The DC government yesterday assembled some weird ass collection of armed "troops" without any badges, no identifying markings and no personal identification.

Without any identification, there was no accountability for these troops.

I thought this sort of overstep was the reason the 2nd Amendment People were arming themselves?

I'm kinda surprised they didn't all head over to DC to protest this weird government activity..... Assembling an unidentifiable, un-named, unaccountable, armed force to restrict the people's 1st amendment rights to protest?


And not a peep from everyone who said that's why they needed all the guns.

No one in their right mind would bet against federal officers and military.

I mean... If you're resisting government overstep, but obeying a "no guns in DC" rule... You're really not doing a great job at resistance.

It is not real resistance. It is more just play acting resistance. ...and then they whine because of tear gas and a photo ops for Trump.

just a minit...Z will be along shortly....


lmao

those the same guys who armed themselves and stormed a state government capitol building to protest being told to stay inside to avoid getting sick? ...the guns were their way of saying they were prepared to fight a tyrannical govt. and die for their Constitutional rights, especially the 2nd Amendment

then the govt. says that it will use overwhelming military force to take away Americans' First Amendment right and dominate the battlespaces in our cities?

so these guys go to the nation's capitol to.............defend and fight for their rights?


Nope...to stand side by side with that govt in the fight to take away other American's Constitutional rights...

Actually to use the same strange logic some in here used about masks the armed protestors protesting stay at home are now justifying gassing folks for ignoring a stay at home order (curfew). (And yes I know it’s not the same folks. Not a Singular Venn diagram etc.. just making the same stupid argument some thought was smart)

true, they prolly wouldn't go...I knew they were not the same exact dudes...just fellow travelers...

Because it’s viewed as a black issue and a non issue by some. The Anti mask issue is definitely more important.

So you wanted people on cigarbid who have argued for 2nd amendment rights to fly to DC to defend people who voted away their rights? Maybe they had more important things to do like mow the yard or something.

By the way, I don’t think you saw any unidentified armed troops. Maybe you just didn’t know how to identify them. The don’t necessarily have ID badges like they’re at a convention not is it some sort of requirement.

That’s usually par for the course. I’m not sure too many were out getting tear gassed either.

I did not say they were going to defend people who voted away their rights (not an accurate statement btw, but we'll ignore it for now.)

I clearly (although I understand if you have trouble following... your lightheadedness is likely from hunger, not being able to make it to a restaurant and such) stated that they should be fighting a government which is overstepping its bounds. That is not the same as defending protesters. I don't care where they stand on the protester's politics.

And yes, they have no uniform, are wearing no badges or insignia for the public to identify them with. They are literally no different from you or I standing on a street corner with a weapon telling people they can't walk past us.

It's real interesting.

The one where the journalist got shoved around a little? That seems par for the course these days.

Yes, I’m probably just really hungry. Now that I can so clearly see that you just wanted them to defend a government overstepping it’s bounds, just how exactly did the government overstep it’s bounds?

With regards to these mysterious no uniform or ID troops, is that some sort of requirement they violated or were they just extra scary looking?

****, ok that was automatically done not Shanna.

You think there is a law saying they need a convention center ID badge around their neck so you can see it if they’re carrying a gun? You don’t have that right!

that has been my observation, too Spey...why do we automatically respond to mass demonstrations by deploying an over-whelming militaristic police presence...

a decade or so ago, police tactics in response to First Amendment protests were recalibrated...remember the Occupy Wall Street Movement? police and govt. officials actually met with leaders of the demonstration to set up parameters...for these reasons: to prevent confrontations, disruptions of business, violence, and destruction of property...this strategy was applauded world wide as a step forward, viewed widely as progress in community/police relations...most of the demonstrators then were white...

what changed?

Black Lives Matter?

but there is an awful lot of diversity in todays' demonstrations...in some places the majority of marchers are white...and yet the massive police response in riot gear...like law enforcement is saying "go ahead, protest, use your First Amendment right but we don't trust all of you"

seems that a reasonable reaction would be to provide a minimal visible police presence to observe the demonstrators, while deploying squads of rapid response and arrest teams that can be held at various staging areas nearby to react when reports are made of looting and property destruction...those jurisdictions with helicopters should use them to monitor the "peace" of the crowd and spot vandals

as Drafter would say...that would be gay

Sounds like you're just ok with rolling over and letting the government do what they think is best for you...

Did you just call me a Democrat?

Sound like you just found out you’re not nearly as free as you thought you were and there’s nothing you can or are willing to do about it.

Victor, they just weren't ready. Next time they will have an official Sturmabteilung emblem.

Pretty limp wristed troll job Vic.

Not even worth the time.

so not a well regulated militia?
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Let me tell ya, it's regulated. If it wasn't I'd have a rocket launcher by now.

Also, just because firearm training doesn't reach the level of being able to defeat the worlds military super power doesn't mean that we the people don't have any training. You know, "the right of the people shall not be infringed." Doesn't say must be Green Beret level.

They sent troops late in the war, but I thought the Colonists received guns, ammo, cannons etc from the French early on. I could be wrong though.

I think their arrival was about when Cornwallace surrendered and important in his surrender. But since COVID got me I am not quite sure.