Took it. Nothing bad happened. Not my favorite experiment with drugs. Prolly won't do again

I don't see a "meh" option above

People should get medical advice from their doctors, not from the government.

Under a new law in California, doctors that give ‘Rona advice that is contrary to “contemporary scientific consensus” can lose their medical license. The “contemporary scientific consensus“ is determined by the government through the Medical Board of California.

Sooooo….people are required by the government to get medical advice that is approved by the government.

I think Fauci said leeching could help with long Covid symptoms.

Some studies indicate a possible link to anemic side effects in very rare cases

I doubt people will actually admit they have reservations or regrets now. It'd be like saying... "Yeah, they got me... I was duped."

It's been 2+ years. Where are the short term studies on the safety and efficacy?

Didn't get the shot(s). Two in my household got the shots along with the boosters and they still caught the Rona. I didn't catch it (as far as I know).

I remember being a bit lethargic for about a week during that time but that's about it. Working at Wally World among the masses all through the pandemic and having two in my household catching it, it'd be hard to believe that I have not been exposed to it. Maybe I did and my body's defenses were able to fight it off naturally (shrug?).

Might just be anecdotal but those are the facts of my situation. I've been skeptical of all the COVID fear factor and the miracle cure vaccine stuff all along. My position and thoughts on this has been pretty clear and I haven't seen anything warrants a change in that position. I think it's been a bastardization of real science with propaganda, scare tactics along with the government and media driving it rather than real science.

Those that pumped themselves up as "experts" on the topic and bashed those that didn't drink the Kool-Aid have quietly slipped away out of the limelight. Maybe just too afraid to accept and admit that they were wrong.

Got the shots and the boosters, all recommended by my Dr. No issues or side affects i am aware of. I did get the virus at the end of this past summer but it wasn't any worse then the flu (which i also take the jab for annually). was the effect of the virus less because i was vaccinated? Maybe... Maybe not... did it take me over 2 years to catch it as far as i know because of masks and vaccines? Maybe... Maybe not... no regrets either way.

I didn't believe Fauci but when Trump went on TV and said to get the shots I ran right out and got three.

I didn't fall for it and nobody tried to force the jabs on me. I remembered these famous words by George Carlin “The government doesn’t lie, it engages in disinformation.“ and “I don’t believe anything the government tells me.“

Took the advice of my doctor. doc brother and my two doc neighbors (Infectious Disease and Immunology/Allergy) and am waiting two more weeks for the latest vaccine. I trust their advice. Certainly, there are risks to way. I have zero regrets.

My doctor (at the time) said the same... get it. But I believe doctors were given marching orders and followed them out of fear of being stripped of their licenses.

Saw my new doc today... he offered both the covid shot and the flu shot. Nope and Nope.

To each his own.

The greater good of the socialist experiment outweighed the opinions of the individual.

For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm.

Those are complex and difficult questions that I am not qualified to answer.
And you sir, are not qualified to ask.

LOL!

Say what?

I'm a free thinker, buddy... those were my original thoughts, too. How is anyone not qualified to ask a question? Especially of our Government?

That comment is proof that you, sir, are a lemming. Follow the herd to that cliff, brotha!

And the lies the man told...to the public and to Congress. I believe that to be the worst of all.

He needs to go. Fired and stripped of all benefits. Rotting in a prison cell. He funded the research. Moved it to other nations to get it all away from the eyes and ears of agencies that would rip it down. Some of those nations don't value the sanctity of human life. They were paid to create doomsday viruses by using Gain of Function to do it. Creating a weapon virus. Notice nobody is asking the "For Who?" of "For What?" or even the "Why?" questions?

The worst set of lies (and a reason at the beginning I KNEW this was a sham!) was his telling everyone masks were worthless with Covid. He was correct then. The boxes on them even said "Not For Medical Use"! Couldn't help himself though because the Fear Porn had to be ramped up to Orgy mode. You need to wear a mask. At all times then. In your own house even. How could anyone with a rational thinking brain believe this guy based on that? Then all the other absurdities that followed. Wear one mask. Wear 2 masks. Wear 3 masks. Have to carry a vaccine card to go into a restaurant? Wear a mask in the joint, but when you sit down they can come off. Like Covid was some thick gooey sticky ozone cloud that hovered at 4' 11" to 7'. All of the pics drifting on the interwebs of people coping with Covid in every day situations. People shopping in wetsuits and scuba tanks, gas masks and shower curtains, my personal fave was the guy with the horse mask and the Hazmat suit. I would die laughing at these until they popped up in the real world. It was then I knew the Psy Ops psychosis was real and people's minds were now "infected". It got so bad that they closed down schools. We were told children were immune to it. Then when they were allowed to come back to school they had to wear masks. Children. Our government went after children. All at Pope Fauci's direction. He never has backed off either. Still holding on to what he did just like the man I compared him to here on this site. Dr. Josef "Angel of Death" Mengele. The Nazi scientist that dared experiment on humans. Saw them as some commodity to be used and then sent to the gas chambers when the Party had extracted all usefulness from them. Nevermind that fact that this same demented man tried and failed to run the AIDS pandemic as well! Give him another turn at bat. He'll get a hit and people will cheer.

There were the infected people here too. "You're going to kill grandma!", "Follow the Science", "I've seen the Data", "If you knew what I know", "LOL", "I work in that field and I know" and the personal stories exaggerated for maximum effect on anyone unwilling to do any type of research on their own. Clinging on to their yarn because they were eating at the table of a Free Press that was spoon feeding them their daily dose of Panic. I even stated on here (I can't remember the thread) that I fully understand how an unwilling society complied with a guy like Hitler and his party of monsters. It was like a veil shrouded them from common sense and entitled them to some elevated sense of importance at the same time. A Free Press that gave us daily briefings and death tolls like something straight out of "1984". A dark and dank place where government is all and controls all. A Free Press that forgot what investigative journalism was because they were jockeying for position at the feet of the CDC, NIH, WHO and most importantly Pope Fauci. They wanted the blessings bestowed upon them because they were the Party faithful, doing the Party's deeds. To this day, they still act and believe they were right and that's why the "We're Sorry" stories tried to pop up. Nobody was buying it though. Nobody. The carnage they created is still too much and look at them go for the "prize" once again. California counties thinking of mandating masks again. I'm sure they'll get their way too. Why? The beatdown, abused and psychophants turned around in the past election and didn't rebuke the party for their misgivings, crimes and deeds. They voted them back in. They validated what they did. To them even. That's how damaged people are.

Mandating vaccines? We all knew it was a crime. The addled that still want to call the Covid shots a "vaccine"? Still will tell you they work and that they took it and would again. It's sad really. It's sad because the world we now live in...The Emperor isn't wearing any clothes, and the emperor is Hitler. Everyone is still seeing the magnificent clothes and telling anyone listening how grand they are. All the while some are waking up. Seeing them for what they are. Looking around at the street preachers for Fauci with a "WTF!" look on their faces. At the Nuremberg trials they convicted people of war crimes and crimes against Humanity. This is that same moment and some want to live still in their world.

So, I was raised and trained to be a condescending a-hole. But I try not to be. We all have goals.

Not to argue any one of these particular facts, but what conclusion are you drawing?
A world wide conspiracy?
To what end?

Now I am not a epidemiologist. But enough family and friends were sick and/or in the hospital from COVID to know there is such a thing. We almost lost our daughter-in-law to Covid. And I have no real reason to doubt the vaccines.

You're going to hate this then. Another linked story with truth you don't want to know.





News has come out regarding the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, courtesy of Judicial Watch. The watchdog group announced yesterday that it had obtained records from a FOIA lawsuit against the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease. The entities had failed to respond to a FOIA request filed in June of 2021 regarding “the biodistribution studies and related data for the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson& Johnson COVID vaccines.”

Judicial Watch said that the records contained information…

…regarding data Moderna submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on its mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, which indicate a “statistically significant” number of rats were born with skeletal deformations after their mothers were injected with the vaccine. The documents also reveal Moderna elected not to conduct a number of standard pharmacological studies on the laboratory test animals.

Moderna submitted a Nonclinical Overview to the FDA to have its vaccine approved. Included in that overview was information that rats born to mothers that had been given the mRNA vaccine had skeletal abnormalities that included conditions such as “rib nodules” and “wavy ribs.” Moderna said the conditions were not considered “adverse.”

Whether or not this is significant for pregnant mothers who took the jab more than likely remains to be seen. In October of this year, the CDC said that COVID-19 vaccines were recommended for people six months and older, including pregnant and nursing mothers and women who are trying to become pregnant. According to the agency, getting COVID-19 could result in complications that could affect pregnancy and a baby’s development.

The point is that Moderna should have told us about the issue with the bone problems in the rats, and the FDA and CDC certainly should have told us. I believe that is called allowing people to make informed decisions about their bodies. And last I checked, that was a very important issue for many.

During the pandemic, the public was urged again and again to get their vaccines, boosters, and third boosters. Even today, we are still being told to get yet another booster. It has even been billed as an important part of our holiday preparations. As I mentioned in another piece, my wife is still being asked how soon the next generation of jabs will be released.

Fortune recently featured an article that talked about a study in the American Journal of Medicine. The upshot of the Canadian study is this: people who opted out of the jab were 72% more likely to get into an auto accident. The theory is that such people distrust their governments. This, in turn, might also mean that they will ignore basic traffic safety rules. The authors of the paper went so far as to suggest that doctors talk with unvaccinated patients about safe driving and that insurance companies take vaccination status into account when it comes to issuing or renewing policies.

Earlier in December, the website News@Northeasten ran a piece highlighting a study by Northeastern physics professor Mauricio Santillana. Santillana, who specializes in epidemiology, worked with a team of researchers who tracked deaths from COVID-19 during the initial year of the pandemic. In a nutshell, the group found…

…that deaths spiked in well-connected, Democrat-heavy cities early in 2020, but that by the first pandemic winter, deaths were about three times higher in Republican-leaning—and specifically Trump-leaning—areas of the country.

So, as Gavin Newsom’s administration once said, “Vax for The Win.” Maybe. On the other hand, you could vax for myocarditis and children with bone deformities. But those details aren’t important. Line up, citizen. Get your shot, preserve your credit score, and keep your insurance rates low. Never mind those pesky rats. It’ll all work out. You have Biden’s and Fauci’s word on it.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/12/14/judicial-watch-releases-new-information-on-the-moderna-vaccine-n1653605


I don't profess to hold a doctorate, but I'm not a moron.

Nothing deters LEFTY from spreading the BIG LIE.
The truth be damned...FULL SPEED AHEAD!

Biden Covid Czar Claims Getting Updated Vaccine Will Prevent Nearly All Covid Deaths – But Data Proves Otherwise

By Jim Hoft
Published December 15, 2022 at 3:00pm

I just had a good friend get Covid and was in the hospital for 4 weeks, he was unvaccinated. I have had 2 jabs and two boosters at the recommendation of my Doctor and other then the first shot, no side effects.

My thoughts in the beginning were that I did not believe everything the government was telling me. Considering that the testing period was so short, I figured that the jab did not kill any way near what Covid was doing so it was worth the gamble. I have had the Rona twice and both times it was like having a mild cold. So I feel for me, getting the jab was a good choice as I was never in the hospital from the Rona.

While my decision was based on personal reasons, I was always against the jab being forced on people, period.

I don't complain about the jabs I didn't get. I'm critical of the government because of the obvious and constant LIES they tell me. We've reached a point in time in society where it is obvious that it is in decline.

THIS.

And the fact that people I love were duped and got the jab. I'm worried about their long term well-being. I'm sure that's very easy to understand, no?

The FDA allowed an accelerated test cycle because of a…..”pandemic”.
Read: “in order to save lives”.

What you you have done?
Hold a 5-10 year trial?

Hell, why do you care? You don’t believe in vaccines anyway.

And don’t say it’s because you care about your fellow man - we crossed that bridge right here in river city.

Anyone who questions why you're shoveling 6in of snow in the middle of a snowstorm hasn't shoveled 16in of snow at the end of a snowstorm