I don’t like losers I like winners. Hero’s don’t get captured or surrender. Besides I heard when Jefferson Davis was captured he was dressed like a chick and his wife was more of a man than he was. Replace every one of those statues with one of General Sherman and one of good ol U.S. Grant. Both winners worthy of celebrating.

Drafter my one exception is you. You are a love able loser

but how are we going erase and re-write history if we create a new holiday..?? What will the greeting cards say..?? do we have to buy presents and stuff..?

just playing along...

anybody remember the movie "Trading Places"?

slavery and welfare are two different things...

one applied only to one race...

the other is multi-racial...very diverse... it's puzzling to me that it's considered a black problem...

but I get your resentment for tax-payer dollars going to people looking for a handout, when they can work...

I was unaware that the only slaves in the history of mankind were the blacks in the USA. I guess history does need a desperate rewrite.

Slavery is not abolished by any stretch of the imagination in this country.

and the blessing over the holiday meals is always..."we were slaves, now we're free, let's eat"















Amen

40 acres of frozen tundra and badger will have to suffice

Pretty sure we’re going with the ultra-gay one...

try one block on a pyramid and get back to me.

Stay on topic, this is a black thing. If you're not black, you have no input. A mile in their shoes and stuff even though none of them were ever slaves, and nobody here has ever owned a slave.

(Gimps in your basement don't count)

Since we are talking about bias and discrimination here is one that is never addressed or brought up. It effects 10% of the population and folks have to deal with this bias every day throughout history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_against_left-handed_people

didn't snopes it but I bet they are more likely to not get married

Like ya just don't care!!!

https://youtu.be/zS9ZSkFwTM4

Hey Drafter, why don't you look up what Juneteenth is actually about? Then you can have an accurate, uh, less inaccurate viewpoint.

Ever since Tailgater mentioned it, whenever I read things like this from Victor all I hear is Cliff Clavin

Here's what I don't understand about Juneteenth. It originally only applied to slaves in Texas.

IMO: If a new holiday is going to be created it should be on December 18th which would be the date that the Thirteenth Amendment was adopted freeing all of the slaves in the US.

Here's some links with more details:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation - Confederate States Only - January 1, 1863
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth - Texas only - June 19, 1865
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution - Everywhere - December 18, 1865

I thought texas was the last state to do so thus...... The amendment was sort of after the fact no?

We have holidays for those?

Anything is better than that new fake Hallmark card invention called "GRANDPARENTS DAY"...

WHAT A JOKE...

IF IT WASNT A HOLIDAY BY 1960...

I DOES NOT EXIST IN MY BOOK OF REAL HOLIDAYS.

yeah...I suppose that white nationalists could demand that we take down all of the WWII memorials, since they are offensive from their perspective...

for cash, I'll knock off 10%.


I think Bucky missed this set up, and I got here late...

Anyway, years ago I had heard that contrary to the Book of Exodus, there are no surviving Egypian records of the Hebrews in Egypt

haven't personally spoken with one person wanting that Lincoln statue in Post Office Square removed, but it wasn't Lincoln that was the issue from what I have heard...it's the newly freed slave on all fours in front of him. Truly not sure how I'd have felt about that if my peoples were depicted that way and obviously that thought never occurred to me all the years I've lived near Boston.
I may have the story wrong though.

I don't think your first sentence presents the opposition accurately to several of the memorials either.

But I can say with some certainty that 10K signatures denying the Holocaust is well below the over/under in Vegas.

I’m guessing there would be much less racism if there was much less segregationism. For sure every action there is an .....

For the record I don't want Mt Rushmore destroyed... it was just an example of how ridiculous I think removing statues is.. if it happens tho we should have a national holiday celebrating the destruction of Mt Rushmore so everyone remembers what it represents... .