I have a dead frog we could put in da cake...

The aforementioned commission seems like a step toward a totalitarion country to me. For the data to be of any use they wouldn't they need to know how someone voted? They do not have a right to know how someone voted. I guess there could be a value to knowing if someone voted, but that still seems very intrusive to me.

He also claimed mass voter fraud in Kansas, spent a lot of money going after it and found none

Kid's clearly a dumbazz who was trying to reach a registration quota. I am not sure how it translates to fraudulent votes yet. I'll be watching at 11

So he's convicted of voter fraud but it's not really voter fraud.. OK..

You'll just move the goal post again...

I think the whole premises of the voter fraud thing is that just because you can’t find a unicorn doesn’t mean they don’t exist. And are a problem. Defrauding the voters. And stuff.

But not like the Russians…..

Brewha..!!

Maybe then, the disconnect is in what is your/my definition of voter fraud?

And exactly what is the definition of the condition that you/I consider to be a problem that needs correcting on a national scale. Because, I think its entirely likely that nothing the guy did impacted actual VOTES. I still think the guy in the article above is a dumbazz and should do some time. But, I don't think that he constitutes or is representative of a big problem. Unless, those fraudulent registrations translate to fradulent votes somehow. Maybe there's some other 3rd or 4th order effects that I'm unaware of....maybe % numbers of 'registered' Dems (or Repubs) translates to some sort of appropriated funds disbursements...IDK....like that stupid $3 thing on my tax forms...is that somehow distributed in a ratio related to registered voter numbers?

I guess, to me, voter registration fraud isn't a problem if it is not related to vote fraud

wouldn't voter registration fraud also be conspiracy to commit voter fraud..?? otherwise what would be the point..??

ya, but the dead guy was now eligible to vote even tho he's not suppose to be...

...dammit. not what drafter said. What dsteig said.

And I'm eligible to commit murder.....but, can't say that it's a problem for anyone unless I actually do it

I think I'm registered in 3 states. I got something this year from one of them asking me to fill out a form to say if I'm still supposed to be registered there... I didn't bother. I don't know if that means I'm still registered or not.

well, ask the dude in jail if it's a big deal or not...

When I was working at Santa Ana College, during election years, there were many instances of Voter REGISTRATION Fraud...mostly people masquerading as Dems while trying to manipulate students into registering as Republicans. One time, a candidate for local office came on campus to confront a group of faux Dems and they got into a fight. There were several arrests. One sneaky registration worker was notorious, and had been charged several times in different cities in LA and Orange counties...

Anyone who does this sort of thing should be convicted and sentenced. like this kid...

Big difference between REGISTRATION fraud and VOTING fraud, tho...

...aren't the Trump kids, Bannon and Kushner REGISTERED in multiple states?

Should victor and dstieger delete their posts...incriminating?

yeah, back then I posted something about the many people in the Trump campaign and family who were registered in multiple locations, and several folks here discovered that they were as well.

so far I've only seen a report of one person caught and convicted for voting more than once, and she voted twice for Trump...though I'm sure there were a few others on both sides.

Never been more than a red herring.

I never said that.. I was just disproving the notion that it never happens..

I saw big foot once.....

Lol not sure what that means

The head of the Chicago Republican Party is claiming the city reported thousands more votes cast than voters in the 2016 election -- sparking a battle with Chicago officials who call the allegations overblown.


First reported by the Chicago City Wire, the Chicago GOP filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Chicago Board of Elections in January for a list of voters who had cast ballots in November. According to the party, the board responded with a list of 1,101,178 individuals, though its website reflects 1,115,664 votes cast.

“There should be never be more votes than voters—every ballot cast should be recorded against a registered voter,” Chairman of the Chicago GOP Chris Cleveland told Fox News, explaining that after receiving the data, the party “immediately” contacted the board for “clarification.” “This is either massive fraud or massive incompetence, but we have no way of telling the difference because they won’t give us the data.”

The discrepancy totals more than 14,000, though Cleveland claims it could be as high as 16,000.

Cleveland told Fox News he filed a number of FOIA requests—the original in January, and “several follow ups” for updated numbers.

“They ignored them,” Cleveland said. “They have been stonewalling us for six months.”

Film at 11....

Ya, nothing to see here... I'm sure more votes than voters happens all the time....





Knee is getting better... Going back to work Monday... Hopefully I can put a shoe on that foot by then...

how does anyone know who the votes were for?

well, the only conviction was a woman who voted for Trump twice...and members of his family and many of his appointees and staff were registered in several places, so it coulda been all of them in Chicago.