cbc812
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 11:59:00 AM
Indeed. Take ID and evolution out of science.

Only Flying Spaghetti Monsterism should be taught in science class and all classes, for the FSM is our one and true creator.

How do I know? I just DO.

cbc812
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:00:00 PM
Indeed. Take intelligent design AND evolution out of science classes.

Only Flying Spaghetti Monsterism should be taught in science class and all classes, for the FSM is our one and true creator.

How do I know? I just DO.

robertknyc
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:20:00 PM
Ah, the truth comes out, you're just a religious bigot who is angry at God, if he in fact exists in your mind. I think you have me confused with someone else. Apparently my quiet belief that God made us irks you even though I have never lobbied a school board or preached in the subway as you put it. So, we see you for what you are. To say that some entity created us is FAR, FAR, from injecting personal religious beliefs into the educational system.

Yes, creation theory is not science in the normal sense of the word, and I for one never said it was (you seem too dense to realize that).

Your logic is so flawed that it's laughable and hardly worth my time. Saying that God is out there getting kicks by giving people cancer is about as logical as the proposition that the designers at Boeing enjoy seeing there planes crash when it's a result of a mechanical flaw (since THEY created the plane right?).

I don't know what school district you live in, but I'm not aware of the idea that creation is taught, when it is, as science, just as another explanation for how the world and us came about. Apparently you're too closed-minded and angry at God to want children exposed to this perfectly viable and widely accepted "theory" along with your THEORY of evolution.

Whatever, I don't care what you think either. I just wanted to point out for all to see how the creation deniers CANNOT explain, by their theory of evolution, how everything got here in the first place. That in and of itself for must of us leads us to conclude that there MUST be more to the story. I've demonstrated this quite well, with no refutation or explanation by you. Your only comeback to that question is, my beliefs shouln't be taught in school, a real logical and scientific argument. NOT! Checkmate

jpotts
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 1:08:00 PM
I have it on good authority that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is dead.

Nitsche killed him.

haon123
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 1:33:00 PM
224 - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What am I going to do with my full pirate regalia?
swimbladder
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 2:40:00 PM
I haven't kept up with the ID debate recently. What is this new "molecules-to-man evolution" theory? What are the necessary assumptions for it to hold true?
teelio
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 2:57:00 PM
I'm SO loving this thread. The new Dark Ages are upon us.
robertknyc
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:05:00 PM
Sounds a bit paranoid and alarmist, no matter what you're referring to.
cbc812
Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:22:00 AM
" Apparently my quiet belief that God made us irks you even though I have never lobbied a school board or preached in the subway as you put it."

Robert - for the last time - I DO NOT F***ING CARE WHAT THE F**K YOU BELIEVE. I don't care what anybody believes. If you believe that "God" created everything, then fine. These should be private beliefs. The reason that they've been thrust into the public arena is that there are those that wish to inject a biblical worldview into science education, where it has no place.

Again - I don't give a rat's ass what you believe or who you believe in. DO YOU UNDERSTAND???

robertknyc
Thursday, March 5, 2009 6:58:00 AM
For someone who doesn't care what I think, you seem pretty worked up about it! Me thinks you doth protest too much. Anyway, I'll hold you to that and hope you'll shut up about it.
cbc812
Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:03:00 AM
I get worked up about other peoples' religion in my childrens' science textbooks. If that is not something you support or wish to advance, then cool, and I apologize for my bellicosity.
jpotts
Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:07:00 AM
231. Author: cbc812 Date: 03/05/2009 12:03 PM Reply

I get worked up about other peoples’ religion in my childrens’ science textbooks. If that is not something you support or wish to advance, then cool, and I apologize for my bellicosity.

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You could always send your kids to private school.

teelio
Thursday, March 5, 2009 2:50:00 PM
I only get worked up over willful avoidance of critical thinking. I have many friends with whom I disagree but still have civil discussions.

But I won't argue with someone unreasonable, whose viewpoint is formed from emotion rather than fact, and either cherry picks--or makes up--facts. Shouting and name calling says a lot about the person doing so, and therefore compromises his views.

It's like wrestling with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

robertknyc
Thursday, March 5, 2009 4:54:00 PM
cbc, I was just having a debate about this topic and you went off on the school thing, totally unprompted by me. I appreciate your apology, so let's move on to more productive pursuits.