Amazing how the modern left is taking turns saying "hold my beer, this is how you jump the shark"

More like... "You thought that was stupid? Watch this!"

I heard the want to replace it with either rappers delight or 911 is a joke

Just change it to something from Eminem :)


That'll really piss em off. Something about cultural appropriation or some chit.

I wrote a song about my puppy-dog once...

Maybe we could make that the new national anthem?

ah yeah.... good point. Can't trust them... they may try to secede or something...

Love This Land is your Land...
too controversial to happen though. Marxist stuff. Interesting tale about it being a reply to God Bless America that Guthrie hated.

There you go, keep it simple. Don't know why people complicate sh1t. Nobody knows that verse anyway (except everyone b1tching about it).

If it "AIN'T broke...DON'T fix it"

Change ....for Change's sake, is pure Stupidity...

My guess is...it's a slow news day and the CA NAACP
is grasping for notoriety...

when will it stop..?? every week there's something new that never bothered anyone until they were told to be bothered by it...

+1

How many times has a singer failed during the singing of our anthem? It's just a horrible piece of music; not the words the tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt3mSwp_wRo

And back on topic. The CA NAACP needs to not be triggered over something like this. Misplaced self righteous BS.

Come on, come on, lovin' for the money..
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk...

Where's Jesse and Al ?

So my interpretation of the 3rd Stanza....
Slave is speaking of us all, not just African Americans. In other words, being a “slave” to Great Britain.

I️ would think the 4th Stanza would be more of an issue for our lost Atheist.
“In God is our trust”.

As drafter says where does it stop. All this change has to stop.

Idgaf about this issue but iffin enough folks agree for whatever reason it’s not a big deal to change a national anthem, national flower, bird whatever.

We are such a young country but like to pretend we are old and steeped in tradition. Everything we have is new.

by that I'm sure you mean some berserkely livin', loony lefty liberal, nancy Pelosi lovin' historians ... they're completely full of sh*t ... f*ck them and the horse they rode in on ...

We're talking NAACP right..??

Well, I don't think we should let the British sing the Star Spangled banner anymore then... I don't care how much Olivia Newton John begs us...

Ya, but it was written well before it was cool to be against slavery...

So let me get this straight, we should take the interpretation of some F'n Brit who's country LOST the war and moreover the control of the Colonies so the WE may become The United States of America. Alrighty then.

TCBY... you truly are a treasure. I really hope that everyone here appreciates fully what is brought to any discussion. I thought there was no way anyone would take that position on this forum. No way. But you, with either your completely dulled sense of irony, or extraordinarily fine tuned sense of satire, went there.... I'm not sure whether you're completely dull or a genius... of if you wrap all the way around from one side to the other....

First... a discussion about "opinions" vs "facts"... very little of what was said was the historian's opinion. They have facts: That there were american owned slaves who escaped and fought for the british. This is a fact whether the historian is american or british. An additional fact pointed out by Mattie was that the british used press gangs for their ships during this era. Additional facts include a recent defeat of the slave battalion by the american forces somewhat contemporaneous with the writing of the lyrics of the star spangled banner. If you think these facts changes based on origination of the information then you should never be involved in any important decision ever again.

The "opinion" part comes in when the historian some of these items are related. As Mattie thinks the press gangs is related to the lyrics, and a british historian (and others) believe that the slave battalions are related. That isn't such a complex amount of information that you can't simply form your own opinion. This isn't a "I don't trust their opinion" sort of situation. In my opinion (as an american) it seems likely that the lyric, which says "slaves" applies to "slaves". That's not hard to figure. It's Matties opinion that the lyric which says "slaves" applies to "press gangs"... I don't think that's as likely, but I can't tell him definitively that he's wrong. But you, however... are very... very... wrong. Because you don't seem to understand where fact and opinion stop and begin...

Now that the boring part is over... let's get to the fun.

I am extraordinarily glad that you are of the opinion that people from a country which lost a war shouldn't have any input on anything regarding said war. I assume that you are of the same opinion regarding confederate statues? Ignoring the opinion of individuals from the former Confederate States of America will make it much easier to find consensus one what to do with these dumb statues.

Damm Brits...we hate them, until we point with pride at our European culture and heritage and the "traditions" that our first settlers brought with them from Great Britain, whenever something appears to challenge them......

It seems that the inglorious origin of our treasured National Anthem and the slave owner author of the lyrics who wrote them, was motivated in part to celebrate his delight at the demise and defeat of the runaway slaves who sided with the UK in the War of 1812. The denunciation of these words by ancestors of the slaves has caused the keepers of the heritage to double down on why it's important to keep it. The slow erosion of societal norms keeping black Americans in a position of inferiority is apparently galling to many, as an example of an attack on tradition that cloaks a need to maintain a position of superiority. This, after electing the type of man once believed un-electable, especially if one like him represented the left, because the traditional ways of politics in the US wasn't satisfactory.

BFD. Ever heard of abolitionists? Ya know who John Brown was?

White dude. Fighting with the slaves for their freedom. WTF people... everyone wants to point to the white man, when in fact it was white men who helped right the wrong. History... they still teach that shit, right?

The day I visited ft McHenry I literally had the fort to myself. I went alone on an overcast cold drizzly day and was the only one in the ft. It was creepy. Then in the visitor center there was one other person.

Standing alone in the fat was surreal. Looking out over the water where the bloody brits were attacking and imaging the bombing changed my perspective due to how small the ft and bay really are.

But I vote for changing to either Yankee Doodle or wang dang sweet putang