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151. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 4:01PM EST
Fork the chickens
152. Author: izonfireDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 5:04PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
Fork the chickens


And then eat it?
You're disgusting
153. Author: rfenstDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 5:25PM EST
My grandfather illegally walked across the border from Canada at a time when the U.S. was not welcoming Jews. All he and his immediate family just wanted the American Dream. Eventually, he applied and was granted citizenship. I know that was a "different time", but it just makes me think I wouldn't be here otherwise.
154. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 5:38PM EST
The hell's the matter with you?! Stupid! We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: drafters nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt.
155. Author: Burner02Date: Sat, 7/20/2019, 6:02PM EST
delta1 wrote:
the Tea Party still has some clout among the GOP in both houses of Congress....

imagine what woulda happened if Obama told them to "shut up or go back where they came from" and led cheers at a political speech where Obama fans chanted "send them back"



Would only have been reported by Fox.
156. Author: tailgaterDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 6:06PM EST
victor809 wrote:
Hey look. Tail didn't answer the question again.

Just tried to change the direction of the discussion.

Color me shocked.

Oh wait... If you do that then tail will tell me to go back to where I'm from ... And come back after this hypothetical non existent "shocked" place is "fixed".


From sad to pathetic.

That's a great title for the victorxxx biography.



157. Author: tailgaterDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 6:18PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
In fairness to tail he said he found the chant disgusting with no strings. Good on him.


Now where did that chant come from and why?


It is the bastid child from the presidents own words. I get it.
And it's the reason I want his twitter machine taken away.
Mentally loose wingnuts like victorxyz can't accept the fact that some people don't live, breath and embody a hate-trump 24/7 mentality.
I prefer to treat Trump's policies separate from everything else.
I can't say it enough: he's a pig and sometimes an embarrassment. I've said it numerous times. But I still get labeled an apologist because I call it like I see it. Rather than how the media tells us how to see it.
That bothers some people. Some because I differ politically. Some because they deny being a media puppet.
But as "positive" that they are Trump is racist, I am even more positive that they feel that way because that's what the main stream media tells them to feel.

When something deserves scorn, like a bunch of hillbillies from the Carolinas chanting despicable things at a Trump rally, I will call them out. That's not partisan. It's pure human decency.
But to hear the media lemmings cry about russia russia russia and now racist racist racist? That's a f*cking joke. And they don't even realize it.
158. Author: victor809Date: Sat, 7/20/2019, 7:12PM EST
Yet you still avoided answering the very simple questions.

If there were a good answer to them you could prove trumpenfurher wasn't being racist when he told them to go back to their countries...

I mean, he tells practically every politician he disagrees with to go back to their sh&thole country.... And when he was talking about how bad America was and how it was the laughing stock, everyone told him to go back to his country and fix it before coming to the US. We all do that to everyone here.

Answer the dumb questions tail. Quit tiptoing around them and claiming I just say Trump's racist because I hate him... That's a dumb argument. I say he's racist because of the things he says. If he said something non racist I'd insult him in a different way... It's not like there aren't a million things he does wrong. We don't NEED to point this out. It's simply the one that fits his behavior.

Hell, if you pay attention to the chanting, being racist is a vote winning strategy for Republicans. It's not a strategic win for the Dems to point out that he's racist.
159. Author: izonfireDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 7:43PM EST
rfenst wrote:
My grandfather illegally walked across the border from Canada at a time when the U.S. was not welcoming Jews. All he and his immediate family just wanted the American Dream. Eventually, he applied and was granted citizenship. I know that was a "different time", but it just makes me think I wouldn't be here otherwise.


Why didn't he just walk legally???
Would've solved everything...
160. Author: izonfireDate: Sat, 7/20/2019, 7:44PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
The hell's the matter with you?! Stupid! We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: drafters nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt.


Why'd you call rfenst stupid?
Just cause his granpappa?

Not nice
161. Author: tailgaterDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:07AM EST
Was victor always this needy?
162. Author: tailgaterDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:20AM EST
victor809 wrote:
Yet you still avoided answering the very simple questions.

If there were a good answer to them you could prove trumpenfurher wasn't being racist when he told them to go back to their countries...

I mean, he tells practically every politician he disagrees with to go back to their sh&thole country.... And when he was talking about how bad America was and how it was the laughing stock, everyone told him to go back to his country and fix it before coming to the US. We all do that to everyone here.

Answer the dumb questions tail. Quit tiptoing around them and claiming I just say Trump's racist because I hate him... That's a dumb argument. I say he's racist because of the things he says. If he said something non racist I'd insult him in a different way... It's not like there aren't a million things he does wrong. We don't NEED to point this out. It's simply the one that fits his behavior.

Hell, if you pay attention to the chanting, being racist is a vote winning strategy for Republicans. It's not a strategic win for the Dems to point out that he's racist.




I bought a truck last year.
The sales manager was trying to screw me on my trade. The dealership offered a $1500 incentive on trades. He tried to include it in the trade value. He wanted to give me $5000 total. I told him the trade was worth $5000 minimum. He said "right".
I said "No. That would be $5000 PLUS the $1500 incentive.
He said "Yes. We're giving you $1500 incentive. $5000 total."
This went back and forth several times.
I finally said "Do you understand English?"

He appeared to be of Indian decent (although with zero accent). He stepped back and said "what does that mean?".

Now, I understand how it may have looked to some. It's a funny story and I turned his angst around with "how dare you" etc. But i get the optics.

When retelling the story to my kids, my son immediately said "you say that to us all the time".

In case you're wondering, my kids are white.


So it's easy to see racism when you WANT to. And you want to because you hate Trump. And you lose your ability to reason when discussing him. We all see it. Even those that agree with you.
I don't like the man. But I agree with most of his policy ideas while disliking his methods.
But to you I'm an apologist.
Because I don't hate Trump as much as you, you call me an apologist.
Think about that. Because it's a microcosm of how you're handling every subject involving him.

163. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:53AM EST
Deporting illegal aliens is not racist. It is the law. If you dontvlike the law work to change it. Though I will fight you on this tooth and nail.
164. Author: victor809Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 10:40AM EST
Hey look who didn't answer the questions again....

More deflection...
More poorly fit analogies...
No answers to the questions though.

Don't care about any of the crap you said tail.
165. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:08AM EST
But if you kept going back to him asking the same question and encouraging others to do so you would be moving away from an inadvertent comment, and towards intentional racism yourself or stoking/encouraging others to be racist at a minimum. Especially knowing not only does he take it that way but many of the people you encourage to do it do too. You could claim to be not racist but you clearly would be.

You didn’t mean it originally in a racist way. But that does not absolve you if you continue after knowing how it is taken by both sides.

As for Trump he knows exactly what he is doing and has once again embraced the send her back crap. He’s playing both sides and he’s smart about it. It’s disgusting. I don’t know if he is racist (I’ve come to the conclusion he is and always has been) but he’s sure using it as a tool as evidenced by a good chunk of his followers.

And no I do not believe the only ones with the superpower of not being brainwashed by the media are the people that believe as I do. That would be incredibly blind and arrogant. I also don’t believe every time you criticize a minority it’s racist. That’s a non starter and deflection to me.
166. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:09AM EST
victor809 wrote:


1 - What "country who's government is a complete and total catastrophe" is AOC from? Prolly Mexico...

Maybe Cuba or Venezuela... She's got a pretty thick accent so for sure not America...
2 - What country does trump want her to go back to "fix"?

Whatever sh*thole she wants to go to... She's a communist sympathizing moron who hates our country...

3 - What country is Ayanna Pressley from?

No idea... Graceland?

4 - What country does trump want her to go back to "fix"?

Whatever sh*thole she wants to go to... No idea who she is and trump probably doesn't either...

5 - What "country who's government is a complete and total catastrophe" is Rashida Tlaib from?

Muslimville USA...

6 - What country does trump want her to go back to "fix"?

Again, doesn't matter as long as it's not here...

6a - What country does omar come from?

Somalia... It's a sh*thole and she should fall on American dirt every day and kiss it in thanks that she's here instead of criticizing everything we stand for...

7 - Identify a single quote in modern history where anyone has told a white person to "go back and fix the totally broken and crime infested places where you came from".... anywhere...

It was called the revolutionary war, bitch! And we said it loud and proud!

167. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:12AM EST
I read your answers and heard a Fred Rogers combined with church lady voice
168. Author: ZRX1200Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:16AM EST
^ that’s hot...
169. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:17AM EST
Ya I am...
170. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:17AM EST
I tossed one
171. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:17AM EST
Won't you get the **** out of my country, neighbor?
172. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:20AM EST
Well isn’t that special.
173. Author: ZRX1200Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:21AM EST
Stop, I can only get so hard...
174. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 11:26AM EST
Not true. There always is a next level... even if it means the skin splits.
175. Author: Phil222Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 12:23PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
As for Trump he knows exactly what he is doing and has once again embraced the send her back crap. He’s playing both sides and he’s smart about it.

Trump proposed a 'white vs black contestants' season of 'The Apprentice' in a recently resurfaced recording
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-proposed-white-vs-black-contestants-for-the-apprentice-2019-7
176. Author: izonfireDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 12:32PM EST
Hope you’re satisfied
177. Author: DrafterXDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 12:41PM EST
Like a Family Fued episode..?? Huh
178. Author: Phil222Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 12:48PM EST
I think some would argue that being able to publicly criticize one's leaders and voice opinions on the role of the government is exactly what makes America great and separates us from all of the chitholes around the world...maybe telling these people to leave the country for doing just that is what should be considered un-American.
179. Author: Phil222Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 12:51PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
Like a Family Fued episode..?? Huh

Applause
180. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 2:13PM EST
Phil222 wrote:
I think some would argue that being able to publicly criticize one's leaders and voice opinions on the role of the government is exactly what makes America great and separates us from all of the chitholes around the world...maybe telling these people to leave the country for doing just that is what should be considered un-American.

Or maybe telling someone they can't tell someone to leave the country should be considered unAmerican... Why you wanna censor the voice of the highest office in the land?
181. Author: Phil222Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 2:30PM EST
I never stated he should be censored. I think we’re in agreement on this issue. I wouldn’t want to censor anyone’s speech, and especially not his. It’s his best attribute.
182. Author: frankj1Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:04PM EST
Phil222 wrote:
I think some would argue that being able to publicly criticize one's leaders and voice opinions on the role of the government is exactly what makes America great and separates us from all of the chitholes around the world...maybe telling these people to leave the country for doing just that is what should be considered un-American.

so, the plan is really to Take America's Greatness Away by forcing loyalty oaths and stuff, like with Comey?

gotta get me a TAGA hat.

Don't even think of questioning me.
183. Author: teedubbyaDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:10PM EST
I do t want to censor anyone. I want them to be heard loud and clear and otherwise decent folks to act accordingly. Make America Decent Again.
184. Author: frankj1Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:22PM EST
yup.
when forced underground their ugliness can take roots without noise.
I've proposed for years giving Nazis and the like their own cable networks...keep them in the light, takes away the comfort they count on when we nap.

Never Again has meaning.
185. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 8:38PM EST
Agree with you completely Frank...

I think the shadows are packed with ignorant and sometimes stupid people who hold a loose grip on poorly thought out opinions and ideologies...

sometimes for no other reason than that's what their daddy taught them...

and often times the only thing determining whether that grip loosens or tightens is the light of rational conversation...

And sometimes that means "having dinner with a Nazi"...
186. Author: izonfireDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 9:08PM EST
opelmanta1900 wrote:
Agree with you completely Frank...

I think the shadows are packed with ignorant and sometimes stupid people who hold a loose grip on poorly thought out opinions and ideologies...

sometimes for no other reason than that's what their daddy taught them...

and often times the only thing determining whether that grip loosens or tightens is the light of rational conversation...

And sometimes that means "having dinner with a Nazi"...


Am I sensing a theme night coming up in the near future???
187. Author: frankj1Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 9:17PM EST
there's some fine German food...
188. Author: izonfireDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 9:41PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
there's some fine German food...


Or we could just choose to completely trash their heritage and culture...
189. Author: frankj1Date: Sun, 7/21/2019, 9:51PM EST
save the food.
190. Author: izonfireDate: Sun, 7/21/2019, 9:55PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
save the food.


Me loves some sauerbraten. That’s for Oktoberfest week
191. Author: tailgaterDate: Mon, 7/22/2019, 9:33AM EST
teedubbya wrote:
But if you kept going back to him asking the same question and encouraging others to do so you would be moving away from an inadvertent comment, and towards intentional racism yourself or stoking/encouraging others to be racist at a minimum. Especially knowing not only does he take it that way but many of the people you encourage to do it do too. You could claim to be not racist but you clearly would be.

You didn’t mean it originally in a racist way. But that does not absolve you if you continue after knowing how it is taken by both sides.



This is what's wrong with the topic of racism.
If I said it with no malice and without a hint of racism to begin with, then that's what it is: NOT racist.

I don't give two rats azzes how someone perceives it. It wasn't racist when I said it. It's not racist when a weak minded snowflake tries to redefine it.

192. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Mon, 7/22/2019, 9:37AM EST
What are you saying, people who don't share values can still share space and sometimes opinions? But, but, how are we gonna know who to punch if we don't get to assume everyone standing next to a Nazi is a Nazi?
193. Author: DrafterXDate: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:01AM EST
The MAGA hat... only Nazis wear them... or so i heard... Mellow
194. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:03AM EST
What about that girl wearing the make bitcoin great again hat that got punched by those liberals? Was she a Nazi?
195. Author: DrafterXDate: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:12AM EST
Prolly.... Mellow
196. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:26AM EST
Oh...

What about that old dude in Portland who got beat up by the Antifa mob - in view of police - because he didn't want to follow the mobs traffic orders? Nazi?
197. Author: victor809Date: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:28AM EST
opelmanta1900 wrote:
Oh...

What about that old dude in Portland who got beat up by the Antifa mob - in view of police - because he didn't want to follow the mobs traffic orders? Nazi?


prolly

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elderly-man-beaten-in-portland/
198. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:28AM EST
And Andy Ngo, the controversial Vietnamese journalist who was savagely beaten by the Antifa mob? Vietnamese Nazi?
199. Author: opelmanta1900Date: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:31AM EST
victor809 wrote:
prolly

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elderly-man-beaten-in-portland/

You have to stop linking to snopes... I've seen the video... The version of the story you linked to is a version no one is telling... Snopes mixes in what they know to be false narratives so they can classify a story as partly false... I'll literally never follow another snopes link again...

Fact: an Antifa mob tried forcing an elderly driver to drive in a certain direction... He didn't want to.... When he got out and confronted them, your Nazi fighting heroes savagely beat the old man...
200. Author: DrafterXDate: Mon, 7/22/2019, 10:31AM EST
Those are the worst kind... Mellow
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