Here's a great example of liberal media bias...
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/6/7/143715 

""""Spiney, what about the New York Times and their recently publicized problems? Do you think they had an agenda? """

Which recent problems? Been a lot of sloppy journalism there and at most major outlets lately.

"""Here's a great example of liberal media bias...
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/6/7/143715  """


Here's a rebuttal.......

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/13/iraq/main549143.shtml 

and

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030607_762.html 

and

http://www.msnbc.com/news/923487.asp 

and

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-womuse273302946may27,0,4184065.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines 

and

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2893087 

and

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_iraqgold.html 

and the New York Times did report it on June 8th. (I am not interested in signing up with them to get you the exact link but if you follow the links from here...

http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?query=vault+treasures&date=past30days 

you can see for yourself.

(I would'nt put too much faith in that Newsmax site. They have a habit of stretching the truth and counting on their readers not to cross check their facts.)

What are we crying over?

The bulk of major media outlets are very Liberal in their viewpoints. Only talk radio is predominantly Conservative, and the Libs are losing sleep over it.

The funny thing is, talk radio is perhaps the least important "news" media, because it is based almost entirely on opinions. Rush and Company don't read the news, they interpret it. Very different from what my local paper and/or TV newscast is supposed to do.

"""The bulk of major media outlets are very Liberal in their viewpoints. Only talk radio is predominantly Conservative, and the Libs are losing sleep over it. """

Thats odd, I watch/listen to both and though I rarely hear the alleged liberal outlets bemoan the conservative talk radio stations, I hear the talk radio host loudly complain about the "liberal media" on a daily basis.

Just my experiance.

Spiny, I guess you don't listen to liberal talk show hosts. Me neither. Except Alan Colmes. For some weird reason I kind of like his radio show, even though I seldom agree with him. Not on TV though, with that cockeye of his.

Very interesting... I can watch the evening news on any one of the major outlets, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc... And see liberal bias. Spiney, you and others don't. The reason is because I am basically conservative. You are basically liberal. I see opinion and spin that makes me mad!! You see what you believe is impartial coverage of whatever the story of the day is. I'll never convince you that it's bias because of your point of view. Plain and simple.

Here’s a test, Spiney, do you think Fox News has a conservative bias?

Also Spiny, I appreciate your researching web searches disputing my claims. The post was from newsmax in reference to this story. My actual claim was in reference to the 6:30 and 7:00 evening news where they lead with their story of the lost treasures and the blame of the American military/leadership. I “watched this.” They "lead" with it. Did you watch where they "lead" with their retraction? Did they even cover it on their evening news? Or was it simply on the web page? I'm curious, how many people watch the evening news, vs. read the pages you posted as rebuttals?

Robby,

You are correct.

I misunderstood your point. IE; they lead with a story but the corection/retraction is not a lead or even treated as a prominant story. Even though I did not see the original story, I have no doubt that a correction was either downplayed or ignored.( I see all media do this. From my hometown paper to the major networks. They can't admit to being wrong. ( I suspect they feel that their audiance will loose faith in the verasity of future stories.) I don't however think this is limited to the "liberal" media. The "conservative" media does it as well. Every time Limbaugh gets busted for some of the BS he puts out as facts, ("I'm not making this up folks!") he either ignores it or, (my favorite) calls it "infotainment". IMHO, they all lack credability. No matter who does it, it's piss poor journalism and a disservice to the public.
I believe that there are liberals in the media. I believe that there are conservatives in the media. I just don't see this "liberal media" thing being as pervasive as it's made out to be.

and yes, I do think FOX is basically conservative in their coverage.

Eleltea,

Not much oppurtunity to listin to liberal talk radio. Not much out there. Not in the car for the Colmes show.
On the conservative side, I get Hannity on my way home. When I want a big laugh, I switch over to Savage. I like Mark Davis for the most part. (Conservative without the SHRILL factor.) I wish I could get Hightower but sadly his show isn't available in the DFW market.

Spiny Norman

"I do think FOX is basically conservative"

no kidding, i thought they are middle of the road leaning left. i can't believe you think they are conservative, why hannity alone is so far to the left he's come around to the right and only looks conservative. he and o'o'o'reilly make me proud to be a liberal too.

many's the nights the three of us sat at the malted shop until they close at 10:00pm, discussing the need for another program to help the poor and whether hilary should wait for 2008 or run now while the iron is hot.

You liberal leftist make me laugh. You cry because one major TV news outlet (Fox) views news objectively, and you have the other outlets sewed up such as CNN, MSNBC and the major net works.

Thank God for Fox news, Fair and Balanced!

Charlie

Let's face it, Foxnews is conservative.
It's not right-wing freak type of conservative, but it does lean heavily towards the right.
The "Fair and Balanced" is a catch phrase.
It is Fair, because they make no bones about their opinions. It's Balanced when you compare it to ALL the other major "news" networks combined.

If you want Liberal talk radio (outside of Boston) you need look no further than NPR.

I happen to like Allen Colmes. I obviously disagree with him on most every issue, but he is level-headed and makes a strong case for each of his points. It's refreshing to see an admitted liberal make his points based on information rather than a "feel good" mentality.

lol@rick

IMO, all media is biased in one way or another and sometimes swings from side to side. Rick, if 99% of the media is to the right of you, you are too far left and Charlie, if 99% of the media is to the left of you, you are too far right. Again, this is just my opinion.

Following the lead of Rick's analysis of Fox and Hannity, I must decry the brutal treatment of Hilary this week by Larry King, Katy Couric, and Baba Wawa of the usually neutral NBC, ABC, and CNN. It took a lot of guts for Hil to face those tough, probing questions. Proof positive of the right-wing nature of the major media sources.

That's the point I was making!! It all depends on the prism through which you view "your reality". If you're basically more liberal, you'll see ABC, NBC, CBS as "centrist" and FOX as way right. If you're basically conservative, you'll see Fox as centrist and those other outlets as very liberal. It's a question of perspective more so than anything else in my opinion. It's like a Roshorack (sp) test. Different people see different things in the same picture...

barryneedleman

excellent observation. unlike charlie, i will give it some serious thought.

Robby

i always see something pornographic.

question, from a conservative point of view, what tv station is to the right of fox?