limoric
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:59:00 PM

plabonte - Is not showing a woman's face in public a RELIGIOUS custom or is it a CULTURAL custom?

Religious man. If it were cultural the American born Muslim girl would have been wearing Gap.

rastusmcnair
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:01:00 PM
Hey Wait!!! Does this mean when I'm in N.Y. I can have a smoke in a bar if it's part of My religous beliefs? Can You feel the POWER! Put Your hands on the RADIO! First Church of the Gooey Death and Discount House of Cigars! Send Us Your money while You're alive - It'll be there in Heaven When You arrive! Halleluyah! Amen!
sketcha
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:07:00 PM
Testify!
limoric
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:13:00 PM

sketcha - I thought there were a few religions off your decription in Utah. hehe

We should start a Brother of the Leaf religion, register it and then start a holy war.

The Native's in Canada are self governing - They have their own laws and Justice System within the reserve. Most are protected by Native rights off the reserve, but fall into the Canadian Justice system.

Also posession of Pot in Canada is legal under 30 grams. I don't do it, but power to those who want to make the choice.

Spiny Norman
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:30:00 PM
"""there is one case I can think of where I think religeon should supercede the govt. Native Americans should be allowed to take Paote. It's been part of their customs for millenia. I know that they were conquered and as such must bow to the U.S., but the govt. doesn't have to keep treating them like ****. Why should we care if they get high and go on vision quests? They're not hurting anyone. """

Actually, the vast majority if Native Americans whe adhere to the Peyote Cult are Christian. Does this mean the US Govt. is persacuting Christians?

kccody
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:48:00 PM
plabonte

The Muslim practice of niqab, or veiling, stems from a verse of the Qu'ran, the holy book of Islam, which some followers interpret as a mandate for women to cover their faces in the presence of unrelated men. Hope that answers your question.

sketcha
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:02:00 PM
"Actually, the vast majority if Native Americans whe adhere to the Peyote Cult are Christian. Does this mean the US Govt. is persacuting Christians?"

I guess so.

You know, I don't expect us to give them their land back, but you'd think we could throw 'em a bone now and then for God's sake. Again I ask, what's the harm?

Thanks for reminding me of the correct spelling of Peyote BTW.

Spiny Norman
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:07:00 PM
It is sad to think we still have government sponsored religous persacution in this country.
Spiny Norman
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:18:00 PM
All that being said, I still think she needs to have her picture taken without the veil. I also think that the Department of Moter Vehicles can arrange for it to be done privately and only in the presence of female officers/clercks.
sketcha
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:27:00 PM
What Spiny said! This whole thing is B.S.
tailgater
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:56:00 PM
They could use her MUG Shot for the photo.

Seems she was arrest a couple years ago, and it wasn't her first time.

She's a LOSER.

Sorry if that offends some, but her ugly face deserves to be behind Bars, not a Veil.

Spiny Norman
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:07:00 PM
From newsday.com.

During the hearing, Freeman conceded that she has had her face photographed without a veil since she started wearing one in 1997. She had a mug shot taken after her arrest in 1998 on a domestic battery charge involving one of twin 3-year-old sisters who were in her foster care. The children were removed from her home, according to records from the Decatur (Ill.) Police Services.

Child welfare workers told investigators in Decatur that Freeman and her husband

had used their concerns about religious modesty to hinder them from looking for bruises on the girls, according to the Decatur Police records.

They are no more muslim then Bin Ladin. Just more nuts who use religion to justify their own misdeeds.

usahog
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:32:00 PM
their about 30 minutes from my place?? LMAO!!!!! same place Jessy drop your Money hear and shut your face Jackson was a few years back trying to condone the fight at a highschool basketball game that he lost big time covering them boy's ass's!!!!!

I knew I knew this artical... it's kinda old tho!!!

Hog

tarheel4lyf
Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:35:00 PM
Rick:

"I don't think...."

"How dare you mock....."

Sounds like opinions to me.

sketcha
Friday, June 20, 2003 6:42:00 AM
"From newsday.com.

During the hearing, Freeman conceded that she has had her face photographed without a veil since she started wearing one in 1997. She had a mug shot taken after her arrest in 1998 on a domestic battery charge involving one of twin 3-year-old sisters who were in her foster care. The children were removed from her home, according to records from the Decatur (Ill.) Police Services.

Child welfare workers told investigators in Decatur that Freeman and her husband

had used their concerns about religious modesty to hinder them from looking for bruises on the girls, according to the Decatur Police records."

What a rotten BITCH! We need someone like THIS to call our democracy into question? Let the bitch walk! Don't even let her on public transportation.