at his best. IMHO, Clapton's best work was with Cream or even the Beatles but the best part of Cream was Ginger Baker. Hell, the best playing on his best song was done by Duane Allman. Clapton has just never done anything for me. Technically proficient but no heart. By the time the 70's rolled around, we didn't need him anymore as we had JJ Cale. Cale was a waaaay better "Clapton" |
164. Author: JadeRose | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 11:54AM EST | |
I've always found Beck to be "meh" as well. |
165. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 12:12PM EST | |
JadeRose wrote:IMHO, Clapton's best work was with Cream or even the Beatles but the best part of Cream was Ginger Baker. Hell, the best playing on his best song was done by Duane Allman. Clapton has just never done anything for me. Technically proficient but no heart. By the time the 70's rolled around, we didn't need him anymore as we had JJ Cale. Cale was a waaaay better "Clapton" =d> Albert King, Buddy Guy and John Lee Hooker were all cooking with fire in the 70's. Well, that feeds into what I've always said here and everywhere...Clapton in the confines of a group is passable. On his own? No. There are much better Blues players than him and he copies them. Cream was really Jack Bruce's band. Blind Faith was Steve's. Derek and the Dominos was Duane's. The Bluesbreakers was Mayall's...So, where is this song that rivals Kashmir, Communication Breakdown, No Quarter. The Rover or even the multi-tracked Stairway to Heaven to unseat Page? Beck has 4 solid albums from front to back that are all him...Truth, Beck-ola, Blow By Blow and There & Back. Does he unseat Jimmy with those? Nope. Led Zeppelin's 1st album is pretty much all of Page's handiwork. He had a lot of this ready to go when he was with the Yardbirds but they weren't going to do it. He had to leave. Seeing Jeff Beck live is a must see though. |
166. Author: JadeRose | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 12:31PM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote: Albert King, Buddy Guy and John Lee Hooker were all cooking with fire in the 70's. Well, that feeds into what I've always said here and everywhere...Clapton in the confines of a group is passable. On his own? No. There are much better Blues players than him and he copies them. Cream was really Jack Bruce's band. Blind Faith was Steve's. Derek and the Dominos was Duane's. The Bluesbreakers was Mayall's...So, where is this song that rivals Kashmir, Communication Breakdown, No Quarter. The Rover or even the multi-tracked Stairway to Heaven to unseat Page? Beck has 4 solid albums from front to back that are all him...Truth, Beck-ola, Blow By Blow and There & Back. Does he unseat Jimmy with those? Nope. Led Zeppelin's 1st album is pretty much all of Page's handiwork. He had a lot of this ready to go when he was with the Yardbirds but they weren't going to do it. He had to leave. Seeing Jeff Beck live is a must see though. Agree with all points. I don't dislike Beck. He's just never lit a fire for me. |
167. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 12:35PM EST | |
JadeRose wrote:Agree with all points. I don't dislike Beck. He's just never lit a fire for me. Have you seen him live though? Did I mention that he doesn't use a pick? I've seen him several times and each one with different personnel that were all top notch. The pinnacle was Tal Wilkenfeld. She's a phenom on her own. |
168. Author: RMAN4443 | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 12:39PM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:Have you seen him live though?
Did I mention that he doesn't use a pick?
I've seen him several times and each one with different personnel that were all top notch. The pinnacle was Tal Wilkenfeld. She's a phenom on her own. She's not hard to look at either... |
169. Author: JadeRose | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 1:23PM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:Have you seen him live though?
Did I mention that he doesn't use a pick?
I've seen him several times and each one with different personnel that were all top notch. The pinnacle was Tal Wilkenfeld. She's a phenom on her own. No. Never seen him. Never bothered. |
170. Author: Palama | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 3:42PM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:Have you seen him live though?
Did I mention that he doesn't use a pick?
I've seen him several times and each one with different personnel that were all top notch. The pinnacle was Tal Wilkenfeld. She's a phenom on her own. Seen Jeff only twice...back when he was still using a pick! First time was in ‘73, Beck, Bogart and Appice. We sat in the 1st row, stage right, right in front of the main speakers. Couldn’t get the ringing out of my ears for a couple of days. Second time was in ‘75, Blow By Blow tour. Max Middleton, Bernard Purdie and Wilbur Bascomb. Beck played both his black Les Paul as well as Strat(s). Heard he was sick as a dog but left the hospital to play. As far as I can tell, he put on a full show (...based upon setlists from other shows from this tour...). |
171. Author: dkeage | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 4:09PM EST | |
Saw Beck in November 1989 on The Fire and the Fury tour with SRV. I was there to see Stevie, for what was my 7th and last time. |
172. Author: Palama | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 4:33PM EST | |
dkeage wrote:Saw Beck in November 1989 on The Fire and the Fury tour with SRV. I was there to see Stevie, for what was my 7th and last time. Texas, New Mexico or Colorado? |
173. Author: dkeage | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 4:57PM EST | |
Palama wrote:Texas, New Mexico or Colorado? Sam Houston Coliseum in Houston. Missed SRV in June of 1990, cuz I avoid outdoor venues after Memorial Day. Saw SRV earlier in 89 with The Who. Think that was marketed as Bud Lites biggest party in History. Lots of bands on stages in the parking lot of the astrodome. |
174. Author: Dg west deptford | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 5:18PM EST | |
Phil Keaggy At least that's what Jimi Hendrix said to Phil Donahue when he interviewed him on his show. Donahue, " how's it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world?" Hendrix, " I don't know. Ask Phil Keaggy"
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175. Author: MACS | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 5:24PM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:Beck comes closer with his experimentation, but Clapton? Gimmie an example of what you believe to be him at his best. I'd not pick Clapton as a great. But Jimmy Page is not 'light years' ahead of him... or Beck. Better? It's a matter of opinion, of course, as the whole conversation is... but to say Page is better than Beck and Clapton by 'light years' is just flawed. And I'm a Zeppelin fan. I have every album except Coda. Which sucked. |
176. Author: Dg west deptford | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 5:31PM EST | |
^^ shoulda checked that rumor on the Google channel first apparantly fake news. Heard that rumor by several sources but apparently not true? |
177. Author: JadeRose | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 5:37PM EST | |
Dg west deptford wrote:^^ shoulda checked that rumor on the Google channel first apparantly fake news. Heard that rumor by several sources but apparently not true? Yeah....pretty sure Phil Donahue never interviewed Hendrix. ****** Cavett did and Hendrix said he (Hendrix) was the best guitarist sitting in his chair |
178. Author: Palama | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 6:21PM EST | |
dkeage wrote:Sam Houston Coliseum in Houston. Missed SRV in June of 1990, cuz I avoid outdoor venues after Memorial Day. Saw SRV earlier in 89 with The Who. Think that was marketed as Bud Lites biggest party in History. Lots of bands on stages in the parking lot of the astrodome. Rats! Don't have a Houston show from that tour. Got Austin and Amarillo though.... Astrodome - Sept. 2? Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble The Astrodome Houston, TX September 2, 1989 Stevie Ray Vaughan: guitar, vocals Chris Layton: drums Tommy Shannon: bass Reese Wynans: keyboards CASSETTE (UNKNOWN GEN)> CDR > EAC > WAV> FLAC> BADASS SRV FANS! 1.The House Is Rockin' 2:45 2.Tightrope 4:59 3.Love Me Darlin 3:22 4.Texas Flood 5:44 5.Superstition 4:35 6.Cold Shot 6:08 7.Couldn't Stand The Weather 7:30 8.Crossfire 4:00 9.Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) 6:37 Total Time: 45:30 B+ Sound Quality A+ Show Killer Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)! Great Tightrope! Smokin' Crossfire! An absoulutely killer show all around! Recommended! Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) cuts out at the absolute end of the song on this copy(Last 5 seconds), however there is another copy that has the rest and the encore Look At Little Sister. I know that roryglzep has it. |
179. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 8:15PM EST | |
MACS wrote:Amd I'm a Zeppelin fan. I have every album except Coda. Which sucked. Really? https://youtu.be/ZAiifpkWZfA https://youtu.be/ThyIlQnapJk?list=PLt1jZECHdsMd897ZEzKuTkGaWOIjGLfkS Not Page's greatest work but Bonham's.... https://youtu.be/146bp1FuobU All off Coda. So, where is this great Clapton song? |
180. Author: MACS | Date: Sun, 7/26/2020, 8:33PM EST | |
Do you just pick and choose what you read and comprehend?
Coda sucked. I don't like any of the music... and ONCE a-fkn-gain... I didn't say Clapton was a virtuoso. I said Page was not 'light years' ahead of him in skill. And he isn't. |
181. Author: JadeRose | Date: Mon, 7/27/2020, 8:18AM EST | |
Why does MACS hate Clapton so much in these times? |
182. Author: bgz | Date: Mon, 7/27/2020, 11:06AM EST | |
Page was good, but a lot of their sh*t was stolen.
Lot of guitarists better than Page though.
Stevie Ray and Jimi for sure.
Move up to the 80s, there were a bunch (decade was known for their shreaders)...
Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhodes, Satriani, Slash, Steve Vai (and a bunch of others)... |
183. Author: Steel Talon | Date: Mon, 7/27/2020, 7:34PM EST | |
Jerry Reed Roy Clark Glen Campbel
Prove me wrong.... |
184. Author: Palama | Date: Tue, 7/28/2020, 8:34PM EST | |
I think people forget this guy other than the fact that his name is synonymous with the guitar.
Les Paul
You wanna talk "greatest", this guy was absolutely light years ahead of any of his contemporaries and a HUGE influence on modern day guitar players. Without some of the things he did, music as we know it, would be totally different and the guitar players we idolize today might be digging ditches instead of shredding a fingerboard. Just a quick list why he should be considered THE greatest:
Early pioneer of the solid body guitar. Sure, he didn't invent it but "The Log" and LP's determination to get it right would ultimately evolve into his namesake guitar.
Inventor / Developer / Early major user of: Overdubbing Echo Delay Flanging Multitrack recording
Award winning country, jazz and blues guitar player.
Only person in both the Rock 'n Rock HoF as well as the National Inventors HoF.
Listen to his recordings from the '40s and '50s and know that often times, it would be the very first time his playing or recording technique was ever used. And yes, I did gloss over the things he did but to do total justice would entail writing a rather lengthy post. Hmm, not today but fo' sure Google can be your friend. |
185. Author: Whistlebritches | Date: Tue, 7/28/2020, 9:41PM EST | |
MACS wrote:
And I'm a Zeppelin fan. I have every album except Coda. Which sucked.
I didn't care for "Coda" except for one song, "Hey Hey What Can I Do" and I didn't like the "In through the Out Door" album at all.Every thing prior to the ITTOD release is in my favorites all time list. |
186. Author: MACS | Date: Thu, 8/6/2020, 11:19AM EST | |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIFdMbhCa94
SRV... in the middle of jamming... string breaks... doesn't miss a beat. |
187. Author: Palama | Date: Thu, 8/6/2020, 1:25PM EST | |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpY_9qY-j1g
As with any “Top xx _____” list, some missing, some how’d-that-make-the-list selections. |
188. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 8/6/2020, 2:27PM EST | |
I think you’re looking at a few categories here:
Technician
Soul
Innovation
Now IMO you can point to leaders of each category or the best overall and however you stack it you’re gonna have some old ugly bassturds here arguing about who’s wrong when we know I’m always right. |
189. Author: Palama | Date: Sat, 2/26/2022, 3:07PM EST | |
It’s still Les Paul. |
190. Author: RayR | Date: Sat, 2/26/2022, 6:10PM EST | |
DrMaddVibe wrote:And again...I say...F**K ERIC CLAPTON...and his rickety helicopter that KILLED SRV!
EC has spent his entire life ripping off Blues legends...except when he's in a band..being pushed to play material that's bounced off of other musicians. Who in Blues Rock didn't get their inspiration from Blues legends? https://youtu.be/7HfkSzsyh1E |
191. Author: Palama | Date: Sat, 2/26/2022, 7:34PM EST | |
Relocating Antfree’s post from a different thread: Abrignac wrote:Arguing about the the greatest guitarists is like arguing about who cooks the best grits. At the end of the day, their is a group of very talented musicians who though very different are very similar. |
192. Author: Palama | Date: Tue, 5/31/2022, 2:13PM EST | |
Hey Tele, what are your thoughts? |
193. Author: CelticBomber | Date: Wed, 6/1/2022, 8:30AM EST | |
Lindsey Buckingham on acoustic. Try playing Never Going Back Again. His finger picking and cord shapes are crazy. Big Love and Bleed to Love Her are even harder. It usually takes two guitarists to play his parts because they are so complex and his style is all his own. |